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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Are you still pushing this BS?

    At the moment, it is the Will of the People of Parkland to continue to contract with the BSO for police service. What YOU want is irrelevant, if the majority overrides that. If the People of Parkland want to sever their ties with the BSO, then all they have to do is to get their elected officials to do that. A simple written notification is all that is necessary. But, apparently, they do no desire that. You are, apparently, a member of the minority in Parkland.

    Now, the media wanted an elected official to be "responsible" for the MSDHS shooting. They settled on the Sheriff, because he was highly visible and because they did not want to start a panic by pointing out that this whole incident might well have been avoided, if the BCSB had effective security in place, at all of its 241 schools, to prevent such a tragedy. The Parkland Parents piled on to assuage their feelings, whether of loss or guilt. The political actors, in the rest of the state, jumped in, to divert attention from the fact that no school district in Florida, outside Miami-Dade has effective security in place in its schools. A well know political candidate for Governor was running neck and neck with a largely unknown challenger who was under active FBI investigation for corruption and needed a hook to get enough votes to win. And, a Republican Senate chose to ignore evidence and the rule of law and back the Republican Governor in his largely bogus action against Sheriff Israel. No significant increase in school security has occurred. The children are no safer from a similar attack now than they were in February of 2018. And, YOU want everyone to sit around holding hands and singing We Are The World. Right.

    The media wanted a scapegoat. The Parkland Parents wanted a scapegoat. DeSantis wanted a scapegoat so he could win a political contest. The Senate, recognizing how weak the Governor actually is, backed him, even after their own Special Master found the evidence did not support the charges and recommended that Israel be reinstated, because they wanted a scapegoat. Well all these people got what they wanted. They now OWN their actions in this matter. There is NO reason to scapegoat them, because the evidence clearly shows that they actually did all this.

    Now, explain to the 571,000 people who voted for Israel for Sheriff why no one bothered to consult with them before their choice for that office was unilaterally removed. Why the whining for 21000 people, who are perfectly cable of deciding their own fate, and ignore the half a million people who got hosed along with Israel?
    The crazy thing is, how the governors appointment went from being a Republican to a registered Demographic (to try gathering votes from the Democrat majority in Broward county)..a lot changes, even with brass demographics, since the switch over.

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    Sad Scott and Susan

    We tell people the families are crazy, sad how would you be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    # ifithappenedatapredominantlyblackschoolyouwouldhav eclaimedthedeputiesdidntgoinbecausetheydidntcareab outsavingblack kidsthenyouwouldhavesuedbsoformillionsafterhavingt hesheriffousted

    The deputies regardless of the timeline and the outcome were NOT required to go into the school per policy. How do you think the same situation would have played out in OP, or DB if it was "all over' by the time the deputies pulled up to the curb? Think those parents would have said " This was a fluke, a horrible tragedy. We blame the shooter!" NFW.
    FYI that policy was global. Who ever didn’t go in it’s because they chose not to. It’s not like we read every policy out there. Also keep in mind that Coral Springs never did there job. They went into a building and never met the threat. Coconut Creek guy found Cruz miles away from the school so y’all get it right. Hippocratic sons of *****es out there.
    You dam right I’m angry. Scott Israel should have never been fired. Facts speak louder then words and is Democrats will be out in full force to make sure he gets elected again.

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    The crazy thing is, how the governors appointment went from being a Republican to a registered Demographic (to try gathering votes from the Democrat majority in Broward county)..a lot changes, even with brass demographics, since the switch over.
    BSO is a mess right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    FYI that policy was global. Who ever didn’t go in it’s because they chose not to. It’s not like we read every policy out there. Also keep in mind that Coral Springs never did there job. They went into a building and never met the threat. Coconut Creek guy found Cruz miles away from the school so y’all get it right. Hippocratic sons of *****es out there.
    You dam right I’m angry. Scott Israel should have never been fired. Facts speak louder then words and is Democrats will be out in full force to make sure he gets elected again.
    Maybe on the minds of voters will be this:

    Imagine if on 9/11 firefighters had the option of staying outside even when their command sent their team in. Some knew up that staircase that they "may" not make it back out.

    Coral Springs did NOT know when they entered 1200 whether they would meet a threat or not. At that time the suspects location was unknown. Facts DO speak louder than words.

    I don't see you out in full force anywhere. Exactly where have you been expressing this anger in a public forum?

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    Maybe on the minds of voters will be this:

    Imagine if on 9/11 firefighters had the option of staying outside even when their command sent their team in. Some knew up that staircase that they "may" not make it back out.

    Coral Springs did NOT know when they entered 1200 whether they would meet a threat or not. At that time the suspects location was unknown. Facts DO speak louder than words.

    I don't see you out in full force anywhere. Exactly where have you been expressing this anger in a public forum?
    I have seen firefighters stand outside a building and watch it burn to the ground, without knowing if there was anyone inside or not. Corals Springs was not entering an active shooter situation. Once the shooting stops, the situation changes and becomes a potential hostage situation. The response then also changes. And, let us not forget that the CSPD entered in a four man entry team, as is usually practiced in active shooter training scenarios. They did not run in alone, did they?

    The problem with public perception is two fold. On the one hand, you have people who have NO knowledge of LE procedures and actual LEOs, who claim that their policies require that their employees to immediately enter an active shooter situation, when it was later proven to be false. In fact, some Florida sheriffs, who claimed their policies demanded immediate entry in such a situation, actually had policies which mirrored the BSO policy for such a situation. After MSDHS the media outcry was so overwhelming that LE administrators outside the county actually attempted to cover their butts to avoid figers pointing at them.

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    I have seen firefighters stand outside a building and watch it burn to the ground, without knowing if there was anyone inside or not. Corals Springs was not entering an active shooter situation. Once the shooting stops, the situation changes and becomes a potential hostage situation. The response then also changes. And, let us not forget that the CSPD entered in a four man entry team, as is usually practiced in active shooter training scenarios. They did not run in alone, did they?

    The problem with public perception is two fold. On the one hand, you have people who have NO knowledge of LE procedures and actual LEOs, who claim that their policies require that their employees to immediately enter an active shooter situation, when it was later proven to be false. In fact, some Florida sheriffs, who claimed their policies demanded immediate entry in such a situation, actually had policies which mirrored the BSO policy for such a situation. After MSDHS the media outcry was so overwhelming that LE administrators outside the county actually attempted to cover their butts to avoid figers pointing at them.
    Exactly where have you seen firefighters stand outside of a building and watch it burn to the ground with civilians in it? Is that what you were saying? Have you seen that in Broward ? And CSPD did NOT know what they were entering when they entered. That team of four which included one BSO did not waste time before they went in to the UNKNOWN and you know that. Your campaign is LOSING because your crafted explanations are pissing people off.

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    Exactly where have you seen firefighters stand outside of a building and watch it burn to the ground with civilians in it? Is that what you were saying? Have you seen that in Broward ? And CSPD did NOT know what they were entering when they entered. That team of four which included one BSO did not waste time before they went in to the UNKNOWN and you know that. Your campaign is LOSING because your crafted explanations are pissing people off.
    Not sure where your from but if you listened to the facts of the case you would be thinking other words. Your right about one thing and one thing only. Your pissing people off by the pact of facts but only words of fiction. People who are inferior like yourself can’t handle the truth so they expected to follow the ones that would make a profit. If you thought smart you would look at the big overall view of what’s going on here. Scott Israel has been investigated several times and last investigator was appointed by the republican senator. All came back as no wrong doing by Scott Israel. Like it or not factual will always override fiction. Do your homework next time you write cause it makes people like you look stupid. By the way, Coconut Creek is the ones who apprehended the suspect as he was found miles away. Coral Springs got all the 911 calls and responded first. What happened??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Exactly where have you seen firefighters stand outside of a building and watch it burn to the ground with civilians in it? Is that what you were saying? Have you seen that in Broward ? And CSPD did NOT know what they were entering when they entered. That team of four which included one BSO did not waste time before they went in to the UNKNOWN and you know that. Your campaign is LOSING because your crafted explanations are pissing people off.
    Reading comprehension id important. I said that I have seen firefighters watch a building burn, when they did not know, for certain, if there were any people inside or not.

    The CSPD also entered with a four man team, as per training. And, in case you missed it, Cruz had already left the building. Then it still took 20 minutes to clear the building. For those twenty minutes, there were casualties waiting for treatment.

    Now, this is important. How many people died because the entry ws delayed? Easy question, right? How many people dies because of any delay in entry? Give it a shot. There is no way to know. They casualties at MSDHS were shot with a rifle, at very close range. The best guess is that everyone who dies would have died no matter how fast the response. But, you keep missing the point. There was NO effective security in place to stop this shooter. And THAT was the responsibility of the BCSB. They are far more responsible for the results of the incident than was Israel and the BSO. But, no one cares about that, apparently. The level of security at every one of the 241 schools in the BCSS is exactly what was in place at MSDHS on the day of the shooting.

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    He's a user

    SI will use anyone or any situation for his political gain. He makes me sick.

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