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    Call it what you want

    The Sheriff’s Office needs a plain clothes unmarked vehicle unit with enough deputies to effectively address the on going murderous violence. It will be messy and unusual incident emails will be frequent. People will get hurt but eventually the violence will subside. So Sheriff, and Chip what are you willing to do? Haines needs to sit this one out as he only hunts deputy’s not criminals. Oops I’m sorry deputies who don’t do what he wants. MY you will be a CMDR as soon as you do TY.

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    Well, we used to have a street crimes unit. Wait....that got disbanded! We used to have a tac unit. Wait....that also went the way of the dinosaur. We used to have a helicopter. Yep....GONE. nice going thelbert! These would all have been excellent tools to combat the surge in violence we're seeing. Of course, you're not going to admit that we have an issue! Are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    The Sheriff’s Office needs a plain clothes unmarked vehicle unit with enough deputies to effectively address the on going murderous violence. It will be messy and unusual incident emails will be frequent. People will get hurt but eventually the violence will subside. So Sheriff, and Chip what are you willing to do? Haines needs to sit this one out as he only hunts deputy’s not criminals. Oops I’m sorry deputies who don’t do what he wants. MY you will be a CMDR as soon as you do TY.
    You can do that all you want but unless there’s an investigator to wrap up the case after the initial arrest many of them will bond out and never go back in. Get rid of the two in gun crimes and make two investigators assigned to the protective unit. It won’t be JP since most of the hours would be after 1600

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Well, we used to have a street crimes unit. Wait....that got disbanded! We used to have a tac unit. Wait....that also went the way of the dinosaur. We used to have a helicopter. Yep....GONE. nice going thelbert! These would all have been excellent tools to combat the surge in violence we're seeing. Of course, you're not going to admit that we have an issue! Are you?
    Nope. He will never admit there is a problem. One of the commissioners is going to stop his spending until they meet and discuss the shootings/drug/gang problem. Morgan doesn’t like anyone questioning his motives or authority. Morgan blames the commissioners and he also blames the public. Morgan says giving money to the non profits gets kid involved and keeps them out of trouble. That’s why he was giving money to the Christian Surfers. Morgan is a joke.

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    Hey Chip. How bout you pull AH out of your a$$ and assign him and Ingram to do some real work for once in their careers and have someone show them how to be investigators and help out doing some follow ups and solve some of these shootings. There are 2 do nothing employees right there that could be put in investigations. Make all of your colonels and majors and whatever else you have up there do the job of the Sgt and Lt and put the Sgt and Lt that are in Inv out in the field to solve these crimes. All of this admin staff is bull sh$t.
    Show everyone you have what it takes to make the necessary changes and get things going in the right direction.

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    Interesting since Ingram and crime scene and evidence were doing more to look into gun violence with IBIS and tracing guns putting a little bit of two and two together until Pinney gets embarrassed and complains like a little kid. Out of petty little disagreements IBIS technology free of charge is gone. Well done fisherman. Go cry to Gilmore since everyone hurts your little feelings and instead of doing your job you run around as a snitch. Spend that time doing your job. You get your money’s worth out of Ingram and his staff every day. AH doesn’t have the ability to investigate anything but a plate of food. Anyone who works around Ingram respects him. Anyone around Pinney knows he is lazy and filled with spite AH is anyone’s guess as to what function he has I don’t know if he has a law enforcement thought ever

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    Another in Montclair yesterday. Eight shootings in ten days! Same standard line for all, 'no suspects.' Morgan blames people not talking and the decay of society. Yes, there is a moral decay of society and it is difficult when the public wont assist you. Witnesses are a key cornerstone! However, the time for excuses needs to end! You are ELECTED thelbert! You have to produce results! Maybe if you hadn't (figuratively) beaten the hell out of your troops, they would be better off! 'Our Sheriffs Office' (as you call it thelbert) is BETTER than this! We are better than excuses! DO NOT blame 'society' until you have done every possible thing that you can as the head law enforcement officer! You pissed away some great resources (TAC, street crimes, etc) and refuse to tune up others. You run people off! Also, has anyone else noticed that Chip is surprisingly M.I.A. on camera all the sudden? I guess when it could look bad for his campaign he stays away! Oh, he's front and center for every puff piece and shred of good news there is, but not for the hard questions. Again, a clear view of his character for everyone to see!!! Success has many fathers; failure is an orphan! Chip, you are in charge of OPS now. You and your flunkies read this board. There are a lot of great ideas presented here. Instead of smack talking, maybe use some of these ideas! Sooner or later, one of our deputies will get hurt if we dont get a handle on this! It will progress! Legitimate citizens will get caught in the crossfire.

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    Plan: dump your two lazy bums in gun crime and establish a comprehensive gun crime unit no less then 5 people and GET IT OUT FROM UNDER Gilmore and get assigned persons from SAO and Probation FDLE and others and use task force concept with direct chain of command under Chip so he and they own it and invite some cops in who have successes in other similar situationally challenged cities and only assign people with work ethos and no outside jobs and give them a mandate to get results or be removed. Assign a prosecutor to this task force This can be done

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    The Feds need to come in and just tell SM it’s the way it’s gonna be. It’s obvious these idiots upstairs have no idea how to try and prevent crime. I was on a specialty unit when things were better here. Somewhere about 2010-2013 they cleaned house upstairs because they only cared about long lunches and the good Ol boys club. It needs to happen again.

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    The gang problem leads to the crime problem. It is cancer. The more that it takes root, the harder it gets to fight. Just because it's hard doesn't mean it's not worth the fight. Step one when battling cancer is coming to the realization that you have a problem; you have cancer. Ignoring it will not make it go away. Same here. Pretending that things are hunky dory dont make it so!

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