Sorry Scott Social Media Crew you're not convincing anyone not even Grandma

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The fact that Israel was suspended solely as a political ploy and the BCSB was given a pass, by the Governor, should be very troubling to the electorate. It was an unprecedented suspension, in Florida. And, it tarred the entire agency with responsibility for two shooting, neither of which the agency had any responsibility for.

Now, Whether one chooses to voted for Israel, Tony or any of the other candidates who have thrown their hat in the ring, or those being put forth as potential candidates, that should be done on many factors. Factors such as the ability to manage the agency and personal integrity. In my opinion, none of the current crop of potential Sheriffs are equipped to handle the job. So, who you vote for, or whether you vote at all, is entirely up to you.

1) The Governor does not have the authority to fire Runcie. The school board deserves to be fired. The governor does have the authority to fire them, and he will. SBBC records are more difficult to investigate due to FERPA. It's not quite as apparent as BSO may/shall and lax policies that resulted in the deaths of innocent people; through no fault of the rank and file.

2) Candidates make promises all the time for votes. DeSantis did too. So did Israel. He promised that it doesn't matter who you play golf with. DeSantis kept HIS promise.

3) The entire agency was not tarred. It is abundantly clear that the failures are at the administrative level.

4) Agree that to date there is no candidate who has filed to be excited about.

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1) The Governor does not have the authority to fire Runcie. The school board deserves to be fired. The governor does have the authority to fire them, and he will. SBBC records are more difficult to investigate due to FERPA. It's not quite as apparent as BSO may/shall and lax policies that resulted in the deaths of innocent people; through no fault of the rank and file.

2) Candidates make promises all the time for votes. DeSantis did too. So did Israel. He promised that it doesn't matter who you play golf with. DeSantis kept HIS promise.

3) The entire agency was not tarred. It is abundantly clear that the failures are at the administrative level.

4) Agree that to date there is no candidate who has filed to be excited about.

The Governor DOES have the power to suspend the BCSB. Runcie does not exist in a vacuum, he works FOR the BCSB. They chose not to fire him, because he was carrying out their policies and they would have to accept responsibility for those policies. And, the Governor has steadfastly refused to suspend the school board.

As to this policy BS, please. The School Board had the legal responsibility to secure the MSDHS campus. It failed to do that. This is self evident by the results of the day in question. It did not have adequate entry control in place. Three of its employees saw Cruz on campus. They knew that Cruz was on campus, knew he was not allowed on campus, knew that he was prone to cause trouble and knew that he was carrying a "bag" which could be easily identified as being a rifle case and failed to notify the office, by radio. Even after the shooting started, the school failed to declare a Red Alert, which would have kept all the students in their secure classrooms, for several minutes. On the other hand, the Sheriff, and his deputies had NO responsibility for security at the school. The shall/may policy has not been shown to have caused any casualties. And, none of the policies of the Sheriff resulted in the death of anyone.

Now, I applaud your attempt to protect the rank and file deputies. However, the reasons for the Sheriff's suspension all depend upon the performance of rank and file deputies. The Sheriff was not on the scene. He had no direct input to the incident. HIS failure was illustrated by the claimed failure of deputies, sergeants and the District commander. Dep. Peterson was charged with a huge number of criminal charges, over a year after the incident and two weeks before Israel's Senate hearing, all but one of which are not even applicable to him or his performance. So, yes, the entire agency was tarred as cowards.

As to the Governor keeping his promises, big deal. He made a promise to suspend the Sheriff for wholly political reasons. He refused to do the same to the BCSB, with some weak mention that he could not suspend Runcie, even though the responsibility lay with the NCSB, Runcie's bosses. And, DeSantis is never going to take ANY action against the School Board. Why? Because they only needed ONE scapegoat to assuage public opinion.And Israel was it.

Since the shooting, nothing has been done to significantly increase security at Broward County Schools, or in any school system in the state. The much touted security "upgrades" mandated by the State Legislature amount to the exact same conditions that applied at MSDHS, on the day of the shooting. That;s right. MSDHS did not have to do a single thing that was not in pace on the day of the shooting to be in compliance with the new laws. Nothing.

None of the current crop of candidates for Sheriff are capable of running a 5500 man agency, with multiple divergent areas of responsibility and a nearly $1 billion operating budget. Maybe someone with impressive qualifications will step forward. But, I doubt it.

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The Governor DOES have the power to suspend the BCSB. Runcie does not exist in a vacuum, he works FOR the BCSB. They chose not to fire him, because he was carrying out their policies and they would have to accept responsibility for those policies. And, the Governor has steadfastly refused to suspend the school board.

As to this policy BS, please. The School Board had the legal responsibility to secure the MSDHS campus. It failed to do that. This is self evident by the results of the day in question. It did not have adequate entry control in place. Three of its employees saw Cruz on campus. They knew that Cruz was on campus, knew he was not allowed on campus, knew that he was prone to cause trouble and knew that he was carrying a "bag" which could be easily identified as being a rifle case and failed to notify the office, by radio. Even after the shooting started, the school failed to declare a Red Alert, which would have kept all the students in their secure classrooms, for several minutes. On the other hand, the Sheriff, and his deputies had NO responsibility for security at the school. The shall/may policy has not been shown to have caused any casualties. And, none of the policies of the Sheriff resulted in the death of anyone.

Now, I applaud your attempt to protect the rank and file deputies. However, the reasons for the Sheriff's suspension all depend upon the performance of rank and file deputies. The Sheriff was not on the scene. He had no direct input to the incident. HIS failure was illustrated by the claimed failure of deputies, sergeants and the District commander. Dep. Peterson was charged with a huge number of criminal charges, over a year after the incident and two weeks before Israel's Senate hearing, all but one of which are not even applicable to him or his performance. So, yes, the entire agency was tarred as cowards.

As to the Governor keeping his promises, big deal. He made a promise to suspend the Sheriff for wholly political reasons. He refused to do the same to the BCSB, with some weak mention that he could not suspend Runcie, even though the responsibility lay with the NCSB, Runcie's bosses. And, DeSantis is never going to take ANY action against the School Board. Why? Because they only needed ONE scapegoat to assuage public opinion.And Israel was it.

Since the shooting, nothing has been done to significantly increase security at Broward County Schools, or in any school system in the state. The much touted security "upgrades" mandated by the State Legislature amount to the exact same conditions that applied at MSDHS, on the day of the shooting. That;s right. MSDHS did not have to do a single thing that was not in pace on the day of the shooting to be in compliance with the new laws. Nothing.

None of the current crop of candidates for Sheriff are capable of running a 5500 man agency, with multiple divergent areas of responsibility and a nearly $1 billion operating budget. Maybe someone with impressive qualifications will step forward. But, I doubt it.

Ohhhhh.... now I get it. Runcie should have been removed before Israel. Well, as long as they're both not leading either agency, it all comes out the same. Runcie should be out soon. Hopefully there will be candidates with impressive qualifications for both agencies as they were both epic failures on every level.

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Scott Isreal's last solo, he has no confidence and the same fools keep posting everyday but he's truly not coming back. My Grandpa and Grandma said hell no to voting for Isreal. And we're Jewish.

Thanks Larry

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Ohhhhh.... now I get it. Runcie should have been removed before Israel. Well, as long as they're both not leading either agency, it all comes out the same. Runcie should be out soon. Hopefully there will be candidates with impressive qualifications for both agencies as they were both epic failures on every level.

No, you do not get it. Neither the Sheriff nor the school board, nor Runcie should have been removed. Runcie works for the school board and they are ultimately responsible for his actions or inactions, on their behalf.

What happened is that the BCSB chose NOT to spend a lot of money to prevent a mass school shooting, because they are statistically insignificant. Given the number of schools in the country and the number of school shootings, it is a statistically insignificant incident. So, the school board decided not to spend money on the security necessary to prevent it. With me so far? The Sheriff, who has no responsibility for security of the schools was certainly not going to spend the money to secure the schools. Got it? And, of course, the parents did not press for any security. After all, it couldn't happen here.

So along comes Cruz with his rifle. What little security the school system had in place failed, as he was seen by several people and no one notified the office. Even after the shooting began, no one issued a Red Alert, which would have locked down the classrooms, for several minutes. Dep. Peterson responds to Bldg 12 and chooses to wait for back-up, before entering. Whether he should have done that or not is debatable. But, immediate entry would not have saved any of the dead and wounded on the first floor. So, Cruz shoots up the third floor, tries to shoot out an upstairs window and is leaving before the third deputy arrives on campus. None of this is in dispute.

Now, the fun begins. The parents of the slain students and the media begin clamoring for someone in authority to be responsible and to be punished. And, somehow, the BCSB largely gets a pass on responsibility from these groups. It is decided early on that the Sheriff is going to be the scapegoat. When DeSantis is elected, he suspends Israel, but ignores the BCSB, who was actually responsible for the security at the school. Why? Because, there only needs to be ONE political scapegoat.

Now fast forward to today. The State of Florida convenes a commission to study what happened and to make recommendations to improve school security. the Legislature acts on those recommendations and passes laws setting minimum standards for campus security. And, guess what? They are almost identical to the security in place at MSDHS on the day of the shooting. That's right. No significant increase in security. Why is that, do you suppose? That is because effective security measures, which would stop a person from entering a school and shooting a large number of students, is very expensive. And, the chances of such an attack occurring are very, very low. So, no one wants to spend the money for it. In fact, some of the parents actively worked against instituting effective security measures.

The take away here is that no public official should have been suspended. They can certainly be sued civilly. And, the parents should have clambered for effective security measures to be instituted. That didn't happen, though. What happened is that the Sheriff gets suspended and now everyone feels safe and secure, though nothing has really changed.

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Isreal was just plain useless a dummy that by chance got lucky.. dumber than a bag of Rock's

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Israel and pollock two peas in a pod. Both are worthless supervisors that destroyed bso. Israel eith his failed policies along with the promise program he signed onto with runcie tied the hands of Leo's within this agency. The men and women should get behind bukata.

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Israel and pollock two peas in a pod. Both are worthless supervisors that destroyed bso. Israel eith his failed policies along with the promise program he signed onto with runcie tied the hands of Leo's within this agency. The men and women should get behind bukata.

Are you the dude who got fired for sleeping lol sorry but it sort of sounds like it lol

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No, you do not get it. Neither the Sheriff nor the school board, nor Runcie should have been removed. Runcie works for the school board and they are ultimately responsible for his actions or inactions, on their behalf.

What happened is that the BCSB chose NOT to spend a lot of money to prevent a mass school shooting, because they are statistically insignificant. Given the number of schools in the country and the number of school shootings, it is a statistically insignificant incident. So, the school board decided not to spend money on the security necessary to prevent it. With me so far? The Sheriff, who has no responsibility for security of the schools was certainly not going to spend the money to secure the schools. Got it? And, of course, the parents did not press for any security. After all, it couldn't happen here.

So along comes Cruz with his rifle. What little security the school system had in place failed, as he was seen by several people and no one notified the office. Even after the shooting began, no one issued a Red Alert, which would have locked down the classrooms, for several minutes. Dep. Peterson responds to Bldg 12 and chooses to wait for back-up, before entering. Whether he should have done that or not is debatable. But, immediate entry would not have saved any of the dead and wounded on the first floor. So, Cruz shoots up the third floor, tries to shoot out an upstairs window and is leaving before the third deputy arrives on campus. None of this is in dispute.

Now, the fun begins. The parents of the slain students and the media begin clamoring for someone in authority to be responsible and to be punished. And, somehow, the BCSB largely gets a pass on responsibility from these groups. It is decided early on that the Sheriff is going to be the scapegoat. When DeSantis is elected, he suspends Israel, but ignores the BCSB, who was actually responsible for the security at the school. Why? Because, there only needs to be ONE political scapegoat.

Now fast forward to today. The State of Florida convenes a commission to study what happened and to make recommendations to improve school security. the Legislature acts on those recommendations and passes laws setting minimum standards for campus security. And, guess what? They are almost identical to the security in place at MSDHS on the day of the shooting. That's right. No significant increase in security. Why is that, do you suppose? That is because effective security measures, which would stop a person from entering a school and shooting a large number of students, is very expensive. And, the chances of such an attack occurring are very, very low. So, no one wants to spend the money for it. In fact, some of the parents actively worked against instituting effective security measures.

The take away here is that no public official should have been suspended. They can certainly be sued civilly. And, the parents should have clambered for effective security measures to be instituted. That didn't happen, though. What happened is that the Sheriff gets suspended and now everyone feels safe and secure, though nothing has really changed.

Thank you for the clarification. Now I understand why ALL of the public officials, Israel, Runcie etc. should have been suspended and then terminated. It all makes sense now. In essence, the SRO was no more than a cardboard cutout making over 100K per year because the Sheriff had zero expectations of him. Peterson followed policy and now he and a bunch of other cops have had their lives ruined. But what matters here is that one individual had his feelings hurt and is having an " It's not fair!" tantrum in the courts. But you're right, no worries. Soon everyone else involved in this finger pointing will be fired, including the school board. Thanks again for summing it up.

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Thank you for the clarification. Now I understand why ALL of the public officials, Israel, Runcie etc. should have been suspended and then terminated. It all makes sense now. In essence, the SRO was no more than a cardboard cutout making over 100K per year because the Sheriff had zero expectations of him. Peterson followed policy and now he and a bunch of other cops have had their lives ruined. But what matters here is that one individual had his feelings hurt and is having an " It's not fair!" tantrum in the courts. But you're right, no worries. Soon everyone else involved in this finger pointing will be fired, including the school board. Thanks again for summing it up.

ck Scott says FBI won’t answer questions about mishandled tip on Parkland shooter
Rick Scott says FBI won’t answer questions about mishandled tip on Parkland shooter
By David Smiley
August 09, 2019 04:14 PM, Updated 6 hours 29 minutes ago

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/pol...233705667.html

Republican Florida Sen. Rick Scott is asking the U.S. Department of Justice to pry more information out of the FBI about how the agency failed to act on tips about a former Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School student who killed 17 people in Parkland last year at his old school.

In the six months before the attack, the FBI received two tips warning that Nikolas Cruz was a school shooter in the making. One tip, phoned in to the FBI’s national call center by someone close to Cruz, offered alarming detail only weeks before the attack but was never forwarded to the FBI’s South Florida field office, as protocol required.

Scott, who was governor of Florida at the time of the Parkland shooting, has repeatedly pressed federal investigators for information about why the tips were mishandled and what the FBI has done to make sure it never happens again. When the FBI first acknowledged the missed tips, Scott demanded unsuccessfully that FBI Director Christopher Wray resign.

Now a U.S. senator, Scott wrote Thursday to Attorney General Bill Barr complaining that the FBI has withheld information from him and the parents of slain students and faculty.

“I urge you to seek answers from Director Wray that have been denied to the victims’ families and make sure these documented failures by his agency will never happen again,” Scott wrote.

A spokeswoman for the FBI wouldn’t comment Friday. The DOJ didn’t respond to a request for comment.

But in a July 30 letter responding to a request for information that Scott made back in April, Jill C. Tyson, the head of the FBI’s office of congressional affairs, explained that there had been some changes made by the agency. She said the agency has improved the call center staffing and improved safeguards to make sure that that all calls related to life-threatening issues and counter-terrorism are reviewed.

But Tyson wouldn’t tell Scott whether anyone had been disciplined as a result of the inaction on the Parkland tips, saying “due to significant privacy implications, the FBI cannot comment on personnel matters.”

Scott ripped Tyson’s explanation in his letter to Barr, saying the information the FBI is refusing to supply could be “a potentially life-saving act of accountability for the agency’s documented failures.”

“While I have the utmost respect for the men and women of the FBI, the agency’s response to my request is very disappointing,” he wrote.

Ryan Petty, whose daughter, Alaina Petty, was killed in the shooting, was among the Parkland parents who met with FBI Deputy Director David Bowdich in December 2018 to discuss what happened and how the FBI has tried to improve since then. He said the families “appreciated the opportunity to speak with the leadership of the FBI to really understand what happened,” but came away frustrated at some of what they heard.

“When I say that many of us left unsatisfied with the actions taken by the FBI, what I mean is that not all of those that were responsible for mishandling the tip [in January] were held accountable for the mistake,” Petty said Friday. “I’m not sure the leadership in the FBI held themselves accountable for it.”

Scott, in his letter Thursday to Barr, noted that the shooter who attacked Pulse nightclub in Orlando in 2016, killing 49 people, had also been on the FBI’s radar, as had the man who killed five people at Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood airport the following year.

“I am sure you agree that these failures are inexcusable, and there must be accountability within the agency to make sure such grave lapses in the FBI’s core investigative function are corrected,” Scott wrote.