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12-17-2019, 06:20 PM #11UnregisteredGuest
OK, how about Treasure Island making $5k more than PCSO ($78,124)? It only gets worse if you are thinking about getting promoted, PCSO Sgts. and Lts. make considerably less than just about every city in the county.
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12-17-2019, 06:29 PM #12UnregisteredGuest
SPPD also has to pay into its pension so that negates the pay difference. Who really wants to work for SPPD, it's a revolving door because it is severely understaffed, back to back calls, and the politics are worse than here. You don't see many leaving PCSO and transferring to SPPD.
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12-17-2019, 06:30 PM #13UnregisteredGuest
TPD and CWPD may have a 20 and out, but their retirement is significantly lower than PCSO. At 20 years, TPD retires with 63%. They still have to work 30 to get close to 100. PCSO at 30 retires with 97%. You can still leave from PCSO at 20, you’ll just be in the 60% range, just like TPD. You just won’t be considered “retired” and get retired benefits from the agency.
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12-17-2019, 06:33 PM #14UnregisteredGuest
The changes made to the FRS makes the pension more secure for future retirees. Florida is among the top 5 best funded state pensions for that reason. Good thing we have the steady FRS rather than some city pension which could go belly up during a recession or due to mismanagement. Think long term people.
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12-18-2019, 06:18 PM #15UnregisteredGuest
That’s great and all, but we are losing out on the best candidates due to a large pay discrepancy between CPD, TPD, and SPPD. They all have soon to be published step plans with huge raises coming within the next few years. I wouldn’t worry about the health of at least SPPD and TPD pensions. Yes it’s true that TPD has a fluctuating contribution percentage and SPPD is a steady 7%, but even considering that, they are way ahead. We are by far the elite county agency, we need to adjust our pay to reflect that so we can heavily scrutinize the applicants. 30 years is a long time, in order to attract the most intelligent and best of candidates, we need something that puts us ahead of the shiny shields that show them significantly more money and shorter career, we need only the best of the best wearing the star. With my history of teaching at the academy, I have seen a lot of bright individuals enticed to sub-par, higher paying agencies.
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12-18-2019, 06:28 PM #16UnregisteredGuest
Rick Scott was a huge mistake for Florida Voters, made all his riches through fraud.
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12-18-2019, 06:49 PM #17UnregisteredGuest
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12-18-2019, 08:14 PM #18UnregisteredGuest
[QUOTE=Unregistered;3080461]TPD and CWPD may have a 20 and out, but their retirement is significantly lower than PCSO. At 20 years, TPD retires with 63%. They still have to work 30 to get close to 100. PCSO at 30 retires with 97%. You can still leave from PCSO at 20, you’ll just be in the 60% range, just like TPD. You just won’t be considered “retired” and get retired benefits from the agency.[/QU
PCSO at 30yrs does NOT retire at 97%. You cant retire from PCSO at 20yrs unless you meet the age requirement, otherwise,
you take a 5% reduction for every year you are under the age of 55. If a deputy gets hired at 25 and wants to retire after 20yrs at 45 years of age, Their pension benefit will be reduced by 50%, 5% for every year under 55. So your 60% benefit gets cut in half and you leave with only 30%.
Most importantly FRS eliminated the annual COLA increases, so your pension check will never increase after you retire, you will become increasingly poor every year.
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12-18-2019, 08:51 PM #19UnregisteredGuest
SPPD contributes 7%, PCSO contributes 3%. SPPD makes $78,465 after contributions, PCSO makes $73, 409. You don't see many SPPD officers coming over to PCSO either. Once upon a time, most new hires here had local experience form SPPD, Largo, CPD, PP, etc., not anymore. Most new hires now have zero law enforcement experience as officers from local agencies no longer view PCSO as a step up.
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12-19-2019, 12:49 AM #20UnregisteredGuest
That’s great and all, but we are losing out on the best candidates due to a large pay discrepancy between CPD, TPD, and SPPD. They all have soon to be published step plans with huge raises coming within the next few years. I wouldn’t worry about the health of at least SPPD and TPD pensions. Yes it’s true that TPD has a fluctuating contribution percentage and SPPD is a steady 7%, but even considering that, they are way ahead. We are by far the elite county agency, we need to adjust our pay to reflect that so we can heavily scrutinize the applicants. 30 years is a long time, in order to attract the most intelligent and best of candidates, we need something that puts us ahead of the shiny shields that show them significantly more money and shorter career, we need only the best of the best wearing the star. With my history of teaching at the academy, I have seen a lot of bright individuals enticed to sub-par, higher paying agencies..
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