PROMISE + Scott Israel + Runcie + NAACP + Satz + Osgood + more = MURDERERS

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Scott Israel is nothing more than a narcissistic opportunist who will stop at nothing to gain power and try to be popular, f**king over anyone who gets in his way and f**king anyone to get his way.

Scott Israel has the thought process of a bulimic HS cheerleader.

He welcomed this program into our lives and embraced PROMISE with Runcie and Obama tactics. "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon" but Israel didn't have a black son and he wanted a piece of the blaction so he went out of his way to shoot that video "Raise your voices, not your fists" because he said the blacks in Broward will riot during the Zimmerman trial. Guess what? People are selfish and the blacks didn't give a rat's ass and they DIDN'T riot because they didn't care. Israel WANTED them to riot. He WANTED a race war so he could be the black savior. "The Cambridge police acted stupidly" and so did BSO and Pereza. #BLM. Wheels up. Guns Down. Remember Scotty never let us enforce the law during the MLK bike and ATV rides that terrorize our streets, putting pedestrians and drivers and store owners at risk. When did that start? Under Israel. He LOVED the helicopter news shots and free publicity. He is responsible for the Ferguson effect spreading at BSO. He is responsible for all the damage that has been down to Broward and its demise. Period. He got struck with that white guilt bug and is infected. He WISHES Delucca Rolle happened on his watch, he would have had these deputys ass' on the nationwide stage. His only fault was fumbling his greatest creation, the Parkland shooting, he came so close to taking away our guns, he has always stated that fact and he almost got away with it. I mean come on, look how quickly he blamed the NRA before blaming the shooter.

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Whether it's correct or not, this ^ is not a narrative that the public will accept. Ever. It's unfathomable that a campaign would choose to take this path from a strategic standpoint. It's impossible to remove the emotion from a situation which involves dead children. All this is doing is assuring the public that the attitude is this:

" Well, there's crazy people all over in this world. Nothing we can do about that. Stuff happens and every now and then, kids at school will end up like this. Police should stop a shooter, but don't have to step in if they think it's too dangerous. On second thought, they must. No one cares enough to spend money on making schools safer and that's none of our business. Our first priority is to make sure that we're still friends with the church leaders and black kids don't end up in jail, but whatever happens at school, we're staying out of it unless the SRD just happens to be in that area of the school and is available.

^ May or may not be the message, but that is how it's coming across to voters. The final question with ballot in hand will be this:
Which one of these two candidates (that i'm not very excited about) will have the most EXPECTATION of their rank and file to GO IN if they are called?

This does nothing but reinforce that the plan is to go back to business as usual.

First of all, most voters in Broward County DO NOT CARE about the MSDHS shooting. It is old news. And, the shooter is in custody and the then Sheriff has been suspended, so we are all safe again, right? That was the whole point of the bogus media attempt to blame everything on Israel and his equally bogus suspension. Now, strategically, when people actually look at the situation which existed at MSDHS, on the day of the shooting, what it does is limit the culpability of the BSO and Israel. It puts the whole situation into perspective. Neither Israel nor the BSO was responsible for the shooting. And, the facts surrounding Israel's suspension make it very clear that it was an unjustified political hatchet job.

The fact that the BCSB, not the BSO, chose not to spend money on protecting their schools against a threat which only statistically greater than an airplane crashing into the school, is NOT an issue which should reflect upon the Sheriff or his department. The parents of the 270,000 children enrolled in the BCSD had ample opportunity to demand such security measures and they did not. Since the shooting they have had ample opportunity to demand such spending, and they have not. As to an SRO stepping in, that may or may not be warranted, depending upon the situation. There is no one-size-fits-all approach to life, including police work. Let's say that Dep. Peterson had instantly run into BLDG 12 upon his arrival. In the first place, you would still have 11 dead and all the wounded on the first floor would already be down. That is why the FDLE did not charge Peterson with any crimes, regarding those casualties. Nothing he could have done to stop it. But, let's say he runs into the school. He has no idea how many people are doing the shooting. He has no idea where they are. And, he has no back-up. So, it is possible that upon entering the school, he is shot dead immediately. This does no one any good. It is possible that the shooter is no longer in sight. Now he has to clear the area, slowly, as he proceeds. If he arrives at the 2nd floor, then he has to clear that floor as well, even if shots are coming from the third floor. If he suddenly encounters the shooter, or a second shooter, on that floor, there is a very good chance that he will lose that encounter as well. After all, he is alone and the other person, or persons, are more heavily armed. This may or may not save anyone on the 3rd floor. If he stops the shooter, this is a plus, but not guaranteed. If the shooter makes it to the 3rd floor, then he may or may not have time to shoot all of the victims there, before Peterson has a chance to encounter him. And, current active shooter doctrine is for entry to be made with two or more persons, the basic training unit is four men, like CSPD used, when they finally got there. Whether Peterson should have entered anyway, if for no other reason than to gather intelligence is arguable. But, as we now know, and which may have been known to Peterson at the time, BSO radios do not work well, if at all, inside some of the buildings at MSDHS.

Now, like it or not, we are already back to business as usual. It does not matter who the Sheriff is, if the BCSB does not harden the school campuses to resist an armed intrusion, the children are no safer now than they were on the day of the MSDHS shooting. And, no one is pushing them to do that. Not the parents, not the state, NO ONE. When will see the the magnetometers, x-ray machines and armed guards at the POE of these schools? Never.

As to election strategy, I have no interest in that. Except how it reflects upon the rank and file of the BSO. Israel opponent are the ones trying to use the MSDHS shooting against Israel. But, in so doing, they are indirectly, or directly, tarring the rank and file deputies as being incompetent cowards, for political purposes. And, I do not like that. There are a number of reasons not to vote for Israel for Sheriff. There are equally good reasons not to vote for anyone who has thrown their hat in the ring for Sheriff, nor for those waiting in the wings. But, the MSDHS shooting is not one of them. It is abundantly clear that Israel was unjustly saddled with the responsibility for the MSDHS shooting and was hosed by Gov. DeSantis in order to create a scapegoat and to pay off a political debt. It might be a good idea for the Israel opponents to refrain from attempting to paint him as the demon of MSDHS and stick to his real short comings.

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What he said.... Continuing to blame Israel for MSD, when it's already been proven that he isn't the cause, will put another PSB swipe card in Israel's pocket. The blacks are so busy trying to look intelligent and strategic, that they are going to water down the ones that do decide to roll out of bed and vote. Five thousand votes per each black candidate, and eight thousand for Israel is pathetic by any measure. But guess who wins with eight thousand votes...

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If you asked ANYONE affected by MSD, if they had to choose between Israel or Runcie to be at fault, it would have been RUNCIE. Whether Israel should or should not have been suspended is less significant now because he doesn't have the sympathy of the public. The perception is that he is an ally of Runcie because he signed on and stuck by him and continues to. Perception matters in an election because when you lose an election due to lack of PUBLIC TRUST all of the "no fair" declarations the next day are pointless. A fair way to resolve this is to pay SI his full salary through 2020 and have him agree to move on to a county that embraces the pandering and exploitation of blacks and elderly residents for the purpose of obtaining votes and continuing the practice of changing law enforcement to professional observers of crime who are under no obligation to protect the public if they choose not to. California (the land of fruits and nuts)would be ideal; swimming pools, movie stars, lots of golf.

Let's go to the videotape...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Baqe...=youtu.be&t=16

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First of all, most voters in Broward County DO NOT CARE about the MSDHS shooting. It is old news. And, the shooter is in custody and the then Sheriff has been suspended, so we are all safe again, right? That was the whole point of the bogus media attempt to blame everything on Israel and his equally bogus suspension. Now, strategically, when people actually look at the situation which existed at MSDHS, on the day of the shooting, what it does is limit the culpability of the BSO and Israel. It puts the whole situation into perspective. Neither Israel nor the BSO was responsible for the shooting. And, the facts surrounding Israel's suspension make it very clear that it was an unjustified political hatchet job.

The fact that the BCSB, not the BSO, chose not to spend money on protecting their schools against a threat which only statistically greater than an airplane crashing into the school, is NOT an issue which should reflect upon the Sheriff or his department. The parents of the 270,000 children enrolled in the BCSD had ample opportunity to demand such security measures and they did not. Since the shooting they have had ample opportunity to demand such spending, and they have not. As to an SRO stepping in, that may or may not be warranted, depending upon the situation. There is no one-size-fits-all approach to life, including police work. Let's say that Dep. Peterson had instantly run into BLDG 12 upon his arrival. In the first place, you would still have 11 dead and all the wounded on the first floor would already be down. That is why the FDLE did not charge Peterson with any crimes, regarding those casualties. Nothing he could have done to stop it. But, let's say he runs into the school. He has no idea how many people are doing the shooting. He has no idea where they are. And, he has no back-up. So, it is possible that upon entering the school, he is shot dead immediately. This does no one any good. It is possible that the shooter is no longer in sight. Now he has to clear the area, slowly, as he proceeds. If he arrives at the 2nd floor, then he has to clear that floor as well, even if shots are coming from the third floor. If he suddenly encounters the shooter, or a second shooter, on that floor, there is a very good chance that he will lose that encounter as well. After all, he is alone and the other person, or persons, are more heavily armed. This may or may not save anyone on the 3rd floor. If he stops the shooter, this is a plus, but not guaranteed. If the shooter makes it to the 3rd floor, then he may or may not have time to shoot all of the victims there, before Peterson has a chance to encounter him. And, current active shooter doctrine is for entry to be made with two or more persons, the basic training unit is four men, like CSPD used, when they finally got there. Whether Peterson should have entered anyway, if for no other reason than to gather intelligence is arguable. But, as we now know, and which may have been known to Peterson at the time, BSO radios do not work well, if at all, inside some of the buildings at MSDHS.

Now, like it or not, we are already back to business as usual. It does not matter who the Sheriff is, if the BCSB does not harden the school campuses to resist an armed intrusion, the children are no safer now than they were on the day of the MSDHS shooting. And, no one is pushing them to do that. Not the parents, not the state, NO ONE. When will see the the magnetometers, x-ray machines and armed guards at the POE of these schools? Never.

As to election strategy, I have no interest in that. Except how it reflects upon the rank and file of the BSO. Israel opponent are the ones trying to use the MSDHS shooting against Israel. But, in so doing, they are indirectly, or directly, tarring the rank and file deputies as being incompetent cowards, for political purposes. And, I do not like that. There are a number of reasons not to vote for Israel for Sheriff. There are equally good reasons not to vote for anyone who has thrown their hat in the ring for Sheriff, nor for those waiting in the wings. But, the MSDHS shooting is not one of them. It is abundantly clear that Israel was unjustly saddled with the responsibility for the MSDHS shooting and was hosed by Gov. DeSantis in order to create a scapegoat and to pay off a political debt. It might be a good idea for the Israel opponents to refrain from attempting to paint him as the demon of MSDHS and stick to his real short comings.

Incorrect to conclude that those who blame the Sheriff are also blaming the rank and file. THAT is coming from SI's posters. It is NOT the sentiment in any Broward community. The majority of the public sees the deputies between a rock and a hard place with regard to juvenile matters. Ironically, it was Pollack and some of the other Parkland parents who helped the public to understand that fact over the past several months. SI would love to have everyone believing that the "coward" label is all inclusive. It's not. SI is perceived as a coward for his associations, and no amount of explanation, deduction or rationalization will convince the voting public otherwise. These dead kids may be nothing more than still photos to some; but they were real people with real lives. I won't support Tony; but MSD, the shameful "Wheels Up" events which were a disgrace, will be very much on my mind and the minds of thousands at the time a candidate is chosen.

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First of all, most voters in Broward County DO NOT CARE about the MSDHS shooting. It is old news. And, the shooter is in custody and the then Sheriff has been suspended, so we are all safe again, right? That was the whole point of the bogus media attempt to blame everything on Israel and his equally bogus suspension. Now, strategically, when people actually look at the situation which existed at MSDHS, on the day of the shooting, what it does is limit the culpability of the BSO and Israel. It puts the whole situation into perspective. Neither Israel nor the BSO was responsible for the shooting. And, the facts surrounding Israel's suspension make it very clear that it was an unjustified political hatchet job.

The fact that the BCSB, not the BSO, chose not to spend money on protecting their schools against a threat which only statistically greater than an airplane crashing into the school, is NOT an issue which should reflect upon the Sheriff or his department. The parents of the 270,000 children enrolled in the BCSD had ample opportunity to demand such security measures and they did not. Since the shooting they have had ample opportunity to demand such spending, and they have not. As to an SRO stepping in, that may or may not be warranted, depending upon the situation. There is no one-size-fits-all approach to life, including police work. Let's say that Dep. Peterson had instantly run into BLDG 12 upon his arrival. In the first place, you would still have 11 dead and all the wounded on the first floor would already be down. That is why the FDLE did not charge Peterson with any crimes, regarding those casualties. Nothing he could have done to stop it. But, let's say he runs into the school. He has no idea how many people are doing the shooting. He has no idea where they are. And, he has no back-up. So, it is possible that upon entering the school, he is shot dead immediately. This does no one any good. It is possible that the shooter is no longer in sight. Now he has to clear the area, slowly, as he proceeds. If he arrives at the 2nd floor, then he has to clear that floor as well, even if shots are coming from the third floor. If he suddenly encounters the shooter, or a second shooter, on that floor, there is a very good chance that he will lose that encounter as well. After all, he is alone and the other person, or persons, are more heavily armed. This may or may not save anyone on the 3rd floor. If he stops the shooter, this is a plus, but not guaranteed. If the shooter makes it to the 3rd floor, then he may or may not have time to shoot all of the victims there, before Peterson has a chance to encounter him. And, current active shooter doctrine is for entry to be made with two or more persons, the basic training unit is four men, like CSPD used, when they finally got there. Whether Peterson should have entered anyway, if for no other reason than to gather intelligence is arguable. But, as we now know, and which may have been known to Peterson at the time, BSO radios do not work well, if at all, inside some of the buildings at MSDHS.

Now, like it or not, we are already back to business as usual. It does not matter who the Sheriff is, if the BCSB does not harden the school campuses to resist an armed intrusion, the children are no safer now than they were on the day of the MSDHS shooting. And, no one is pushing them to do that. Not the parents, not the state, NO ONE. When will see the the magnetometers, x-ray machines and armed guards at the POE of these schools? Never.

As to election strategy, I have no interest in that. Except how it reflects upon the rank and file of the BSO. Israel opponent are the ones trying to use the MSDHS shooting against Israel. But, in so doing, they are indirectly, or directly, tarring the rank and file deputies as being incompetent cowards, for political purposes. And, I do not like that. There are a number of reasons not to vote for Israel for Sheriff. There are equally good reasons not to vote for anyone who has thrown their hat in the ring for Sheriff, nor for those waiting in the wings. But, the MSDHS shooting is not one of them. It is abundantly clear that Israel was unjustly saddled with the responsibility for the MSDHS shooting and was hosed by Gov. DeSantis in order to create a scapegoat and to pay off a political debt. It might be a good idea for the Israel opponents to refrain from attempting to paint him as the demon of MSDHS and stick to his real short comings.

You have no interest in the election; yet you'll write a dissertation to make a point in defense of the suspended Sheriff. Anything else that you don't have an interest in that you'd care to defend? Tell us one more time about how the inaction of parents resulted in the deaths of their children; how they didn't care enough to spend the money to harden the schools ; or how about their demands for soft policing in Parkland; that one's the best. How they twisted the Sheriff's arm to demand Jan Jordan because they wanted "diversity" in the community. Please keep up this narrative, and provide plenty of detail. It's a "winning" strategy.

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Incorrect to conclude that those who blame the Sheriff are also blaming the rank and file. THAT is coming from SI's posters. It is NOT the sentiment in any Broward community. The majority of the public sees the deputies between a rock and a hard place with regard to juvenile matters. Ironically, it was Pollack and some of the other Parkland parents who helped the public to understand that fact over the past several months. SI would love to have everyone believing that the "coward" label is all inclusive. It's not. SI is perceived as a coward for his associations, and no amount of explanation, deduction or rationalization will convince the voting public otherwise. These dead kids may be nothing more than still photos to some; but they were real people with real lives. I won't support Tony; but MSD, the shameful "Wheels Up" events which were a disgrace, will be very much on my mind and the minds of thousands at the time a candidate is chosen.

Wow!!! Where were you in the weeks following the MSDHS shooting. How did you miss the charges that the BSO deputies who responded were cowards, while the CSPD officers, who arrived after Cruz left the campus, were heroes. As Israel was not only NOT at the school, at the time of the shooting, but did not exercise any direct supervision of the incident until after it was all over, the charges were the result of the actions of his deputies. The fact, that these charges were all contrived, is something which needs to be illustrated. The same is true of the aftermath of the FLHIA shooting. Israel's critics, including DeSantis claimed that the deputies were incompetent [which was never proven to be true] and therefor the Sheriff was incompetent. So, please do not blow smoke and try to say that people are not tarring the rank and file of the BSO as incompetents and cowards.

Pollack, is still trying to blame someone in authority with the shooting at MSDHS. As we have now some to realize, it was not the Sheriff. And, as we have come to realize, it was not even the fault of the BCSB, as the chances of a school mass shooting are so remote that NO school system had adequate security in place to stop one. Now, he and others are trying to paint the problem as being the Promise program. As if there was no one else, among the 2 million residents of Broward County, who was capable of committing the same crime as Cruz. And, all of the "efforts" of the self-sacrificing parents of Broward County have FAILED to secure their children's schools against an attack by an armed invader. Do we see marches on the BCSB offices? Do we see parents pulling their children out of school until the school is secure? Do we see daily editorials in the local media demanding effective security of school campuses in Broward? No. Again, NO!!!. Know why? Because the populace does not see any threat of another mass school shooting. They feel safe, because the Sheriff was "responsible" for the incident and he is suspended and Cruz is in custody. That was the whole point of painting him as the one responsible and for his suspension. To make the public feel secure. Well, it worked. They are just as secure as they were on the day of the MSDHS shooting.

And, it is the Israel opponents who are bringing the MSDHS incident up. His supporters are not calling him a murder, are they? Hardly. I admire your attempt to spin this, but it is not going to work. While there are an number of good reasons for not electing Israel, the shootings at FLHIA and MSDHS are not one of them. And, the more that the Israel opponents bring it up, the more people are exposed to the truth, that Israel was a political scapegoat and that his suspension was not justified. If these people are smart, they would frop this line of attack. That includes the Promise program, which the MSDHS Commission stated was NOT a factor in the shooting at MSDHS.

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You have no interest in the election; yet you'll write a dissertation to make a point in defense of the suspended Sheriff. Anything else that you don't have an interest in that you'd care to defend? Tell us one more time about how the inaction of parents resulted in the deaths of their children; how they didn't care enough to spend the money to harden the schools ; or how about their demands for soft policing in Parkland; that one's the best. How they twisted the Sheriff's arm to demand Jan Jordan because they wanted "diversity" in the community. Please keep up this narrative, and provide plenty of detail. It's a "winning" strategy.

That is correct. I have NO interest in the election. I am not a supporter of Scott Israel, nor any other candidate or potential candidate. My whole purpose is to protect the reputation of the rank and file of the BSO. It is their actions which are being labelled as cowardly and incompetent and therefor, the Sheriff was also sowardly and incompetent.

Ah, the parents of Broward School children. The parents share the blame for the MSDHS shooting. Now, they have the same defense as the BCSB; mass school shootings are so rare that almost NO ONE provides security adequate to stop such an attack. They felt safe. They still feel safe. Today, the security in place at Broward County School campuses is almost exactly the same as that in place at MSDHS on the day of the shooting. So, how much so the parents really care?

There is no evidence of the level policing in Parkland having any effect on the shooting at all. This charge was nothing more than an effort to pin something on Israel. Crime was not out of control in Parkland. If it had been, the vocal residents would have been up in arms. And, of course, they weren't. Also, District 17 did not have operational control of the SRO at MSDHS. That came from the command of the SRO program. The ONLY problem in Parkland, that anyone brings up with any regularity, is the MSDHS shooting.

All of this MSDHS BS is being used to bludgeon Israel. However, to apply it to Israel, the deputies have to be painted as being incompetent, cowards, or stupid. And that I object to.

As to the advisability of using this as an election strategy, I do not care. I am not involved with the Israel campaign and could care less if he is elected Sheriff in 2020. This county will end up with exactly the incompetent elected officials that it deserves without my help. However, considering the reactions that my posts get on this forum, it appears that my points may be worrying Israel opponents. If Israel opponents can not come up with reasons to vote for other candidates for Sheriff, except thise other candidates are NOT Israel, they have dig problems. Good luck.

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That is correct. I have NO interest in the election. I am not a supporter of Scott Israel, nor any other candidate or potential candidate. My whole purpose is to protect the reputation of the rank and file of the BSO. It is their actions which are being labelled as cowardly and incompetent and therefor, the Sheriff was also sowardly and incompetent.

Ah, the parents of Broward School children. The parents share the blame for the MSDHS shooting. Now, they have the same defense as the BCSB; mass school shootings are so rare that almost NO ONE provides security adequate to stop such an attack. They felt safe. They still feel safe. Today, the security in place at Broward County School campuses is almost exactly the same as that in place at MSDHS on the day of the shooting. So, how much so the parents really care?

There is no evidence of the level policing in Parkland having any effect on the shooting at all. This charge was nothing more than an effort to pin something on Israel. Crime was not out of control in Parkland. If it had been, the vocal residents would have been up in arms. And, of course, they weren't. Also, District 17 did not have operational control of the SRO at MSDHS. That came from the command of the SRO program. The ONLY problem in Parkland, that anyone brings up with any regularity, is the MSDHS shooting.

All of this MSDHS BS is being used to bludgeon Israel. However, to apply it to Israel, the deputies have to be painted as being incompetent, cowards, or stupid. And that I object to.

As to the advisability of using this as an election strategy, I do not care. I am not involved with the Israel campaign and could care less if he is elected Sheriff in 2020. This county will end up with exactly the incompetent elected officials that it deserves without my help. However, considering the reactions that my posts get on this forum, it appears that my points may be worrying Israel opponents. If Israel opponents can not come up with reasons to vote for other candidates for Sheriff, except thise other candidates are NOT Israel, they have dig problems. Good luck.

You are absolutely NOT on the side of the rank and file. Your own dramatic words ie; "bludgeon" give you away. Your comments about the City of Parkland, and policing in that community are not even close to being accurate; which is an indication that you are at least in an administrative position and had your head in the sand prior to that event. The rank and file being labeled cowards was one group of vocal parents, the MFOL kids and the media who refused to interview those who supported police. Ask the deputies who were sent to Parkland immediately following MSD. They were offered support by residents every day who were concerned about the trauma that they had experienced and the cruelty of the media. There's a huge number of us who have supported the deputies from day one, mostly the residents who reside east of Pine Island. Your information is inaccurate and third hand.

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That is correct. I have NO interest in the election. I am not a supporter of Scott Israel, nor any other candidate or potential candidate. My whole purpose is to protect the reputation of the rank and file of the BSO. It is their actions which are being labelled as cowardly and incompetent and therefor, the Sheriff was also sowardly and incompetent.

Ah, the parents of Broward School children. The parents share the blame for the MSDHS shooting. Now, they have the same defense as the BCSB; mass school shootings are so rare that almost NO ONE provides security adequate to stop such an attack. They felt safe. They still feel safe. Today, the security in place at Broward County School campuses is almost exactly the same as that in place at MSDHS on the day of the shooting. So, how much so the parents really care?

There is no evidence of the level policing in Parkland having any effect on the shooting at all. This charge was nothing more than an effort to pin something on Israel. Crime was not out of control in Parkland. If it had been, the vocal residents would have been up in arms. And, of course, they weren't. Also, District 17 did not have operational control of the SRO at MSDHS. That came from the command of the SRO program. The ONLY problem in Parkland, that anyone brings up with any regularity, is the MSDHS shooting.

All of this MSDHS BS is being used to bludgeon Israel. However, to apply it to Israel, the deputies have to be painted as being incompetent, cowards, or stupid. And that I object to.

As to the advisability of using this as an election strategy, I do not care. I am not involved with the Israel campaign and could care less if he is elected Sheriff in 2020. This county will end up with exactly the incompetent elected officials that it deserves without my help. However, considering the reactions that my posts get on this forum, it appears that my points may be worrying Israel opponents. If Israel opponents can not come up with reasons to vote for other candidates for Sheriff, except thise other candidates are NOT Israel, they have dig problems. Good luck.

You can preach the above to the choir (at Mt. Olive) but everyone else will call BS.