The people of Broward County Demand for Scott Israel to be Reinstated Immediately!

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With all evidence that proven on the table you would think people would want to recognize Scott Israel was not to blame for the tragedy that Cruz caused. But we have money hungry vote driven individuals who have political agendas that can care less about the truth. This has been proven time after time but some people are just to stupid to recognize the truth.
I don’t care about the books and other props that will bring those people money it’s just shameful to do this to the victims who died that day.
Justice will prevail January 2021 when trial begins and the guilty verdict puts this animal who was ignored by his family, friends, school board and FBI.
Very sad story and no one wins.

Chronically mentally ill people do not "cause" tragedy. It's the failure of of our country not to have laws and systems in place to intitutionalize those who pose a threat to themselves and others. You can thank the liberals for that. They de-institutionalized thousands finding insitutionalization to be a violation of "rights" Nikolas Cruz was just one individual who had he been age 18 in 1960 would have been committed for life to a state mental institution years before MSD. He is no more to blame than a 90 year old woman with dementia who shoots someone. There are no other options than life or the death sentence for Cruz based on the law, and yes, he needs to be removed from society forever. However, only very sick and or evil people kill in this fashion. Their brains, their reasoning is abnormal. THAT is where the focus needs to be. Police and schools need to refuse to accept the burden of managing individuals with severe and debilitating mental illness. If there's one issue that should cause outrage, it's not a whining and offended Sheriff, it's WTF are we going to do with these psychotic people who walk among us to prevent this from happening again. Cruz is one of many.

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Chronically mentally ill people do not "cause" tragedy. It's the failure of of our country not to have laws and systems in place to intitutionalize those who pose a threat to themselves and others. You can thank the liberals for that. They de-institutionalized thousands finding insitutionalization to be a violation of "rights" Nikolas Cruz was just one individual who had he been age 18 in 1960 would have been committed for life to a state mental institution years before MSD. He is no more to blame than a 90 year old woman with dementia who shoots someone. There are no other options than life or the death sentence for Cruz based on the law, and yes, he needs to be removed from society forever. However, only very sick and or evil people kill in this fashion. Their brains, their reasoning is abnormal. THAT is where the focus needs to be. Police and schools need to refuse to accept the burden of managing individuals with severe and debilitating mental illness. If there's one issue that should cause outrage, it's not a whining and offended Sheriff, it's WTF are we going to do with these psychotic people who walk among us to prevent this from happening again. Cruz is one of many.

What are we going to do with crazy people who wander among us? Neutralize them with extreme prejudice, the instant that they present an imminent threat of death or great bodily harm? Arm and protect yourself.

What has happened, over the last six decades, is that the right of honest, law abiding people, to effectively use force to defend themselves, has been curtailed to the point where it no longer exists in several locales. People go through life depending upon others to protect them and their family. Then when no one protects them, they sit and whine about it.

As a society, we have decided that people who commit criminal acts, can learn and rehabilitate. Depending upon what crime is committed, the age of the person committing the crime, his actual history of committing crimes and several other factors, a person may turn his life around and become a contributing member of society. But, there is no way to determine who will or won't become that productive member of society. It is all a crap shoot. Still, only the most heinous criminals ever serve a life sentence or are executed. This means that almost all criminals are going to be released to commit the same, or worse, crimes in the future.

So, to avoid becoming a criminal statistic, people, and institutions, have to provide for their own immediate defense. In Florida, approximately half the population can legally carry a firearm in public. 20% of those people [10% of the total population] have procured the appropriate licensing to carry in public. Only half of those [5% of the total population] or less, actually carry a firearm on a regular basis.

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This is all political theater, nothing more.

DeSantis cares nothing about the desires of non-Republican voters in Broward County. He lost Broward 2:1 against Gillum, who was under investigation by the FBI. Now, the GOP of CS and Parkland is asking Republicans in Broward to contact Senators and try to sway them to vote to uphold the suspension. This was a political hit job when the suspension occurred and it is all political now.

The problem is precedent. If Israel was clearly guilty of what he was accused of AND was clearly responsible for both the MSDHS shooting and the FLHIA shooting incidents, we would not be having this discussion. But, he was not. What he was was, was a political scapegoat. And, to the best of my knowledge, the only sheriff in Florida history who was suspended who was NOT arrested, charged with or under indictment for a criminal offense. It was a purely political suspension. So, if a political suspension of a constitutional officer is allowed to stand, without significant evidence to support the charges, then this ets a precedent that any governor can do the same thing, at whim. And, what is good for the goose is good for the gander. A Democrat governor could target Republican elected officials just as easily. And, that is the question that the Senate has to deal with. The Snipes suspension never got to the Senate. And, Snipes WAS clearly incompetent and her incompetence was demonstrably affecting the elections in Florida. Now, the Israel suspension HAS gotten to the Senate and Israel is NOT clearly responsible for either of the shootings and any incompetence following those shootings does not rise to the level necessary to justify suspension for incompetence.

So, we shall see which way the Senate jumps. Stay tuned.

As far as the concerns about setting a precedent that could work both ways....

I'm a Republican. If at some point in the future a Republican Sheriff self identifies as an amazing leader, and does not have the decency to INITIATE a plan to step aside from a district of devastated people following a tragedy, I'd have no problem with him being removed by a democratic governor, if only to fulfill a political promise. Even dirtbag Abby F, the school board witch, stepped down to give a school board candidate with a dead child a chance. It's unfathomable that Israel, based on Peterson's and Millers inaction, has not approached the city with humility, as a man. Instead, he'll wait to be served with a 90 day notice. Classless coward.

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As far as the concerns about setting a precedent that could work both ways....

I'm a Republican. If at some point in the future a Republican Sheriff self identifies as an amazing leader, and does not have the decency to INITIATE a plan to step aside from a district of devastated people following a tragedy, I'd have no problem with him being removed by a democratic governor, if only to fulfill a political promise. Even dirtbag Abby F, the school board witch, stepped down to give a school board candidate with a dead child a chance. It's unfathomable that Israel, based on Peterson's and Millers inaction, has not approached the city with humility, as a man. Instead, he'll wait to be served with a 90 day notice. Classless coward.

Would you give it up. You make it sound like Israel would be holding the City of Parkland hostage. Not true. The City can cancel the contract with the BSO at any time that it wants. So, all YOU have to do is convince your leaders and the rest of the residents of Parkland to do just that. Now you advocate for allowing a handful of people, who lose loved ones to criminal action, to be given unilateral authority over everyone else in the city. Israel had NO direct responsibility for the shooting, that was the school board. Yet, I do not see you demanding that school security be increased beyond what was in place at MSDHS on the day of the shooting. Do you really care about the students in our schools, or is this just a political game to you?

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Israel wont get his job back. The garbage bucket doesn't deserve to be called a leo for his actions.

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As to whether he will be reinstated, the question you’re really asking is whether we believe Republican politicians are any different than democrat politicians. That’s a question of faith not fact.

Those who have faith in the Republican party would probably tend to say yes, he will be reinstated because they are going to follow the law and the magistrate’s legal conclusions. Those who would say the Republicans are no different than Democrats, and are just as likely to circumvent the law for politics, will tend to say no, he won’t be reinstated.

Personally, I think the Republican Party understands what’s at stake here. Frankly, it’s a lot more than this Governors ego. It’s the reputation of the Republican Party in Florida. I don’t think this Governors bad decision trumps their reputation, and I believe the Sheriff who was removed without evidence will be reinstated. I make no judgment on the reinstatement itself, other than to say I agree with the Special Master that the removal never should have occurred in the first place without proper evidence to support it.

Great points but you forgot to consider one major factor. Personally I think this factor is the only one Republican senators will consider when deciding how they will vote. That factor is how much they believe their chance of being reelected change based on their vote. If a particular senator believes that he will be reelected even if he votes to not reinstate Israel; there is almost no chance they he vote to reinstate Israel.

Lets be honest for a second, as much as you may want to put your faith into the morality of Republican officials; they have none. They are no different then any politician. They will do what it takes to get ahead and morals be damned. So if them not reinstating Israel won't hurt their chance of getting reelected, what motive do they have to do so besides "its the right thing to do?" The answer is none. Strategically speaking, it would be an idiotic move for any Republican Senator to vote to reinstate if they believe the above.

However, if they believe that not reinstating Israel will significantly affect their chances of being reelected and/or greatly hinder their political aspirations; they will vote to reinstate. I have no negative feelings towards Israel or Tony so I can look at this objectively. I also do not think that there is enough evidence to justify removing Israel from office. But the average US voter is extremely ignorant regarding anything but a few major issues in politics. As much as some people in this website may believe that many voters outside of the tri county area are watching this case holding their breathe; I can tell you that they are not. Chances are they don't even know this case exists. Therefore, they will not care how the Senate votes and they will continue to elect Republican Senators if they are a "red" district in FL. I think most Senators are smart enough to realize this so I think they will vote to uphold the suspension because that is the "smart move" strategically.

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Chronically mentally ill people do not "cause" tragedy. It's the failure of of our country not to have laws and systems in place to intitutionalize those who pose a threat to themselves and others. You can thank the liberals for that. They de-institutionalized thousands finding insitutionalization to be a violation of "rights" Nikolas Cruz was just one individual who had he been age 18 in 1960 would have been committed for life to a state mental institution years before MSD. He is no more to blame than a 90 year old woman with dementia who shoots someone. There are no other options than life or the death sentence for Cruz based on the law, and yes, he needs to be removed from society forever. However, only very sick and or evil people kill in this fashion. Their brains, their reasoning is abnormal. THAT is where the focus needs to be. Police and schools need to refuse to accept the burden of managing individuals with severe and debilitating mental illness. If there's one issue that should cause outrage, it's not a whining and offended Sheriff, it's WTF are we going to do with these psychotic people who walk among us to prevent this from happening again. Cruz is one of many.

STFU you moron. Glad you dont decide who gets institutionalized. Laws have changed for good reason

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STFU you moron. Glad you dont decide who gets institutionalized. Laws have changed for good reason

Constant, sudden outbursts of anger without reason or precursors would be a good indicator of people who should be institutionalized. You should be customer #1.

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People of Broward County and others outside of Broward will be taking the trip to support Sheriff Israel. DeSantis clearly has a personal issue with Israel and now spending thousands of OUR Tax dollars to only prove he is spending on Florida's dime to gain a political circus. He needs to back off! He's guaranteed no second term for sure. Israel WILL WIN his position back and those parents should go to church and ask themselves some serious questions.

If you're so passionate in your beliefs, go to the Walmart at 6001 Coral Ridge drive today around 9:30 or 10 o'clock (am) and try to prove your point. Good luck. You're certainly gonna need it...Along with maybe football gear and groin protection.
You're probably too chicken $hit to show up though.

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People of Broward County and others outside of Broward will be taking the trip to support Sheriff Israel. DeSantis clearly has a personal issue with Israel and now spending thousands of OUR Tax dollars to only prove he is spending on Florida's dime to gain a political circus. He needs to back off! He's guaranteed no second term for sure. Israel WILL WIN his position back and those parents should go to church and ask themselves some serious questions.

You mean the folks who were getting free turkeys😃