Bailiff Deputy?

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How do you become a bailiff deputy for HCSO? Do they rotate patrol or is it a separate position?

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How do you become a bailiff deputy for HCSO? Do they rotate patrol or is it a separate position?

You might have to wait awhile on an answer. The Dwight K. Shrute's of this agency are more concerned with asking Toby their middle school sex ed questions.

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How do you become a bailiff deputy for HCSO? Do they rotate patrol or is it a separate position?

The answer has a few layers to it.

Number 1. Forget detention and patrol as part of one team. Not at this agency. They may as well be two different agencies. It used to be a team. You used to could go to the detention academy, go work in the jail a few years, take the cross over academy in the mean time which bridged your detention into a dual certification of detention and LEO, transfer to patrol, do the module, and you were set. That was back when the agency was a team and you could actually set your goals, plan your path, and implement it. Goals were actually reasonable obtainable. Now, you have to apply as a new employee for a jail to patrol position change and start all over from the beginning to go from the jail to patrol. The long application process and academy all over again. Over a year long process if not two years. If you work the jail and want patrol, you may as well apply to TPD. The jail is short handed and they don’t want to let you go. Plus this agency looks down on detention deputies. That position carries a bad stigma. Again, not a team here. TPD gives you a fairer shot. If you don’t already work the jail, cut out all the reapplication joke of a mess and just go to TPD directly. You will obtain goals, transfer, promote and ever retire in 2 thirds the time. With better pay and a better retirement.

Number 2. Bailiff is under detention. Forget patrol if you want bailiff. One or the other. Again, not a team.

Number 3. Like everywhere else at this agency the bottom of the barrel, the most miserable positions are POD deputies and patrol deputies. The jail guys know this well. In the POD with 72 inmates ALONE for 12 hours and in danger of getting jumped at all times because it’s CHEAP. 1 deputy to 72 inmates? Genius. At what cost? Our mental health? Who cares. while, Literally, everyone else are working in offices far away from inmates. This means that EVERY POD deputy is clawing to get out of that stinking claustrophobic hell of the jail to become bailiffs. Bailiff positions are extremely competitive and nearly impossible to get here at this agency. The jail is by far no where near as political as patrol, but everyone wants out of the pod. And everyone wants out of the jail. Plan on working the pod for a decade or more before getting the bailiff position if ever. And you better have a flawless record during, including your sick time. It comes down to filling one bailiff position at a time and ruling out hundreds of applicants that even your sick time usage and maybe even your old academy grades may come in to play.

Number 4. There are LEO deputies assigned to the court but they are not bailiffs. They are security. You can forget that position also. You would have to hump a zone working at 300% capacity on short handed squads for at least a decade, claw for constant recognition, seek none stop approval with all the hoop jumping, ass kiss, brown nosing, and if you don’t burn out and if you are politically connected, you may just get that position. If you have any self respect what so ever, it’s not worth it. Especially if you have kids. No self respecting father will be anyone’s bittch.

My advice? Forget being a bailiff, forget detention, forget being a deputy, and look elsewhere. Where goals are actually attainable at a reasonable pace. If you must get the cop bug out of your system, go to college, get a real degree that is NOT criminal justice, or finish college. Go to TPD. Once you see that being a cop means being societies and the government’s disposable liability meat shields, fall guys, and hated, and the fact that their are no right decisions, you can take your degree and move on to a real career where your skills have value. Master at this agency literally means nothing.

No we do not rotate jail and patrol or start in the jail before patrol. Intelligently run agencies do that. Not here. Too much pride. Too much politics. Detention deputies make great patrol deputies yet you rarely see them transferred like they used to. Used to be the jail got many applicants because they wanted to eventually go to patrol. Now, it’s nearly impossible and convoluted, so applicants have to want to be detention deputies and detention deputies only. So, you guessed it, not many applicants for detention and now the jail is critically dangerously short handed. Just see what happens when you call for help from in the POD? Back up literally have to run from every corner of the jail. When they get to you eventually they are wore out and out of breath. This agency has very poor safety systems and systems to compensate for short staff. For detention and patrol. At least back in the day inmates and deputies were separated by bars. Long ago a moron colonel changed all that to where now you literally sit in the middle of 72 inmates in a large barracks with no cells no bars and no protection. For all the inmates to look at and plot against you. That decision was political and cost saving and in the end who did it affect? The POD deputies. Who cares right? Its not worth it just to be a bailiff.

Talk to your friends and families about their career time lines. Look at their progress advancement and promotional time lines, given that they were not politically connected. Then compare those time lines to people you know at this agency. It will tell you a lot.

Most everyone I know in their non LEO fields were noticed, approached, advanced, promoted, or transferred because their hard work was noticed. They were approached and their goals were inquired upon. Their progress was steady and obtainable. Not here.

Bailiff? Come up with something more realistic. If you truly want to go down the rocky road and cut throat competition process to get that position, by the time you get there, if you do, you will have been put through so much bureaucratic garbage that you won’t enjoy it. You would have mentally checked out long ago.

This is advice from someone who is of zero value at this agency but has been watching and remembering for a very long time. Working the POD is an absolute mind fukc. Designed ONLY to save money. Completely no way to sustain a 30 year career at that constant level of mental alertness. Do they care? No. Will it change? nope.


Sorry for the long answer, but post like this can help people on this site in the future. This is also more of a general info post. A bad career move can literally ruin your life.

Many will post after me to undermine and discredit my post. Its a PR damage control move. A basic one at that. Its normal and to be expected. Choose wisely. You can call recruitment and get the fake answer. “Just work in the jail 2 years and you can just transfer to patrol or bailiff or wherever!” Yeah right. Or you can refer to this post for a real answer to your question and make an informed decision. Good luck OP.


For all you guys lurking wanting to be a K9 deputy or pilot? Hahahaha, refer to the above. Just replace the word bailiff with what ever position is in your hopes and dreams and ignore the detention portions. You will have your answer. Even if you did get those cool positions, we are so short handed that nowhere is enjoyable to work anymore.

UNLESS...... WAIT FOR IT.... You are politically connected and being fast tracked for whatever reason. The son of a chief deputy, sexual orientation, particular race, friends with the sheriff, screwing brass, or whatever. If that’s the case, anything goes, and you will have a great career. You also would not be asking questions in this site so I know this last paragraph does not apply to any of you reading this. Your on the bottom of the pit.

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Not a Law Enforcement position, apply for Detention Deputy, then after 7-10years working in the jail you may have a shot as a Bailiff

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The answer has a few layers to it.

Number 1. Forget detention and patrol as part of one team. Not at this agency. They may as well be two different agencies. It used to be a team. You used to could go to the detention academy, go work in the jail a few years, take the cross over academy in the mean time which bridged your detention into a dual certification of detention and LEO, transfer to patrol, do the module, and you were set. That was back when the agency was a team and you could actually set your goals, plan your path, and implement it. Goals were actually reasonable obtainable. Now, you have to apply as a new employee for a jail to patrol position change and start all over from the beginning to go from the jail to patrol. The long application process and academy all over again. Over a year long process if not two years. If you work the jail and want patrol, you may as well apply to TPD. The jail is short handed and they don’t want to let you go. Plus this agency looks down on detention deputies. That position carries a bad stigma. Again, not a team here. TPD gives you a fairer shot. If you don’t already work the jail, cut out all the reapplication joke of a mess and just go to TPD directly. You will obtain goals, transfer, promote and ever retire in 2 thirds the time. With better pay and a better retirement.

Number 2. Bailiff is under detention. Forget patrol if you want bailiff. One or the other. Again, not a team.

Number 3. Like everywhere else at this agency the bottom of the barrel, the most miserable positions are POD deputies and patrol deputies. The jail guys know this well. In the POD with 72 inmates ALONE for 12 hours and in danger of getting jumped at all times because it’s CHEAP. 1 deputy to 72 inmates? Genius. At what cost? Our mental health? Who cares. while, Literally, everyone else are working in offices far away from inmates. This means that EVERY POD deputy is clawing to get out of that stinking claustrophobic hell of the jail to become bailiffs. Bailiff positions are extremely competitive and nearly impossible to get here at this agency. The jail is by far no where near as political as patrol, but everyone wants out of the pod. And everyone wants out of the jail. Plan on working the pod for a decade or more before getting the bailiff position if ever. And you better have a flawless record during, including your sick time. It comes down to filling one bailiff position at a time and ruling out hundreds of applicants that even your sick time usage and maybe even your old academy grades may come in to play.

Number 4. There are LEO deputies assigned to the court but they are not bailiffs. They are security. You can forget that position also. You would have to hump a zone working at 300% capacity on short handed squads for at least a decade, claw for constant recognition, seek none stop approval with all the hoop jumping, ass kiss, brown nosing, and if you don’t burn out and if you are politically connected, you may just get that position. If you have any self respect what so ever, it’s not worth it. Especially if you have kids. No self respecting father will be anyone’s bittch.

My advice? Forget being a bailiff, forget detention, forget being a deputy, and look elsewhere. Where goals are actually attainable at a reasonable pace. If you must get the cop bug out of your system, go to college, get a real degree that is NOT criminal justice, or finish college. Go to TPD. Once you see that being a cop means being societies and the government’s disposable liability meat shields, fall guys, and hated, and the fact that their are no right decisions, you can take your degree and move on to a real career where your skills have value. Master at this agency literally means nothing.

No we do not rotate jail and patrol or start in the jail before patrol. Intelligently run agencies do that. Not here. Too much pride. Too much politics. Detention deputies make great patrol deputies yet you rarely see them transferred like they used to. Used to be the jail got many applicants because they wanted to eventually go to patrol. Now, it’s nearly impossible and convoluted, so applicants have to want to be detention deputies and detention deputies only. So, you guessed it, not many applicants for detention and now the jail is critically dangerously short handed. Just see what happens when you call for help from in the POD? Back up literally have to run from every corner of the jail. When they get to you eventually they are wore out and out of breath. This agency has very poor safety systems and systems to compensate for short staff. For detention and patrol. At least back in the day inmates and deputies were separated by bars. Long ago a moron colonel changed all that to where now you literally sit in the middle of 72 inmates in a large barracks with no cells no bars and no protection. For all the inmates to look at and plot against you. That decision was political and cost saving and in the end who did it affect? The POD deputies. Who cares right? Its not worth it just to be a bailiff.

Talk to your friends and families about their career time lines. Look at their progress advancement and promotional time lines, given that they were not politically connected. Then compare those time lines to people you know at this agency. It will tell you a lot.

Most everyone I know in their non LEO fields were noticed, approached, advanced, promoted, or transferred because their hard work was noticed. They were approached and their goals were inquired upon. Their progress was steady and obtainable. Not here.

Bailiff? Come up with something more realistic. If you truly want to go down the rocky road and cut throat competition process to get that position, by the time you get there, if you do, you will have been put through so much bureaucratic garbage that you won’t enjoy it. You would have mentally checked out long ago.

This is advice from someone who is of zero value at this agency but has been watching and remembering for a very long time. Working the POD is an absolute mind fukc. Designed ONLY to save money. Completely no way to sustain a 30 year career at that constant level of mental alertness. Do they care? No. Will it change? nope.


Sorry for the long answer, but post like this can help people on this site in the future. This is also more of a general info post. A bad career move can literally ruin your life.

Many will post after me to undermine and discredit my post. Its a PR damage control move. A basic one at that. Its normal and to be expected. Choose wisely. You can call recruitment and get the fake answer. “Just work in the jail 2 years and you can just transfer to patrol or bailiff or wherever!” Yeah right. Or you can refer to this post for a real answer to your question and make an informed decision. Good luck OP.


For all you guys lurking wanting to be a K9 deputy or pilot? Hahahaha, refer to the above. Just replace the word bailiff with what ever position is in your hopes and dreams and ignore the detention portions. You will have your answer. Even if you did get those cool positions, we are so short handed that nowhere is enjoyable to work anymore.

UNLESS...... WAIT FOR IT.... You are politically connected and being fast tracked for whatever reason. The son of a chief deputy, sexual orientation, particular race, friends with the sheriff, screwing brass, or whatever. If that’s the case, anything goes, and you will have a great career. You also would not be asking questions in this site so I know this last paragraph does not apply to any of you reading this. Your on the bottom of the pit.

No undermining needed. This person lost me at "used to could".

Don't listen to this fool, he undermines himself at every turn because he's his own worst enemy.

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Very accurate actually. Now, pile on with the english lessons.

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No undermining needed. This person lost me at "used to could".

Don't listen to this fool, he undermines himself at every turn because he's his own worst enemy.

I use usetacould all the dang time ya uppity twat!
The other post is right in the money.

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The answer has a few layers to it.

Number 1. Forget detention and patrol as part of one team. Not at this agency. They may as well be two different agencies. It used to be a team. You used to could go to the detention academy, go work in the jail a few years, take the cross over academy in the mean time which bridged your detention into a dual certification of detention and LEO, transfer to patrol, do the module, and you were set. That was back when the agency was a team and you could actually set your goals, plan your path, and implement it. Goals were actually reasonable obtainable. Now, you have to apply as a new employee for a jail to patrol position change and start all over from the beginning to go from the jail to patrol. The long application process and academy all over again. Over a year long process if not two years. If you work the jail and want patrol, you may as well apply to TPD. The jail is short handed and they don’t want to let you go. Plus this agency looks down on detention deputies. That position carries a bad stigma. Again, not a team here. TPD gives you a fairer shot. If you don’t already work the jail, cut out all the reapplication joke of a mess and just go to TPD directly. You will obtain goals, transfer, promote and ever retire in 2 thirds the time. With better pay and a better retirement.

Number 2. Bailiff is under detention. Forget patrol if you want bailiff. One or the other. Again, not a team.

Number 3. Like everywhere else at this agency the bottom of the barrel, the most miserable positions are POD deputies and patrol deputies. The jail guys know this well. In the POD with 72 inmates ALONE for 12 hours and in danger of getting jumped at all times because it’s CHEAP. 1 deputy to 72 inmates? Genius. At what cost? Our mental health? Who cares. while, Literally, everyone else are working in offices far away from inmates. This means that EVERY POD deputy is clawing to get out of that stinking claustrophobic hell of the jail to become bailiffs. Bailiff positions are extremely competitive and nearly impossible to get here at this agency. The jail is by far no where near as political as patrol, but everyone wants out of the pod. And everyone wants out of the jail. Plan on working the pod for a decade or more before getting the bailiff position if ever. And you better have a flawless record during, including your sick time. It comes down to filling one bailiff position at a time and ruling out hundreds of applicants that even your sick time usage and maybe even your old academy grades may come in to play.

Number 4. There are LEO deputies assigned to the court but they are not bailiffs. They are security. You can forget that position also. You would have to hump a zone working at 300% capacity on short handed squads for at least a decade, claw for constant recognition, seek none stop approval with all the hoop jumping, ass kiss, brown nosing, and if you don’t burn out and if you are politically connected, you may just get that position. If you have any self respect what so ever, it’s not worth it. Especially if you have kids. No self respecting father will be anyone’s bittch.

My advice? Forget being a bailiff, forget detention, forget being a deputy, and look elsewhere. Where goals are actually attainable at a reasonable pace. If you must get the cop bug out of your system, go to college, get a real degree that is NOT criminal justice, or finish college. Go to TPD. Once you see that being a cop means being societies and the government’s disposable liability meat shields, fall guys, and hated, and the fact that their are no right decisions, you can take your degree and move on to a real career where your skills have value. Master at this agency literally means nothing.

No we do not rotate jail and patrol or start in the jail before patrol. Intelligently run agencies do that. Not here. Too much pride. Too much politics. Detention deputies make great patrol deputies yet you rarely see them transferred like they used to. Used to be the jail got many applicants because they wanted to eventually go to patrol. Now, it’s nearly impossible and convoluted, so applicants have to want to be detention deputies and detention deputies only. So, you guessed it, not many applicants for detention and now the jail is critically dangerously short handed. Just see what happens when you call for help from in the POD? Back up literally have to run from every corner of the jail. When they get to you eventually they are wore out and out of breath. This agency has very poor safety systems and systems to compensate for short staff. For detention and patrol. At least back in the day inmates and deputies were separated by bars. Long ago a moron colonel changed all that to where now you literally sit in the middle of 72 inmates in a large barracks with no cells no bars and no protection. For all the inmates to look at and plot against you. That decision was political and cost saving and in the end who did it affect? The POD deputies. Who cares right? Its not worth it just to be a bailiff.

Talk to your friends and families about their career time lines. Look at their progress advancement and promotional time lines, given that they were not politically connected. Then compare those time lines to people you know at this agency. It will tell you a lot.

Most everyone I know in their non LEO fields were noticed, approached, advanced, promoted, or transferred because their hard work was noticed. They were approached and their goals were inquired upon. Their progress was steady and obtainable. Not here.

Bailiff? Come up with something more realistic. If you truly want to go down the rocky road and cut throat competition process to get that position, by the time you get there, if you do, you will have been put through so much bureaucratic garbage that you won’t enjoy it. You would have mentally checked out long ago.

This is advice from someone who is of zero value at this agency but has been watching and remembering for a very long time. Working the POD is an absolute mind fukc. Designed ONLY to save money. Completely no way to sustain a 30 year career at that constant level of mental alertness. Do they care? No. Will it change? nope.


Sorry for the long answer, but post like this can help people on this site in the future. This is also more of a general info post. A bad career move can literally ruin your life.

Many will post after me to undermine and discredit my post. Its a PR damage control move. A basic one at that. Its normal and to be expected. Choose wisely. You can call recruitment and get the fake answer. “Just work in the jail 2 years and you can just transfer to patrol or bailiff or wherever!” Yeah right. Or you can refer to this post for a real answer to your question and make an informed decision. Good luck OP.


For all you guys lurking wanting to be a K9 deputy or pilot? Hahahaha, refer to the above. Just replace the word bailiff with what ever position is in your hopes and dreams and ignore the detention portions. You will have your answer. Even if you did get those cool positions, we are so short handed that nowhere is enjoyable to work anymore.

UNLESS...... WAIT FOR IT.... You are politically connected and being fast tracked for whatever reason. The son of a chief deputy, sexual orientation, particular race, friends with the sheriff, screwing brass, or whatever. If that’s the case, anything goes, and you will have a great career. You also would not be asking questions in this site so I know this last paragraph does not apply to any of you reading this. Your on the bottom of the pit.

As someone who left the agency after several years because of just about everything you mentioned... you hit the nail on the head 100%.

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As someone who left the agency after several years because of just about everything you mentioned... you hit the nail on the head 100%.

Must suck to not get a retirement party when you RESIGN huh.
Get over it, but stay tuned.

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Retirement parties at the agency can be a very beneficial and rewarding event however they can also lead to hardship for both sides. Many, that are not interested, are forced to attend to fill a room. Undeserved praise and disingenuous congratulations are often made by attendees. And if an adequate number of attendees do not attend, it leaves the retiree disappointed. However, for those that want to be there it is a rewarding arena. Regardless, love or hate your career, the transition to retirement is quite a journey. Stay safe my friends and fight the good fight.