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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Hows this for the HCSO making us and our mental health a priority? I been working my zone this 36 hour weekend on nights with no zone partner and no mid shift to help us when we start during peak hours. Slammed with paper and non stop calls with maybe two dayshift units that log in for relief. If I do get a zone partner, that means the adjacent zone is unmanned.

    However,

    Walk into the lobby of anyone of our districts. Take a look at those big new command staff displayer screen devices. How much were those? How many people were involved in that project? Im sure all the brass are so proud. How does that take precedence over fukking staffing us? How about suspend all the toys and games until our front line problems have been resolved. Makes me sick.

    Every zone manned at 0600! 4 units minimum. Plus floaters.

    The same at 0700. 4 units. Plus a floater.

    Then a full mid shift! 4 units. Plus a floater.

    Distribute the god damn mental exposure and loaf amongst many and not a few!

    Start with preventing burnout! Make this job sustainable! How many more have to quit?

    If you cant, then back off on the calls, paper, and expectations. One or the other. Quality or quantity. If you want both, double our staff.



    Quality vs Quantity. The HCSO chooses quantity... EVERY... SINGLE... TIME!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Hows this for the HCSO making us and our mental health a priority? I been working my zone this 36 hour weekend on nights with no zone partner and no mid shift to help us when we start during peak hours. Slammed with paper and non stop calls with maybe two dayshift units that log in for relief. If I do get a zone partner, that means the adjacent zone is unmanned.

    However,

    Walk into the lobby of anyone of our districts. Take a look at those big new command staff displayer screen devices. How much were those? How many people were involved in that project? Im sure all the brass are so proud. How does that take precedence over fukking staffing us? How about suspend all the toys and games until our front line problems have been resolved. Makes me sick.

    Every zone manned at 0600! 4 units minimum. Plus floaters.

    The same at 0700. 4 units. Plus a floater.

    Then a full mid shift! 4 units. Plus a floater.

    Distribute the god damn mental exposure and loaf amongst many and not a few!

    Start with preventing burnout! Make this job sustainable! How many more have to quit?

    If you cant, then back off on the calls, paper, and expectations. One or the other. Quality or quantity. If you want both, double our staff.
    Quit being spoiled cry babies and appreciate you’ve been afforded the opportunity to be part of the rare elite organization. If you work hard, get your education, become and remain loyal, you might be allowed to one day join the ranks of the administration. Quit being disloyal and disgruntled little liars and you’ll have a chance to one day earn a nice office chair. Otherwise you WILL remain a bottom level worker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Quit being spoiled cry babies and appreciate you’ve been afforded the opportunity to be part of the rare elite organization. If you work hard, get your education, become and remain loyal, you might be allowed to one day join the ranks of the administration. Quit being disloyal and disgruntled little liars and you’ll have a chance to one day earn a nice office chair. Otherwise you WILL remain a bottom level worker.
    I provided facts based on observations. What did you provide???

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    I like how someone keeps hyping this agency like it was hand picked by God himself.

    Perhaps you've never worked or even traveled anywhere else in your life. Hate to break it to you but there are agencies in other parts of the state and the country with better gear, pay, training, benefits, morale, staffing, etc.

    HCSO IS one of the more desired agencies in these parts but that's only when you narrow your horizons. When you throw around propaganda like "elite" and "you're so lucky," you make me want to vomit. Are you trying to convince us or yourself?

    Get over yourself. HCSO is not prefect and if you really respect the institution you'd be on board with making changes that actually might make your "elite" claims hold more water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I like how someone keeps hyping this agency like it was hand picked by God himself.

    Perhaps you've never worked or even traveled anywhere else in your life. Hate to break it to you but there are agencies in other parts of the state and the country with better gear, pay, training, benefits, morale, staffing, etc.

    HCSO IS one of the more desired agencies in these parts but that's only when you narrow your horizons. When you throw around propaganda like "elite" and "you're so lucky," you make me want to vomit. Are you trying to convince us or yourself?

    Get over yourself. HCSO is not prefect and if you really respect the institution you'd be on board with making changes that actually might make your "elite" claims hold more water.
    Very well said! These people are so programmed that nothing gets fixed. When we wake up, disconnect, and speak up, we are outcasted, so nothing gets fixed. Vicious toxic paradigm that never ends.

  6. #56
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    First responder type jobs are NOT the problem. Agencies blame “the job” when workers leave or become symptomatic. This leads everyone to believe that these issues are “just the way they are”. That is a piss poor cop out.

    When deputies leave and they are blamed for not having what it takes is another piss poor cop out.

    This collective narcissistic agency refuses to listen and is too fat headed to swallow its pride to make real changes. So do many others.

    The problem is the amount of exposure and for how long.

    With proper staffing, the load is reduced. This allowing first responders to not become symptomatic and or quit. Thus allowing them to work to full term.

    How is this for a test of an agencies attention to our mental health...

    Do we work 12 hours or a minimum of 12 hours? Is not knowing when you are going home not a stressor? Can that be tolerated for 30 years?

    Is it conducive to positive mental health to be sent to initiate a 3 to 6 hour investigation that will result in a life changing decision to a citizen and maybe take away their liberties and to complete mandatory tasks by the tail end of a long 12 hour shift 30 min before your shift is over? With no systems in place to prevent that? With no specific administrative time? With no mid shift? Can that be mentally sustained for 30 years? Especially with the constant anticipation of when this will happen?

    When people quit and walk away from the fancy cars, guns, pay, and benefits, it is 100% because of the above.

    Being able to be happy, enjoy their job, not be set up for failure, not lighting the candle at both ends, makes a great career. This agency fails!

    Being bullied into liking your job is where this turd of an agency fails.

    Common sense and longevity differentiates a job from a career. Not toys. Not pay. Fix this paridigm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    First responder type jobs are NOT the problem. Agencies blame “the job” when workers leave or become symptomatic. This leads everyone to believe that these issues are “just the way they are”. That is a piss poor cop out.

    When deputies leave and they are blamed for not having what it takes is another piss poor cop out.

    This collective narcissistic agency refuses to listen and is too fat headed to swallow its pride to make real changes. So do many others.

    The problem is the amount of exposure and for how long.

    With proper staffing, the load is reduced. This allowing first responders to not become symptomatic and or quit. Thus allowing them to work to full term.

    How is this for a test of an agencies attention to our mental health...

    Do we work 12 hours or a minimum of 12 hours? Is not knowing when you are going home not a stressor? Can that be tolerated for 30 years?

    Is it conducive to positive mental health to be sent to initiate a 3 to 6 hour investigation that will result in a life changing decision to a citizen and maybe take away their liberties and to complete mandatory tasks by the tail end of a long 12 hour shift 30 min before your shift is over? With no systems in place to prevent that? With no specific administrative time? With no mid shift? Can that be mentally sustained for 30 years? Especially with the constant anticipation of when this will happen?

    When people quit and walk away from the fancy cars, guns, pay, and benefits, it is 100% because of the above.

    Being able to be happy, enjoy their job, not be set up for failure, not lighting the candle at both ends, makes a great career. This agency fails!

    Being bullied into liking your job is where this turd of an agency fails.

    Common sense and longevity differentiates a job from a career. Not toys. Not pay. Fix this paridigm.
    You revealed your real motivation to increase manpower. It’s clear you expect to come in and work 8 hours then hang around the office “working” on administrative tasks before you log off in your driveway. But you want to be paid for 12 hours of real work!! Greedy and selfish. Wanting to take advantage of the taxpayers. Thankfully the sheriff cares about the taxpayers and the community and doesn’t listen to thieves like you.

  8. #58
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    Go away you non Leo troll. Go knock on doors for Bernie if your are bored.

  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Don’t like it? THEN QUIT!!!
    You are an idiot. F-in idiot. Weather you are actual law enforcement officer or a stupid f-in troll living in mommy's basement. Having more people "quit" will only make the matters worse. It is basic business managment. We need the issues to be resolved. Until then, the trend will get worse...

    "The estimated number of law enforcement officers who died by suicide outnumbered those who died in the line of duty for the third straight year in 2018, a newly released study shows.

    Blue H.E.L.P., a Massachusetts-based nonprofit run by active and retired police officers, medical professionals and victims’ families, compiled and released the grim data this week.

    According to the organization, at least 159 officers took their own lives in 2018 — the same number of suicide fatalities it tracked in 2017 and 19 more than in 2016.

    By contrast, the estimated number of law enforcement officers who died in the line of duty last year was 145, according to an annual report released by the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund".


    It is obvious something needs to change in the law enforcement field.? Those stats alone is a cry for help. The pieces of crap talking $h!+ on here against this matter is unbelievable. You all are a heartless POS.

    Cops take people to the hospital everyday when they are thinking and/or attempting to hurt themselves. Yet if one of us seek help, staff talks $h!+, most people will distance themselves from the one seeking help, sometimes they are flagged and let go due to being "unstable", etc. That is f@%<3d up! Fix the problems.

  10. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    You are an idiot. F-in idiot. Weather you are actual law enforcement officer or a stupid f-in troll living in mommy's basement. Having more people "quit" will only make the matters worse. It is basic business managment. We need the issues to be resolved. Until then, the trend will get worse...

    "The estimated number of law enforcement officers who died by suicide outnumbered those who died in the line of duty for the third straight year in 2018, a newly released study shows.

    Blue H.E.L.P., a Massachusetts-based nonprofit run by active and retired police officers, medical professionals and victims’ families, compiled and released the grim data this week.

    According to the organization, at least 159 officers took their own lives in 2018 — the same number of suicide fatalities it tracked in 2017 and 19 more than in 2016.

    By contrast, the estimated number of law enforcement officers who died in the line of duty last year was 145, according to an annual report released by the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund".


    It is obvious something needs to change in the law enforcement field.? Those stats alone is a cry for help. The pieces of crap talking $h!+ on here against this matter is unbelievable. You all are a heartless POS.

    Cops take people to the hospital everyday when they are thinking and/or attempting to hurt themselves. Yet if one of us seek help, staff talks $h!+, most people will distance themselves from the one seeking help, sometimes they are flagged and let go due to being "unstable", etc. That is f@%<3d up! Fix the problems.
    If anyone needs help figuring out which parts he typed and which parts he copied and pasted, it’s very simple to distinguish. The parts WITHOUT grammar and punctuation errors are the ones copied and pasted. The other gibberish was typed by the person posting this thing.

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