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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    A Florida sheriff can only do what he is funded for. If the school board is already being independently funded, then it is highly unlikely that county commissioners will fund school policing, just so an elected sheriff can "take over." The same goes for an independently funded municipal police department. A sheriff cannot "take control" of an independent police department.

    As examples, here are three independent tax sources:
    1. Miami-Dade County taxes
    2. School board taxes
    3. Municipal taxes

    In theory, the county commissioners may fund an elected sheriff to perform only civil service -- and that's all. All the other preexisting funded "departments" may continue to exist, completely independent of an elected sheriff. A sheriff may statutorily "take over" an isolated investigation, but he may not "take over" an entire department that is independently funded.

    Someone must decide exactly what the elected Miami-Dade sheriff will be in charge of -- and will be funded for:
    • Law enforcement division? (patrol, detectives, traffic, etc)
    • Courts/bailiffs?
    • Civil process?
    • Corrections?
    • School Resource Officers?
    • Civil process?
    • Other departments?
    So you're saying that a sheriff can't waltz in and statutorily take-over the command, control and budget of a city police department or a county corrections agency or whatever? Can a new sheriff forcibly take-over court security in Miami-Dade's 11th Judicial Circuit?

    https://jobs.jud11.flcourts.org/publ...postingid=8839

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    The sheriff should take over the schools. The school police either don’t answer their radios, do anything to get out of handling a school related call and are never around to handle their school related alarms.

  3. #13
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    Miami-dade police is not going to elect a sheriffs. It's going to be too much money. Let alone, take over school board.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    A Florida sheriff can only do what he is funded for. If the school board is already being independently funded, then it is highly unlikely that county commissioners will fund school policing, just so an elected sheriff can "take over." The same goes for an independently funded municipal police department. A sheriff cannot "take control" of an independent police department.

    As examples, here are three independent tax sources:
    1. Miami-Dade County taxes
    2. School board taxes
    3. Municipal taxes

    In theory, the county commissioners may fund an elected sheriff to perform only civil service -- and that's all. All the other preexisting funded "departments" may continue to exist, completely independent of an elected sheriff. A sheriff may statutorily "take over" an isolated investigation, but he may not "take over" an entire department that is independently funded.

    Someone must decide precisely what the elected Miami-Dade sheriff will be in charge of -- and will be funded for:
    • Law enforcement division? (patrol, detectives, traffic, etc.)
    • Courts/bailiffs?
    • Civil process?
    • Corrections?
    • School Resource Officers?
    • Civil process?
    • Other departments?

  4. #14
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    The county may want to do Many things but the state of Florida voters with is now part of the Florida constitution is we will have a sheriff.

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    What will the elected Miami-Dade sheriff be in charge of?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Miami-dade police is not going to elect a sheriffs. It's going to be too much money. Let alone, take over school board.
    A Constitutional mandate was passed by Florida's voters, which will force Miami-Dade County to elect a sheriff. His pay will be statutorily determined by the number of citizens residing in the county (his paycheck will be huge). The big question is: What will the elected Miami-Dade sheriff be in charge of?
    • Civil process?
    • Law enforcement division? (patrol, detectives, traffic, etc)
    • Corrections?
    • Courtroom security?
    • School-based police?
    • One of the above or a combination of the above? Which budgets will the newly elected sheriff be in charge of?

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    FSS 112.3142(1) As used in this section, the term “constitutional officers” includes the Governor, the Lieutenant Governor, the Attorney General, the Chief Financial Officer, the Commissioner of Agriculture, state attorneys, public defenders, "sheriffs," tax collectors, property appraisers, supervisors of elections, clerks of the circuit court, county commissioners, district school board members, and superintendents of schools.

    In Florida, all Sheriffs are governed by Florida Statute, Chapter 30 and incumbents' duties are codified and enumerated there in:

    As to what county departments the Sheriff might absorb, Corrections for sure, others under the current system, may require negotiations. Best advice for the newly elected Sheriff, let the county retain all others, even Fire.

    http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/...3EChapter%2030

    http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/...rks%20of%20the

  7. #17
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    The school districts independently fund school board police. Even if metro PD becomes a sheriff, they cannot take over school board police. Maybe they have a better chance of taking over corrections and Opa Locka PD. After all, the metro dade county will never become a sheriff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    A Constitutional mandate was passed by Florida's voters, which will force Miami-Dade County to elect a sheriff. His pay will be statutorily determined by the number of citizens residing in the county (his paycheck will be huge). The big question is: What will the elected Miami-Dade sheriff be in charge of?
    • Civil process?
    • Law enforcement division? (patrol, detectives, traffic, etc)
    • Corrections?
    • Courtroom security?
    • School-based police?
    • One of the above or a combination of the above? Which budgets will the newly elected sheriff be in charge of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    FSS 112.3142(1) As used in this section, the term “constitutional officers” includes the Governor, the Lieutenant Governor, the Attorney General, the Chief Financial Officer, the Commissioner of Agriculture, state attorneys, public defenders, "sheriffs," tax collectors, property appraisers, supervisors of elections, clerks of the circuit court, county commissioners, district school board members, and superintendents of schools.

    In Florida, all Sheriffs are governed by Florida Statute, Chapter 30 and incumbents' duties are codified and enumerated there in:

    As to what county departments the Sheriff might absorb, Corrections for sure, others under the current system, may require negotiations. Best advice for the newly elected Sheriff, let the county retain all others, even Fire.

    http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/...3EChapter%2030

    http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/...rks%20of%20the
    It can all be negotiated. For example, in Orange County (Florida), the country runs corrections and the Orange Sheriff runs the law enforcement division (patrol, detectives & traffic). The two departments (LE & corrections) are completely separate from each other. For Miami-Dade, none of these issues have been discussed, at least not publicly, but the 2024 election is approaching fast.

  9. #19
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    I would love to be separated from corrections. They hold us back every contract. If we were able to be our own contract we would do a lot better.

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