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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    You revealed your real motivation to increase manpower. It’s clear you expect to come in and work 8 hours then hang around the office “working” on administrative tasks before you log off in your driveway. But you want to be paid for 12 hours of real work!! Greedy and selfish. Wanting to take advantage of the taxpayers. Thankfully the sheriff cares about the taxpayers and the community and doesn’t listen to thieves like you.
    Troll.. get a life. He/she is saying they want to get off work on time just like anyone who works does. We have plans and prior obligations we already made. We also need sleep. A 12 hour shift is long enough. Include drive time to and from the house. We all don't live in the are we work. 30-60+ min drive to and from zone, turns the 12 hour shift into a 14 hour day. Then if we catch a case just before shift is over, more hours added. That means overtime (more money for the "taxpayers"). Not you since you are likely unemployed. Oh by the way, WE (cops)are also tax payers.

    We get it.. we work you don't. We likely pay for many benefits you receive from the government. Your welcome, now leave. Take a shower, get some sunlight, and meet a person you may be interested in. It is not healthy to continue doing what you are doing. Someone is out there for you. Go find them. It will be better and more beneficial then what you are doing on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    If anyone needs help figuring out which parts he typed and which parts he copied and pasted, it’s very simple to distinguish. The parts WITHOUT grammar and punctuation errors are the ones copied and pasted. The other gibberish was typed by the person posting this thing.
    Really? That is your reply? Wow... The content and message was simple to understand. The author included somber statistics from a reliable source. The source you had difficulty "figuring out" was put in quotations... meaning it was likely copied and pasted. The rest of us understand it. You don't need to doubt the rest of our intelligence because you had a difficult time comprehending something that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Really? That is your reply? Wow... The content and message was simple to understand. The author included somber statistics from a reliable source. The source you had difficulty "figuring out" was put in quotations... meaning it was likely copied and pasted. The rest of us understand it. You don't need to doubt the rest of our intelligence because you had a difficult time comprehending something that simple.
    Yeah but the original poster is stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Yeah but the original poster is stupid.
    Why do you try to counter our concerns with officer mental health. What has the agency done to make this job mentally sustainable for 30 years? Remember, buying shinny things does not count.

    Provide facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Quit being spoiled cry babies and appreciate you’ve been afforded the opportunity to be part of the rare elite organization. If you work hard, get your education, become and remain loyal, you might be allowed to one day join the ranks of the administration. Quit being disloyal and disgruntled little liars and you’ll have a chance to one day earn a nice office chair. Otherwise you WILL remain a bottom level worker.
    This is an opinion. Not factual. This counter argument is useless. Provide facts how this agency make sustaining this job for 30 years possible. How about comment on how getting rid of the mid shift has affected our stress level thought the shift. Facts facts facts. Explain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    First responder type jobs are NOT the problem. Agencies blame “the job” when workers leave or become symptomatic. This leads everyone to believe that these issues are “just the way they are”. That is a piss poor cop out.

    When deputies leave and they are blamed for not having what it takes is another piss poor cop out.

    This collective narcissistic agency refuses to listen and is too fat headed to swallow its pride to make real changes. So do many others.

    The problem is the amount of exposure and for how long.

    With proper staffing, the load is reduced. This allowing first responders to not become symptomatic and or quit. Thus allowing them to work to full term.

    How is this for a test of an agencies attention to our mental health...

    Do we work 12 hours or a minimum of 12 hours? Is not knowing when you are going home not a stressor? Can that be tolerated for 30 years?

    Is it conducive to positive mental health to be sent to initiate a 3 to 6 hour investigation that will result in a life changing decision to a citizen and maybe take away their liberties and to complete mandatory tasks by the tail end of a long 12 hour shift 30 min before your shift is over? With no systems in place to prevent that? With no specific administrative time? With no mid shift? Can that be mentally sustained for 30 years? Especially with the constant anticipation of when this will happen?

    When people quit and walk away from the fancy cars, guns, pay, and benefits, it is 100% because of the above.

    Being able to be happy, enjoy their job, not be set up for failure, not lighting the candle at both ends, makes a great career. This agency fails!

    Being bullied into liking your job is where this turd of an agency fails.

    Common sense and longevity differentiates a job from a career. Not toys. Not pay. Fix this paridigm.
    Bump. To the top. Offer facts to counter my argument. Not spelling critiques to throw off the topic. Back on track. What has the agency done to make this job mentally sustainable. What affect did getting rid of the mid shift cause. What does constantly going home late after 12 very stressful hours cause? Provide facts. Observations. Am I lying about our staffing shortages, resignations, and mid shift??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    You are an idiot. F-in idiot. Weather you are actual law enforcement officer or a stupid f-in troll living in mommy's basement. Having more people "quit" will only make the matters worse. It is basic business managment. We need the issues to be resolved. Until then, the trend will get worse...

    "The estimated number of law enforcement officers who died by suicide outnumbered those who died in the line of duty for the third straight year in 2018, a newly released study shows.

    Blue H.E.L.P., a Massachusetts-based nonprofit run by active and retired police officers, medical professionals and victims’ families, compiled and released the grim data this week.

    According to the organization, at least 159 officers took their own lives in 2018 — the same number of suicide fatalities it tracked in 2017 and 19 more than in 2016.

    By contrast, the estimated number of law enforcement officers who died in the line of duty last year was 145, according to an annual report released by the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund".


    It is obvious something needs to change in the law enforcement field.? Those stats alone is a cry for help. The pieces of crap talking $h!+ on here against this matter is unbelievable. You all are a heartless POS.

    Cops take people to the hospital everyday when they are thinking and/or attempting to hurt themselves. Yet if one of us seek help, staff talks $h!+, most people will distance themselves from the one seeking help, sometimes they are flagged and let go due to being "unstable", etc. That is f@%<3d up! Fix the problems.
    Great post. Cut and past or spelling is immaterial. Only the content matters. How does the agency support what is mentioned in this post? Offer facts. No opinions.

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    Notice that I did not Single out anyone. Not the sheriff or any one person. This toxic Docobo paradigm is kept alive by YOU. All the blind loyalists that have put everything including families, yourselves, and your mental health second behind this job. And for what? Acceptance? Approval? Rank? Your comments demanding us to shit up and not mention the serious issues we have are the cause. The reason we are not heard. Why information about issues stop moving up the chain as soon as it reaches one of you. You set a bad precedence for zero change for the better and you bully the ones that want it.

  9. #69
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    Notice that I did not Single out anyone. Not the sheriff or any one person. This toxic Docobo paradigm is kept alive by YOU. All the blind loyalists that have put everything including families, yourselves, and your mental health second behind this job. And for what? Acceptance? Approval? Rank? Your comments demanding us to shit up and not mention the serious issues we have are the cause. The reason we are not heard. Why information about issues stop moving up the chain as soon as it reaches one of you. You set a bad precedence for zero change for the better and you bully the ones that want it.
    Why information about issues stop moving up the chain...
    Huh?

  10. #70
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    Why information about issues stop moving up the chain...
    Huh?
    Because of this toxic narcissistic superhero non human complex paradigm that rots this agency. Deputies concerns are seen as bad. As weakness. A deputy with a concern is seen as defective. Not someone with information that can make things better. Its a choice to keep this paradigm alive. In order for those concerns to be heard, the next level up or to or three levels up, would have break that trend and push the concern along, take the concern serious, and push for that or those deputies. Being that it is seen as a bad thing to back up subordinates, and due to this agency’s way of unofficially punishing and black listing us, our concern stops at whatever scared rank chaser, ate up programmed blind loyalists, or supporter of this paradigm, the concern reaches. At a minimum, even the greatest of supervisors are too scared to rock the boat.

    Thats the problem, our concerns are seen as rocking the boat instead of front line feedback for making this agency truly better and a great place to work. Its not the whole first responder job stress that is the problem. Its the trends that are deeply imbedded in the way this agency manages. Not leads. We have NO leaders here. Only managers.

    If you don't understand that, then you are a part of the problem.

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