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  1. #11
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    This governor hates state LEO. But you keep voting for republicans ¡Jajajahajaja!

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    This governor hates state LEO. But you keep voting for republicans ¡Jajajahajaja!
    Maybe when it comes to pay. He wasn’t out there talking about defunding the police or trashing law enforcement as a whole unlike your favorite libtard’s.

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    This governor hates state LEO. But you keep voting for republicans ¡Jajajahajaja!
    STFU right there. Please tell me where would we be with the Democrats. Maybe riding a horse when they defund us. Look a Minneapolis, they are begging cops to come back now. Read the real news. Maybe a few years back I would have voted Democrat, but not after all these anticop attitude.

  4. #14
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    The biggest raises FHP has ever received have all been under Republican Governors....fact check that libtards.

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    Wrong....we got steps and 5% colas every year under Graham.

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    Wrong....we got steps and 5% colas every year under Graham.
    And who took the step plan away? Lawton Chiles, a Democrat.

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    And who took the step plan away? Lawton Chiles, a Democrat.
    Not this again. For over ten years on this page I have been trying to correct this widely-held misconception that somehow Governor Chiles "took away the step plan". This is simply not true. The step plan was abolished in 1992, while Chiles was Governor--that part is true. What is not true is that Chiles somehow "got rid of it."

    On December 24th, 1992 the Florida Supreme Court released its 4-3 decision in State v. Police Benevolent Association Inc. 613 So. 2d 415 (1992). The Justices voting in the majority were Grimes, Overton, McDonald, and Harding. That decision held that programs such as step plans were an unconstitutional infringement by the Legislature on future Legislative sessions. In sum, the Court held that a law which the 1988 Legislature
    enacted concerning annual and sick leave, and how that leave must be processed and accounted for, unconstitutionally bound future Legislative Sessions to uphold a legal obligation that they (the future Sessions) did not make. As a result, all programs that required future Legislative Sessions to do anything they did not vote on themselves were declared void---most notably, the Step Plan. As it stands now, even when a raise on pay is approved and signed into law, that raise is technically only binding for that Legislative year. The following year starting pay can be raised or lowered at the will of the legiature and either approval or veto by the Governor.

    In summary, The Florida Supreme Court, a completely separate branch of government from the Executive, was the entity that "did away with" the Step Plan. Barring a Constitutional Amendment or a future decision overturning State v. Police Benevolent Association, there is nothing any Governor or even the Legislature can do to re-establish the Step Plan for State employees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Not this again. For over ten years on this page I have been trying to correct this widely-held misconception that somehow Governor Chiles "took away the step plan". This is simply not true. The step plan was abolished in 1992, while Chiles was Governor--that part is true. What is not true is that Chiles somehow "got rid of it."

    On December 24th, 1992 the Florida Supreme Court released its 4-3 decision in State v. Police Benevolent Association Inc. 613 So. 2d 415 (1992). The Justices voting in the majority were Grimes, Overton, McDonald, and Harding. That decision held that programs such as step plans were an unconstitutional infringement by the Legislature on future Legislative sessions. In sum, the Court held that a law which the 1988 Legislature
    enacted concerning annual and sick leave, and how that leave must be processed and accounted for, unconstitutionally bound future Legislative Sessions to uphold a legal obligation that they (the future Sessions) did not make. As a result, all programs that required future Legislative Sessions to do anything they did not vote on themselves were declared void---most notably, the Step Plan. As it stands now, even when a raise on pay is approved and signed into law, that raise is technically only binding for that Legislative year. The following year starting pay can be raised or lowered at the will of the legiature and either approval or veto by the Governor.

    In summary, The Florida Supreme Court, a completely separate branch of government from the Executive, was the entity that "did away with" the Step Plan. Barring a Constitutional Amendment or a future decision overturning State v. Police Benevolent Association, there is nothing any Governor or even the Legislature can do to re-establish the Step Plan for State employees.
    Can you let us know what political party has dominated for over 25 years is the State of Florida? Then please explain the changes in these past 25 years which have helped state employees (law enforcement)?

    Yea, why change now it can only get better. As you can see from the person who alway brings up Chile's. Change is to difficult for people like this. Vote Republican

  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    STFU right there. Please tell me where would we be with the Democrats. Maybe riding a horse when they defund us. Look a Minneapolis, they are begging cops to come back now. Read the real news. Maybe a few years back I would have voted Democrat, but not after all these anticop attitude.
    Lol..Did we forget the THUGS that stormed the Capital???? Anticop? Didnt those THUGS murder a fellow brother?
    I dont think Minneapolis is begging anybody to come back

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    Lol..Did we forget the THUGS that stormed the Capital???? Anticop? Didnt those THUGS murder a fellow brother?
    I dont think Minneapolis is begging anybody to come back
    Ok antifa. Just like your girl pelosi said. The enemy is within us.

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