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Also letting Detention people cross over without making them wait years. We’ve lost good Detention Deputies to TPD because they were forcing them to stay in the jail.

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With Baby Boomers retiring, this situation will only get worse. Not everyone wants to stop working entirely, or go to CE.

One answer would be to recruit well-respected, recently retired Deputies with a wealth of good experience to teach these classes. This would spread good knowledge and training, keep current Deputies on the road, and keep the costs of part time instructors low.

Yo Chad....look ^^^ a good idea that would NOT make you look like an idiot. Re hiring retired deputies would be an awesome idea....

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The money allocated for all of the empty positions can easily be re-directed toward doubling the training staff and doubling up academies for the next five years. We have several training locations at Falkenburg Road and at the HCSO Range. And at the range, several aspects of training can occur simultaneously: driving, building searches, cpr, firearms, physical fitness qualifications, Active Shooter, and role playing scenarios. There are several classrooms there as well. And, at Falkenburg Road, there are many classrooms and opportunities. While there are many reasons for the shortfall, arguing about them will not change things. The agency needs to look towards the future to develop a manner to fix this everlasting problem. Yes, it is a problem that even the Sheriff recognizes. The question is, who will develop a training schedule to accommodate several training academies simultaneously and analyze the training staff to accommodate such to make a presentation to the Sheriff. It sounds like an assignment that one or several should undertake.

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The reason why your staffing complaint gets ignored in all the threads is because of the false baselines. Ron Harrison’s death had nothing to do with staffing, call volume, available units, or anything other than an asshole who wanted to kill a cop. Ron just finished his shift and stopped at a convenience store near his home. The dbag, who was ranting and raving to his friends all day about cops, followed him out, pulled up next to him at a red light and began shooting Ron. Ron was not murdered because he was sent to a call short handed. Ron was not murdered because he was on a traffic stop without available back up. Ron was murdered without provocation. Ron was ambushed by a piece of shit. If you want to effect change, use factual information. Don’t bend truths to fit your agenda.

You are the one who is wrong. We command no respect. There are not enough of us. People do not have any respect or fear for us. You can see this in just about every security camera footage or ring door bell videos. People just walk around with no gloves no masks and not even try to hide while breaking into cars through many neighborhoods as if we do not even exist. Because we don’t. We are too busy doing the MEO’s job working 6 hour natural death investigations and all the other cute crap out agency volunteered us to do for a fatter budget. We are never patrolling. We prevent no crime. We defer nothing. There is no security. We only come after the fact to type long stories about what happened and all the things we could not do. Add the fact that the mentally ill scum of society do not get locked up. Both these cop killers should have been long since buried in an asylum. Our weak government, weak leaders, and lack of command presence for those deputies killed. There are not enough of us out here and there is NO command presence.

If you don’t believe me, speak to any senior ILP or fusion detective or even analyst. How many criminals come to this county to commit crimes because their fear their own county LEO and court systems?? Even Miami Dade warned the HCSO that their known criminals were coming here do commit crimes because of the same reason. These killers should have long since been dealt with.

There are not enough of us or policing or a police presence in a unincorporated city where these deputies were killed with a absolutely huge population with crazy people and scum criminals moving there from all over the country. A city that should have its own police because it’s so big and having it “protected” by one half assed sheriff squad is not going to cut it. That’s is why these criminals do not respect us.

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In all fairness, Brian’s murder wasn’t the result of staffing either. It was either a mental health issue, substance abuse, or a combination of the two. Agreeably, we are short handed, have been for years and years, in fact, decades and decades. In my opinion, having adequate manpower in patrol would allow deputies to be proactive instead of reactive. Working patrol can really be an enjoyable assignment if the agency ever fills the hundreds of vacant positions.

You are correct. This state and county failed Brian and Sgt Harrison. For leaving these crazy people to roam free and by dumping the problem on the police. Even worse, our leaders allow it and even volunteer to take on the problem.

We should be scaring these people out of our county.

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Because HCSO lacks the adequate training staff to do it in any reasonable timeframe. A significant change is needed. Minimally increasing class size or merely adding an additional academy per year has not made a noticeable difference as of yet. Sheriff Chronister has made an attempt but I hope he realizes, with attrition, it is not netting much gain. Doubling the training staff will either pull additional manpower from the street, or would require hiring manpower specifically for that reason. I would prefer the latter.

Because this agency does not care. Look how fast they implemented body cameras. Because it benefited them! Look how fast the RNC field force and deployment was put together. Because it involved if money coming our way.

When this agency wants to do something, IT DOES IT! Staffing patrol is a low priority because it means more money for toys, divisions, departments, brass positions, and fluff.

THIS AGENCY IS ALMOST 200 YEARS OLD!!!!!! We have been hearing how so many were due to retire and a big wave of people leaving was coming. This was 10 years ago. How did they not prepare?? No excuse! None!

It’s not because of training or recruitment. Not at all. It’s because keeping patrol short is cheap. In the end, who cares right? The worse part is not just us getting hurt or killed. What about the many that have burned out and quit???

Pull you head out of your brown nosing asses!

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I was not attacking the poster I quoted. I was adding on to it.

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Also letting Detention people cross over without making them wait years. We’ve lost good Detention Deputies to TPD because they were forcing them to stay in the jail.

Yes!!! This is a common issue! Back when I started, we would get jail transfers constantly. It also kept the jail full of applicants because they applied to work the jail for the main reason to transfer to patrol. They took that away. Even if they do pull a few from the jail. It’s nothing like it used to be.

This agency has slowly destroyed all the goals and possible career paths many used to follow.

Now, unless you are connected, you stay on the POD or on patrol.

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I was told 20 years ago by a district captain, “you won’t get fully staffed in patrol, because y’all do a good enough job with what you have.”
That’s the illogic that HCSO operates by. The problem nowadays is, we can’t do a good job, because of the fluff involved in the most basic call for service. It eats up hundreds of manhours for nothing and prevents us from proactive patrol time. Therefore, NO ONE fears us, because we don’t have time to or the support to “hunt” for these douch$$$ and put them in jail.

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Why can’t they fill up patrol?

Because we're arresting Deputies for doing their jobs (Janak)!