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    Scott Israel, failed the test, and people died.

    During the 2012 campaign, so many people who knew Scott, where trying desperately to convince people like me that Scott Israel would be in way over his head as sheriff. Now we find out that his own father knew he wasn’t capable of running the sheriff’s office. In January of 2017, Scott Israel failed miserably at the airport shooting. I had a front row seat to the entire command staff, and their inability to establish any command and control. They literally were lost in all the confusion from taking any control of the incident. Two years later, Capt. Rosende (airport Capt) said, “if there was a similar shooting today, the result would be even worse.” He went onto say, “there have been no changes or improvements in our response to a critical incident.” So, should we have been surprised when there was an epic failure by Scott Israel and his command staff at MSD?

    Scott Israel, tested, failed, people died. Is this the man you want back as the leader of BSO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistereditinforaugust View Post
    During the 2012 campaign, so many people who knew Scott, where trying desperately to convince people like me that Scott Israel would be in way over his head as sheriff. Now we find out that his own father knew he wasn’t capable of running the sheriff’s office. In January of 2017, Scott Israel failed miserably at the airport shooting. I had a front row seat to the entire command staff, and their inability to establish any command and control. They literally were lost in all the confusion from taking any control of the incident. Two years later, Capt. Rosende (airport Capt) said, “if there was a similar shooting today, the result would be even worse.” He went onto say, “there have been no changes or improvements in our response to a critical incident.” So, should we have been surprised when there was an epic failure by Scott Israel and his command staff at MSD?

    Scott Israel, tested, failed, people died. Is this the man you want back as the leader of BSO?
    But it’s not his fault. He’s the victim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistereditinforaugust View Post
    During the 2012 campaign, so many people who knew Scott, where trying desperately to convince people like me that Scott Israel would be in way over his head as sheriff. Now we find out that his own father knew he wasn’t capable of running the sheriff’s office. In January of 2017, Scott Israel failed miserably at the airport shooting. I had a front row seat to the entire command staff, and their inability to establish any command and control. They literally were lost in all the confusion from taking any control of the incident. Two years later, Capt. Rosende (airport Capt) said, “if there was a similar shooting today, the result would be even worse.” He went onto say, “there have been no changes or improvements in our response to a critical incident.” So, should we have been surprised when there was an epic failure by Scott Israel and his command staff at MSD?

    Scott Israel, tested, failed, people died. Is this the man you want back as the leader of BSO?
    This is such a crock.

    Yes, Israel was an incompetent. He had been one for years. But, neither he NOR the BSO was responsible for the problems at FLL. In case people are unaware, the BSO does not run the airport. The BSO is essentially the security, fire and rescue force there. At FLL, an airline released a firearm and ammunition to an arriving passenger INSIDE the terminal without ever notifying either the BSO or the Broward County Aviation Department. All the deaths occurred at FLL before the BSO had any idea that any threat existed.

    The deaths at MSDHS were also not the fault of Israel or the BSO. Over half the casualties at MSDHS occurred before Dep. Peterson arrived at Bldg 12. And, after several investigations, no evidence exists that any lives would have been saved had Peterson immediately entered the bldg, upon his arrival. But, the BSO was not responsible foe the casualties which occurred that sat, either. In the case of MSDHS, the BCSB had failed to secure the campus to prevent an armed intruder from entering the campus. Further, Cruz was spotted by three school employee, functioning as security and having radios with which to contact the school office, as he walked across campus with an easily recognizable rifle case. None if these employees notified the office or the SRO.

    In other words, neither Israel nor the BSO was responsible for the casualties at MSDHS or FLL. He is not qualified to run an agency having 6000 employees, a $1 Billion budget and three very different missions. But, then, neither are any of the other candidates for the Office of Sheriff. Have fun choosing the next Sheriff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    This is such a crock.

    Yes, Israel was an incompetent. He had been one-off o o for years. But, neither he NOR the BSO was responsible for the problems at FLL. In case people are unaware, the BSO does not run the airport. The BSO is essentially the security, fire and rescue force there. At FLL, an airline released a firearm and ammunition to an arriving passenger INSIDE the terminal without ever notifying either the BSO or the Broward County Aviation Department. All the deaths occurred at FLL before the BSO had any idea that any threat existed.

    The deaths at MSDHS were also not the fault of Israel or the BSO. Over half the casualties at MSDHS occurred before Dep. Peterson arrived at Bldg 12. And, after several investigations, no evidence exists that any lives would have been saved had Peterson immediately entered the bldg, upon his arrival. But, the BSO was not responsible foe the casualties which occurred that sat, either. In the case of MSDHS, the BCSB had failed to secure the campus to prevent an armed intruder from entering the campus. Further, Cruz was spotted by three school employee, functioning as security and having radios with which to contact the school office, as he walked across campus with an easily recognizable rifle case. None if these employees notified the office or the SRO.

    In other words, neither Israel nor the BSO was responsible for the casualties at MSDHS or FLL. He is not qualified to run an agency having 6000 employees, a $1 Billion budget and three very different missions. But, then, neither are any of the other candidates for the Office of Sheriff. Have fun choosing the next Sheriff.
    But who created the culture of incompetence and cowardice by the placement of unqualified and incompetent commanders? Who bumped up total failures to the rank of Captain and above? Admit it or not that would be Scott Israel.

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    I’ll add to this

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    But who created the culture of incompetence and cowardice by the placement of unqualified and incompetent commanders? Who bumped up total failures to the rank of Captain and above? Admit it or not that would be Scott Israel.
    Let me add to this. Like always, the Israel flunkies have a difficult time with reading comprehension. That’s part of their incompetence. The original post clearly states, that the BSO command staff was lost and basically had no clue with the direct implication that they were completely lost in all the confusion. And, that was clearly evident at MSD as well.

    Here lies the problem. Why would anyone want these people back, especially Israel, when they cannot even acknowledge that they screwed-up. Israel will be 100 times worse if he returns.

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    Worst cops ever Team Scott

    Scott people died because of you and your dumb buddies, go away BSO doesn’t want you ever, we will walk off the job if you win dummy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    But who created the culture of incompetence and cowardice by the placement of unqualified and incompetent commanders? Who bumped up total failures to the rank of Captain and above? Admit it or not that would be Scott Israel.
    Just about every sheriff in modern history did the same thing.

    The problem with your argument is that nothing that the Sheriff's Office did or did not do led to either of the shooting incidents or materially contributed to the casualty count. Both incidents happened outside the control of the Sheriff and BSO and both were over with before any oif the command staff got involved.

    Look, Israel was incompetent. But so is the current sheriff. Both promoted people who failed to do a good job as senior administrators. None of the current candidates for the position are competent to lead the agency. So, you are free to vote for whomever you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregisteredandoson View Post
    Let me add to this. Like always, the Israel flunkies have a difficult time with reading comprehension. That’s part of their incompetence. The original post clearly states, that the BSO command staff was lost and basically had no clue with the direct implication that they were completely lost in all the confusion. And, that was clearly evident at MSD as well.

    Here lies the problem. Why would anyone want these people back, especially Israel, when they cannot even acknowledge that they screwed-up. Israel will be 100 times worse if he returns.
    Really? Exactly how did the command staff screw up at FLL oir MSDHS? I have seen the reports and investigations and still have not seen any serious missteps which can be laid at the feet of the command staff.

    At FLL, the shooting was over for an hour before something spooked passengers returning to the terminals and caused a stampede. Once the stampede started there was nothing the BSO could do to stop it, given the manpower available. The post shooting response at MSDHS was under the control of a deputy and a sergeant who no one knew was on the scene. The Parkland commander actually did the right thing when she ordered that a perimeter be established to attempt to foil the shooter's escape. Once on the scene, the fact that the surveillance system had been rewound, without the knowledge of the BSO, made it look as though the shooter was still in the building. There is also the fact that, until the situation is stabilized, the command staff is dealing with delayed and, sometimes, contradictory information. Look at the response to Pearl Harbor, the 9/11 attacks, mass shootings all over the country and point ou one which was handled smoothly by the command staff involved. You can not, because they all ivolve a response to a wholly unforeseen incident.

    People seem to have an erroneous idea as to what a command staff should do in such situations. Just as in the military, the command staff rarely responds to an active scene, unless it is absolutely necessary. The theory is that the on-scene commander is competent to handle the situation and the command staff would only get in the way, as well as being some distance away from the scene. The staff coordinates reinforcements and support units for the on-scene commander. But, the on-scene commander is expected to handle the situation.

    Few people want Israel back. Bit few people want to retain Toney. So, that is your choice. Have fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistereditinforaugust View Post
    During the 2012 campaign, so many people who knew Scott, where trying desperately to convince people like me that Scott Israel would be in way over his head as sheriff. Now we find out that his own father knew he wasn’t capable of running the sheriff’s office. In January of 2017, Scott Israel failed miserably at the airport shooting. I had a front row seat to the entire command staff, and their inability to establish any command and control. They literally were lost in all the confusion from taking any control of the incident. Two years later, Capt. Rosende (airport Capt) said, “if there was a similar shooting today, the result would be even worse.” He went onto say, “there have been no changes or improvements in our response to a critical incident.” So, should we have been surprised when there was an epic failure by Scott Israel and his command staff at MSD?

    Scott Israel, tested, failed, people died. Is this the man you want back as the leader of BSO?
    You must be one of the idiots who never did your homework and do nothing in your life. Only one who failed is you for spreading FAKE NEWS AGAIN.
    Get a life jerk off!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    You must be one of the idiots who never did your homework and do nothing in your life. Only one who failed is you for spreading FAKE NEWS AGAIN.
    Get a life jerk off!!
    Hahahahaha, I love the smell of desperation.

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