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    This thread is ridiculous.

    History reveals that attacking a candidate based on their past, especially as a black juvenile will backfire, and most likely propel the candidate. Let's remember, the former was accused of the same types of indiscretions, and the denial and complete abandonment of his own flesh and blood. If there's anything that would create pause, it would be that; and it didn't. A character attack on Tony will absolutely NOT prevent his election.
    The missing piece is the connection with the voter. Tony is perceived to be the candidate who is approachable. You won't be able to change what the media has hyped up by August. What needs to happen is for the rank and file to find a way to EDUCATE the public about the conflicts and dilemnas that deputies face in terms of politics. The VOTER needs to consider how first responders will, within seconds make a choice about action/inaction under the circumstances of what Tony is proposing and practicing. The voter has no idea of how the Tamarac incident has affected deputies. The defense of the action in Tamarac needed to come from a human angle rather than just a defense of policy.
    You are correct sir, Tony will be elected and Israel and his sycophants will be just a bad memory.

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    First, Tony is the most unapproachable Sheriff in the last twenty five years, second the public needs to know that deputies are now thinking about their family, jobs and pensions. That means hands off and it’s easier to write a report then be subjected to these new civilian review boards. This translates into higher crime in Broward County. Parkland you wanted him you’ve got him, now I have to think about the best interest for myself.
    Hear you, and this is an understandable and natural reaction. However, in doing so, it fuels and shapes the distorted public view into concluding: " We need Tony to whip this place into shape" mentality. Next, on the flip side, eventually it may be an administrative targeting of deputies who aren't making arrests. A shut down causes internal conflict and doesn't reflect well on anyone, but it's the voters perspective where the focus needs to be. Parkland has had Broward youth on bikes looting gated communities. The residents are frustrated and wondering where police are. This is an opportunity to explain how stopping a minority on a bike can put a deputy in a precarious position, and how being in this position can impact public safety over the long term. Parkland flipped out about what they perceived as "inaction" but they don't know what's behind it. If you feel so strongly that they had enough influence to secure Tony, then that is the place to start making your point. Again, instead of keeping the conversation on whether action/inaction was within policy, go straight to the real issue.

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    Hear you, and this is an understandable and natural reaction. However, in doing so, it fuels and shapes the distorted public view into concluding: " We need Tony to whip this place into shape" mentality. Next, on the flip side, eventually it may be an administrative targeting of deputies who aren't making arrests. A shut down causes internal conflict and doesn't reflect well on anyone, but it's the voters perspective where the focus needs to be. Parkland has had Broward youth on bikes looting gated communities. The residents are frustrated and wondering where police are. This is an opportunity to explain how stopping a minority on a bike can put a deputy in a precarious position, and how being in this position can impact public safety over the long term. Parkland flipped out about what they perceived as "inaction" but they don't know what's behind it. If you feel so strongly that they had enough influence to secure Tony, then that is the place to start making your point. Again, instead of keeping the conversation on whether action/inaction was within policy, go straight to the real issue.
    So what your saying this that Tony will install quotas, this is illegal. Second you want us to stop juveniles on bikes just because they don't look right? It is not illegal to be a minor riding a bike in Parkland even if you live in Coral Springs,(but hey CSPD is doing awesome over all the fights at their high school aren't they) if it is at night and they don't have a light it's just a civil citation. Do you want the deputies to start violating the rights of these youths? Will I for one will not because it is the deputy that gets sue, fired and arrested. So things will shut down and nothing can be done about it, sorry.

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    So what your saying this that Tony will install quotas, this is illegal. Second you want us to stop juveniles on bikes just because they don't look right? It is not illegal to be a minor riding a bike in Parkland even if you live in Coral Springs,(but hey CSPD is doing awesome over all the fights at their high school aren't they) if it is at night and they don't have a light it's just a civil citation. Do you want the deputies to start violating the rights of these youths? Will I for one will not because it is the deputy that gets sue, fired and arrested. So things will shut down and nothing can be done about it, sorry.
    Correct. There can't be formal "quotas" but arent there other indirect ways to make a point ,like undesireable transfers? As far as the bikes, when a bike rider and repeat offender is observed with what appears to be a pillowcase of burglary tools on the handlebars, there was a time when it was routine to take a closer look, where now that may be something a deputy hesitates to do for very good reason. The point was about the internal conflict that a deputy experiences in this climate and how to convey this as an issue for voters to consider.

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    Correct. There can't be formal "quotas" but arent there other indirect ways to make a point ,like undesireable transfers? As far as the bikes, when a bike rider and repeat offender is observed with what appears to be a pillowcase of burglary tools on the handlebars, there was a time when it was routine to take a closer look, where now that may be something a deputy hesitates to do for very good reason. The point was about the internal conflict that a deputy experiences in this climate and how to convey this as an issue for voters to consider.
    Well, if we were fully staffed you could transfer deputies, but every district is short so no command staff wants to lose any staff. There are also many deputies scheduled to retire including Sgt, Lt, and Captains. Lastly, when this new health scare starts to effect employees and they are required to stay home for two weeks things are going get bad because we are very understaffed. By the way BSO hasn’t started to prepare for this so it will get very dangerous out there. Property crimes are very low on the list so please start locking your car doors and quit leaving your keys in your cars.

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    Doesn’t the Union have an upcoming interview for Sheriff candidates? Would this be a good time to ask him questions about his alleged criminal history as well as his departure from Coral Springs PD? If he lies during the interview, and you have evidence that he is lying about his past I would say you have something.

    Tired of hearing of rumors about this guy, are they true or not????

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    The City of Coral Springs is a dump. CSPD needs to worry about policing their own city and stay out of BSO business. Springs is becoming a section 8 playground.

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    Doesn’t the Union have an upcoming interview for Sheriff candidates? Would this be a good time to ask him questions about his alleged criminal history as well as his departure from Coral Springs PD? If he lies during the interview, and you have evidence that he is lying about his past I would say you have something.

    Tired of hearing of rumors about this guy, are they true or not????
    Yes and you will hear about it all shortly

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    The City of Coral Springs is a dump. CSPD needs to worry about policing their own city and stay out of BSO business. Springs is becoming a section 8 playground.
    Agreed! Is why the anglos are selling their homes and moving north...tired of kids doing wheelies on their bicycles through the streets and parking lots, in groups of 6-10, with no regard... Twenty years ago, you didn't see this!

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    Yes and you will hear about it all shortly
    Will we hear about your weight problem and mumbles last shoplifting escapade?

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