Scott Israel, lets not forget the airport.

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You're kidding, right?

First of all, the BSO is not responsible for the security protocols at the FLHIA. That is the purview of the DHS/TSA and BCAD. The BSO simply carries out the policies and procedures established by others. Also, the BSO is a contractor to BCAD [Broward County Aviation Department], it does not run the airport.

Now, an airline released a firearm and ammunition to an arriving passenger, inside the terminal, without notifying either BCAD or the BSO. This means that the BSO had no knowledge of any pending threat, until the subject with the gun opened fire. Deputies immediately responded and arrived approximately 60 seconds after the shooting began. Not the Sheriff's fault.

So, what "alternative procedures" could the Sheriff have instituted, unilaterally? Remember, the BSO is simply a contractor at the FLHIA whose main function is to implement security procedures put in place by other agencies and control public access to the airport. For this it is paid, by BCAD, for personnel and equipment used in that function.

The same is true at MSDHS. The BSO was paid, by the BCSB [Broward County School Board], for a single SRO, not for a full security team. The same is true at most Middle and High Schools in the county, elementary schools had part time SROs. The BCSB was, and still is, the party wholly responsible for the security of its schools. The fact is that the security in effect in the school system, in 2020, is exactly the same as that in place at MSDHS on the day of the shooting in 2018. The reason is money. The BCSB does not want to expend the money that it would cost to adequately secure the nearly 300 school campuses in Broward County. Also, the BSO has other responsibilities than securing the airport and schools. It does not have the resources to accommodate other agencies at the expense of the public which depends upon it to perform basic LE function throughout the county.

So, perhaps you should castigate the agencies responsible for the security of these facilities, rather than try to place responsibility upon the BSO, which it simply does not have, in these situations.

I don't know who wrote this, but again, not the sheriff's fault. The person who wrote this must have been living in a cave for the last 25 years. I would even know where to begin. Blaming BCAD, and the airport. Blaming the airlines for releasing a weapon? Ok Scott. This is why you are no longer the sheriff, you are incompetent, and so was your expert command staff. You're obviously living in a law enforcement bubble.The scary thing is, you don't even realize it. You really believe you are a great leader. Funny how Jake Tapper read into you in 30 seconds. But not in your mind. maybe one day you'll wake up.

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I don't know who wrote this, but again, not the sheriff's fault. The person who wrote this must have been living in a cave for the last 25 years. I would even know where to begin. Blaming BCAD, and the airport. Blaming the airlines for releasing a weapon? Ok Scott. This is why you are no longer the sheriff, you are incompetent, and so was your expert command staff. You're obviously living in a law enforcement bubble.The scary thing is, you don't even realize it. You really believe you are a great leader. Funny how Jake Tapper read into you in 30 seconds. But not in your mind. maybe one day you'll wake up.

Hey, if you give your neighbor a kilo of cocaine and he goes out and sells it, whose fault is that? The local law enforcement agency? If you fail to lock your door and someone enters and carries off your TV, whose fault is that? The Sheriff's? No, it is YOUR fault, because it was your responsibility not to sell the cocaine and to lock your doors.

Look, you people continue to blame the wrong person and agency for these things. I don't know if it is because you are ignorant of the relationship between the BSO and other county agencies, or if you are simply using this for political purposes or dislike Israel.

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Hey, if you give your neighbor a kilo of cocaine and he goes out and sells it, whose fault is that? The local law enforcement agency? If you fail to lock your door and someone enters and carries off your TV, whose fault is that? The Sheriff's? No, it is YOUR fault, because it was your responsibility not to sell the cocaine and to lock your doors.

Look, you people continue to blame the wrong person and agency for these things. I don't know if it is because you are ignorant of the relationship between the BSO and other county agencies, or if you are simply using this for political purposes or dislike Israel.

Comparing the selling of cocaine to people getting killed is a very poor analogy. If you as a law enforcement agency had information that the person was in possession of the cocaine and was about to distribute or sell that cocaine, ooops, do I need to elaborate. Maybe I should. YES, you are directly responsible!

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Comparing the selling of cocaine to people getting killed is a very poor analogy. If you as a law enforcement agency had information that the person was in possession of the cocaine and was about to distribute or sell that cocaine, ooops, do I need to elaborate. Maybe I should. YES, you are directly responsible!

In both of the cases that you referenced, neither then-Sheriff Israel, or the BSO, possessed any intelligence to suggest that either eventuality was likely to occur. In the case of the airport, how was BSO supposed to know a passenger from Alaska was armed and going to shoot up the airport? Realistically, the airline should have turned the luggage with the weapon over to the BSO and had them release it to the passenger outside the terminal. And, BCAD should have had a protocol in place mandating that. But they didn't. Instead they put the luggage containing the firearm onto an unsupervised public luggage carousel, where anyone could have picked it up.

In the case of Cruz, again the BSO had no reliable intelligence that he would shoot up the school. He had a lot of problems, which were evaluated by various agencies and professionals. and no action was taken against him. However, once again, the BSO was NOT responsible for the security at MSDHS. That is a clear fact. Responsibility for security at the school belonged, totally, to the BCSB. Whether the actions of the deputy in the scene and responding deputies was negligent is debatable, given the short time frame of the shooting, ~5 minutes. But, once again, the Sheriff and BSO's sole responsibility was to RESPOND to these criminal acts, not to prevent them, That was the responsibility of the BCSB, which could have done so by actively limiting access to the school campus and providing an on site response team. It did neither.

As BSO had no prior intelligence that either incident was likely to occur and that other agencies did, in fact, have responsibility for the security of the facilities in question, then the Sheriff and BSO were NOT responsible for the incidents.

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In both of the cases that you referenced, neither then-Sheriff Israel, or the BSO, possessed any intelligence to suggest that either eventuality was likely to occur. In the case of the airport, how was BSO supposed to know a passenger from Alaska was armed and going to shoot up the airport? Realistically, the airline should have turned the luggage with the weapon over to the BSO and had them release it to the passenger outside the terminal. And, BCAD should have had a protocol in place mandating that. But they didn't. Instead they put the luggage containing the firearm onto an unsupervised public luggage carousel, where anyone could have picked it up.

In the case of Cruz, again the BSO had no reliable intelligence that he would shoot up the school. He had a lot of problems, which were evaluated by various agencies and professionals. and no action was taken against him. However, once again, the BSO was NOT responsible for the security at MSDHS. That is a clear fact. Responsibility for security at the school belonged, totally, to the BCSB. Whether the actions of the deputy in the scene and responding deputies was negligent is debatable, given the short time frame of the shooting, ~5 minutes. But, once again, the Sheriff and BSO's sole responsibility was to RESPOND to these criminal acts, not to prevent them, That was the responsibility of the BCSB, which could have done so by actively limiting access to the school campus and providing an on site response team. It did neither.

As BSO had no prior intelligence that either incident was likely to occur and that other agencies did, in fact, have responsibility for the security of the facilities in question, then the Sheriff and BSO were NOT responsible for the incidents.

Holy Sh*T, have you been living in a bubble. Nikolas Cruz threatened to shoot up a school on his social media. he made other threats on his social media as well. please tell me you're not going by what that incompetent lier Jack Dale said at the Stoneman Douglas Commission hearing. Because I watched his presentation, WOW, he lied his ass off for Mr. incompetent. Cruz should have been arrested, at least that's what Ray Kelly the former NYPD commissioner said. But of course, Scott Israel and his band of misfits are much better and talented leaders than Ray Kelly. LOL

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Holy Sh*T, have you been living in a bubble. Nikolas Cruz threatened to shoot up a school on his social media. he made other threats on his social media as well. please tell me you're not going by what that incompetent lier Jack Dale said at the Stoneman Douglas Commission hearing. Because I watched his presentation, WOW, he lied his ass off for Mr. incompetent. Cruz should have been arrested, at least that's what Ray Kelly the former NYPD commissioner said. But of course, Scott Israel and his band of misfits are much better and talented leaders than Ray Kelly. LOL

So, you arrest Cruz. What happens next? It depends upon the nature of the charges. A misdemeanor may result in notice to appear in court. That will surely stop him from shooting up a school. Then we have various felonies. Almost all of them will result in bond and the arrestee's release. And, until he convicted, he can still buy a firearm, in many cases. Again that will surely stop him from shooting up a school. Then again, he could have been committed as a threat to himself or others. But, again, he would probably have been quickly released and would not have been stopped from buying his firearm. And, this does not take into account the other 2 million people in Broward county, any one of whom could do the same thing. Simply arresting people does not preclude them from committing crimes at a later date, unless you incarcerate them for life, w/o parole, or execute them.

So, how do you stop a person from shooting up all the schools, or even one, for that matter? Perimeter control. You have to restrict access to one or two entrance/exits. These portals have to be manned by an armed security team who can respond to a person who attempts to enter the campus with a weapon. And, you have to do this at 271 schools in Broward county. Now, the Sheriff is NOT responsible for the security at the Broward County Schools. He is a contractor to the BCSB. They are responsible for the amount of security assigned to any given school, not the Sheriff. And, even if the BSO was aware of Cruz's "threats", how do you expect the agency to provide adequate security at 271 schools? Who would be patrolling your neighborhoods?

What you want to do is to blame Israel for something over which he had no control. You completely ignore the BCSB, who had the actual responsibility for campus security. You completely ignore the fact that the normal security provisions, in virtually ever school district outside of Miami-Dade, was no better than that in Broward County, at the time of the shooting, and in some case worse. You also totally ignore the fact that the current security in Broward County, as well as the rest of the state, is exactly what was in place at MSDHS on the day of the shooting. For Broward County, nothing has changed. The same security flaws still exist and everyone chooses to ignore them.

Who are we going to blame if this happens again?

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So, you arrest Cruz. What happens next? It depends upon the nature of the charges. A misdemeanor may result in notice to appear in court. That will surely stop him from shooting up a school. Then we have various felonies. Almost all of them will result in bond and the arrestee's release. And, until he convicted, he can still buy a firearm, in many cases. Again that will surely stop him from shooting up a school. Then again, he could have been committed as a threat to himself or others. But, again, he would probably have been quickly released and would not have been stopped from buying his firearm. And, this does not take into account the other 2 million people in Broward county, any one of whom could do the same thing. Simply arresting people does not preclude them from committing crimes at a later date, unless you incarcerate them for life, w/o parole, or execute them.

So, how do you stop a person from shooting up all the schools, or even one, for that matter? Perimeter control. You have to restrict access to one or two entrance/exits. These portals have to be manned by an armed security team who can respond to a person who attempts to enter the campus with a weapon. And, you have to do this at 271 schools in Broward county. Now, the Sheriff is NOT responsible for the security at the Broward County Schools. He is a contractor to the BCSB. They are responsible for the amount of security assigned to any given school, not the Sheriff. And, even if the BSO was aware of Cruz's "threats", how do you expect the agency to provide adequate security at 271 schools? Who would be patrolling your neighborhoods?

What you want to do is to blame Israel for something over which he had no control. You completely ignore the BCSB, who had the actual responsibility for campus security. You completely ignore the fact that the normal security provisions, in virtually ever school district outside of Miami-Dade, was no better than that in Broward County, at the time of the shooting, and in some case worse. You also totally ignore the fact that the current security in Broward County, as well as the rest of the state, is exactly what was in place at MSDHS on the day of the shooting. For Broward County, nothing has changed. The same security flaws still exist and everyone chooses to ignore them.

Who are we going to blame if this happens again?

I don't even know why I'm bothering responding to this incompetents. So it may or may not do anything if you arrest him? So another words do nothing, because that's what you're saying. Oh jeez, if you are part of Israel's people, which I think you are, you answer all the questions, and justify his removal. I don't agree with the law, but the law was specifically designed for people like Scott Israel.

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I don't even know why I'm bothering responding to this incompetents. So it may or may not do anything if you arrest him? So another words do nothing, because that's what you're saying. Oh jeez, if you are part of Israel's people, which I think you are, you answer all the questions, and justify his removal. I don't agree with the law, but the law was specifically designed for people like Scott Israel.

You just do not get it, do you? You live in some fantasy world, where simply arresting someone will keep them from ever committing a crime. Are you familiar with the term "recidivism"? It is widely used to describe people who commit a criminal offense, are convicted of the offense and still go out and commit other crimes later. Did arresting these people stop them from committing the later crimes? No. Now, take the population of any developed area. Does the arrest of one burglar stop all burglaries from occurring? Again, no. What stops burglaries? Effective security measures. One installs locks, fences, alarms, and, sometimes, even a security force to thwart serious attempts to enter and commit crimes.

Now, Cruz, due to his actions, violated the law on several occasions. Ge should have been arrested or referred. He was not. But, this was not the sole fault of Sheriff Israel. Every elected official in the county, was onboard with this program. This included the BCSB, which declined to press charges against him. The SA who supported the program. The Chief Judge of the 17th Circuit. Everybody supported it.

But, again,it was not the responsibility for security at Broward County School campuses. That was the BCSB. It was this body which failed to have adequate security iin place at MSDHS, or any of the other 270 county schools, to prevent the entry, onto the school grounds, by an armed person. It was BCSB personnel who saw Cruz on campus, with a recognizable rifle case, and did not notify the office or the SRO. The BSO did not know that there was an armed, or even suspicious person on campus until 11 people were dead, or dying, and 13 wounded. And you want to blame this on Israel, not the agency responsible for security at the school, the BCSB? You then completely ignore the fact that same security arrangements remain in effect today, as were in place at MSDHS on the day of the shooting. Nothing has changed and Israel is no longer in office. So, who you gonna blame if this happens again?

Look, two things happened to Israel. First, a single scapegoat needed to be produced to take the blame for the shooting. So, Israel, who was sort of a toad sheriff already, was set up to take the blame, in order to protect the other Broward County politicians. Then, the newly elected Republican Governor comes along and suspends Israel, from office. The Senate has a Special Mater conduct an investigation and hearing. He finds that Israel is , essentially, innocent of the charges cited. And, he is critical of the Governor and his investigation. But, ignoring its own SM, and his finding, the Republican Senate backs the Republican Governor, and uphold the suspension, essentially railroading Israel out of office and nullifying the votes of several hundred voters, in the county.

If you want something done, about security in the schools, maybe you should have a talk with the members of the BCSB.

So, who is the real villain in this piece?

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You just do not get it, do you? You live in some fantasy world, where simply arresting someone will keep them from ever committing a crime. Are you familiar with the term "recidivism"? It is widely used to describe people who commit a criminal offense, are convicted of the offense and still go out and commit other crimes later. Did arresting these people stop them from committing the later crimes? No. Now, take the population of any developed area. Does the arrest of one burglar stop all burglaries from occurring? Again, no. What stops burglaries? Effective security measures. One installs locks, fences, alarms, and, sometimes, even a security force to thwart serious attempts to enter and commit crimes.

Now, Cruz, due to his actions, violated the law on several occasions. Ge should have been arrested or referred. He was not. But, this was not the sole fault of Sheriff Israel. Every elected official in the county, was onboard with this program. This included the BCSB, which declined to press charges against him. The SA who supported the program. The Chief Judge of the 17th Circuit. Everybody supported it.

But, again,it was not the responsibility for security at Broward County School campuses. That was the BCSB. It was this body which failed to have adequate security iin place at MSDHS, or any of the other 270 county schools, to prevent the entry, onto the school grounds, by an armed person. It was BCSB personnel who saw Cruz on campus, with a recognizable rifle case, and did not notify the office or the SRO. The BSO did not know that there was an armed, or even suspicious person on campus until 11 people were dead, or dying, and 13 wounded. And you want to blame this on Israel, not the agency responsible for security at the school, the BCSB? You then completely ignore the fact that same security arrangements remain in effect today, as were in place at MSDHS on the day of the shooting. Nothing has changed and Israel is no longer in office. So, who you gonna blame if this happens again?

Look, two things happened to Israel. First, a single scapegoat needed to be produced to take the blame for the shooting. So, Israel, who was sort of a toad sheriff already, was set up to take the blame, in order to protect the other Broward County politicians. Then, the newly elected Republican Governor comes along and suspends Israel, from office. The Senate has a Special Mater conduct an investigation and hearing. He finds that Israel is , essentially, innocent of the charges cited. And, he is critical of the Governor and his investigation. But, ignoring its own SM, and his finding, the Republican Senate backs the Republican Governor, and uphold the suspension, essentially railroading Israel out of office and nullifying the votes of several hundred voters, in the county.

If you want something done, about security in the schools, maybe you should have a talk with the members of the BCSB.

So, who is the real villain in this piece?

This must be Scott Israel, because there is only one person in Broward County who will not take responsibility for anything. And this is why the is unemployed, and the laughing stock of the entire country.

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Hey, if you give your neighbor a kilo of cocaine and he goes out and sells it, whose fault is that? The local law enforcement agency? If you fail to lock your door and someone enters and carries off your TV, whose fault is that? The Sheriff's? No, it is YOUR fault, because it was your responsibility not to sell the cocaine and to lock your doors.

Look, you people continue to blame the wrong person and agency for these things. I don't know if it is because you are ignorant of the relationship between the BSO and other county agencies, or if you are simply using this for political purposes or dislike Israel.

If I gave you a kilo of cocaine would you shove it up your arse? Quit defending the incompetent big eared phuck! Who put Jan Jordon in multiple leadership positions she couldn’t handle, spin that one Flamer!