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    They have 2 chances to pass it and in today’s climate it’s very likely. It will change police work as we know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    They have 2 chances to pass it and in today’s climate, it’s very likely. It will change police work as we know it.
    Even if the Civilian Review Panel (CRP) becomes a reality, authorized with subpoena power, Miami Dade Deputy Sheriffs (DS) have nothing to fear. *Why you incredulously ask? * Elementary dear Watson, the CRP cannot preempt State Law, in this case, FSS 112.532, Law enforcement officers’ and correctional officers’ rights. *Also known as the Police Bill of Rights. *On this, the Florida Supreme Court was unanimous, in its 2017 D’Agastino v. City of Miami. *Below we have provided the link to D'Agastino, open it and read it. *But let us be pessimistic and assume the County Commission will say to the Florida Supreme Court, "[W]e don't care what you opined, we are doing what we think is politically convenient for our perpetuation in office. * When that happens and a DS is subpoenaed? *Accompanied by your lawyer, respond as commanded, and when before the CRP, state the following: *Under the advice of my attorney, I will not answer any of your questions. * *

    We doubt this travesty will come to pass, but just in case be prepared to invoke the Sixth. *Why the Sixth and not the Fifth? Again that is elementary, when one invokes the Fifth, inquisitors can mount a smearing campaign, alleging you must be guilty -- of something -- otherwise, why invoke the Fifth? *Depending on the case, the CRP, working with the State Attorney's Office, could have the case taken before the Grand Jury, wherein you will be asked again to render testimony. *Should you again invoke the Fifth, the Assistant State Attorney "guiding" the Grand Jury inquisition could then give you "use immunity," *meaning "it prevents the prosecution from using [your] statements (“use”) or any evidence derived from those statements (“derivative use”) against [you] in a criminal prosecution. *Should you still seek protection under the Fifth Amendment, you will be held in contempt of Grand Jury and be confined in jail for the duration of the Grand Jury's term, usually 12 to 18 months. *This tactic is often employed by US Attorneys against organized crime figures. *Best to invoke the Sixth! *

    Again, if you have 25 or more years . . . RESIGN NOW! *Our vocation is dead, murdered by a degenerate, nihilistic population, cowardly elected and appointed officials, and a complicit media.

    https://law.justia.com/cases/florida.../sc16-645.html

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    Game over folks, cops lose!

    The commissioners will have million$ in police funds to give away to their friends and family to investigate the police. Individuals with absolutely no law enforcement experience will arm-chair quarterback police officer’s split-second decisions, and they’ll have all the time and money in the world to do it. They’ll have unlimited resources to slay any county employee for the slightest infraction. They’ll basically be “PCB with Attitude” and the police will be the preferred whipping boy.

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    Absolutely! It’s also a way to give vocal anti-cops, who are most likely on government subsidizes, a government Salary to criticize the actions, or inactions, of police.
    Thanks for nothing PBA

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    So wait not only did sosa make that worthless pos a major she voted for the panel. Shes destroying us from every angle

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    So wait not only did sosa make that worthless pos a major she voted for the panel. Shes destroying us from every angle
    Sosa has always been two faced. She a slimy illiterate worm.

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    Yes, but will Sosa be remembered as the Hispanic Female County Commissioner, and Senator Marco Rubio's godmother, who voted to defund the County Sheriff's Office by the sum of $800,000, perhaps more, to fund the civilian review panel (crp)? I think not! Neither is Carlos Gimenez, particularly now as a candidate for Florida's 26th Congressional District. He is vetoing it!

    Folks all over America are watching as our Nation's major cities, all governed by liberal-SOFT 0N CRIME-democrats are awash in violent crimes and murders, mostly perpetrated by the same people, crp proponents want to protect from the police. Laughable! If only commissioner Jordan would invest half the energy in exhorting Gimenez to put more police officers in her crime-ridden areas, charge with the mission of enforcing applicable Florida Statutes in -- as we mostly do -- objectively, fewer innocent children would be killed by warring drug dealers battling for supremacy. That is the inner city's reality and no crp can change it.

    Whether politicos and appointed command officers want to admitted or not, in Dade County, you -- the men and women of MDPD -- are the only line of defense standing against those committed to the destruction of our social fabric as we have known it. Are we perfect, no, then again, who is? I believe the sworn and civilians men and women laboring within the Professional Compliance Bureau are dedicated to ensuring that subject and witness officers are granted their Due Process, as guaranteed by FSS 112.532. This internal investigative model has served Dade County citizens well since the E. Wilson Purdy came to office in 1967, and over the decades it has improved significantly. One example, the Early Identification System. Advice, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. MDPD's internal investigative process is not broken, and as an example, neither was the Department's Homicide Shooting Team. Which begs the question, is FDLE doing a better and more expedient job?

    You may have dodged a bullet, this time, but should Penelas be elected strong mayor, or worse Levine Cava, I fear he or she will yield to Jordan and other crp proponents. Then there is the November 3, ballot proposal, if the PBA and members do not put on a vigorous effort, it may pass. Sadly, the present and perhaps the future are inauspicious times to be a Deputy Sheriff or Police Officers. By the way, don't count on the elected Sheriff, that person will be a political creature, whose only mission in life will be to get elected and reelected. Why each time I post I conclude with this comment:

    If you have 25 or more years, RESIGN NOW!

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    Steadman dropped the ball on this one big time. Sure he screwed up other things regularly but this item he must have been bought somehow.
    He didn’t even put up a phony fight. What a POS he is.

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    Where was PLEA on this? Why didn’t they do or say anything about this? Protectors of law enforcement my ass!!!!! More like chickens! At least PBA sent a BS letter!!!!!

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    Where was PLEA on this? Why didn’t they do or say anything about this? Protectors of law enforcement my ass!!!!! More like chickens! At least PBA sent a BS letter!!!!!
    Neither the PBAor PLEA could do anything about Jordan's CRP legislation. Jordan had the eight votes to pass it, and be glad there were eight and not nine making the passing Veto Proof. At least Gimenez has said he will veto it. What mayor and commissioners would vote to neuter and defund the police. Only SOFT ON CRIME liberal democrats.

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