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    Sheriff Bob

    As the commission head of Parkland Shooting Investigation, do you believe Peterson should have been criminally charged? Do you believe this should apply to others as well? This is no time to be shy, the entire Countrys Law Enforcement would like to hear your answer. Your a attorney, does Leo's have a duty to sacrifice themselves or not? Does your training unit "teach" scenarios where your deps are required to be killed for the greater good? Under Broward's policy does may and shall mean the same thing? Does setting up a perimeter order by a Captain have anything to do with the Broward deps inaction? Seems like inaction was widespread, almost like they were following a Superior's Orders? Are the new civilian employees at schools that are armed, subject to criminal charges if they dont act? Does this now mean if one of your dep's off duty encounters a armed robbery involving multiple armed subjects in a area crowded with civilians, must act, or be considered a coward and be criminally charged? Never a time when taking no action would be a safer alternative? Never been any training that instructs you to do just that? This new attitude towards making exceptions for officer safety not being the most important priority and defending it publicly, will lead to the public expecting you to get killed, and much harder to defend in the future on any dangerous calls, not just active shooters at schools.

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    Yes.. asking for a friend. Bob.... are you there? Bob?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    As the commission head of Parkland Shooting Investigation, do you believe Peterson should have been criminally charged? Do you believe this should apply to others as well? This is no time to be shy, the entire Countrys Law Enforcement would like to hear your answer. Your a attorney, does Leo's have a duty to sacrifice themselves or not? Does your training unit "teach" scenarios where your deps are required to be killed for the greater good? Under Broward's policy does may and shall mean the same thing? Does setting up a perimeter order by a Captain have anything to do with the Broward deps inaction? Seems like inaction was widespread, almost like they were following a Superior's Orders? Are the new civilian employees at schools that are armed, subject to criminal charges if they dont act? Does this now mean if one of your dep's off duty encounters a armed robbery involving multiple armed subjects in a area crowded with civilians, must act, or be considered a coward and be criminally charged? Never a time when taking no action would be a safer alternative? Never been any training that instructs you to do just that? This new attitude towards making exceptions for officer safety not being the most important priority and defending it publicly, will lead to the public expecting you to get killed, and much harder to defend in the future on any dangerous calls, not just active shooters at schools.
    ďOfficer safety being being the most important priority. ď. You ****ing *****. Please leave now. These were defenseless kids being slaughtered but you are worried about officer safety. Why is your life more important than theirs especially when you have the training and weapons to protect yourself? Iím so glad my kids are out of school and Iím close to retirement so I donít have to work with you cowards.

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    ďOfficer safety being being the most important priority. ď. You ****ing *****. Please leave now. These were defenseless kids being slaughtered but you are worried about officer safety. Why is your life more important than theirs especially when you have the training and weapons to protect yourself? Iím so glad my kids are out of school and Iím close to retirement so I donít have to work with you cowards.
    "Why is your life more important than theirs"

    Hasn't this been the focus of most police training for the last 20 years? Isn't that the focus of "warrior cop" training? Make sure above all that you go home to your family above all else?

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    I'm so brave

    Someone who openly speaks quickly and judges others to be a coward are usually a fraud. The aren't as brave as their false bravado suggests. The only thing they are able to do is make weird sounds and scream in the same scenario that they feel the other person acted cowardly. It is hard to be a hero in the real world. This arrest is just a way to motivate someone to become a hero (dead or alive) and take the active shooter out of commission or face criminal charges and put your life in legal jeopardy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Someone who openly speaks quickly and judges others to be a coward are usually a fraud. The aren't as brave as their false bravado suggests. The only thing they are able to do is make weird sounds and scream in the same scenario that they feel the other person acted cowardly. It is hard to be a hero in the real world. This arrest is just a way to motivate someone to become a hero (dead or alive) and take the active shooter out of commission or face criminal charges and put your life in legal jeopardy.
    I wonder when they will start arresting armed teachers for not risking their lives fast enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Someone who openly speaks quickly and judges others to be a coward are usually a fraud. The aren't as brave as their false bravado suggests. The only thing they are able to do is make weird sounds and scream in the same scenario that they feel the other person acted cowardly. It is hard to be a hero in the real world. This arrest is just a way to motivate someone to become a hero (dead or alive) and take the active shooter out of commission or face criminal charges and put your life in legal jeopardy.
    When you take an oath to be an LEO and you get all the training and stuff, you kind of know what may happen. And when you are standing outside of a building and can see the bullets coming out of the second floor window and you go hide, youíre a coward. Okay, he didnít have to sprint towards the shots, devil may care and all John Wayne. But he could have tactically moved towed the threat. He went the other way. Hw went away from the suspect. He ran from the danger. He abandoned those children to die without doing one god damn thing to help any of them. If thatís not cowardice I donít know what is. And youíre clearly not a cop or you would know what active shooter training dictates. And that lesson was learned at Columbine. The arrest doesnít motivate cops. Itís punishing the cop who lied about his oath and lost his spine. He was complicit in the death of children. He had the ability to end it. He had the training and equipment to do his job. He ran. Thatís where the culpable negligence charge comes from. He was complicit in deaths. And youíre a dumbass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    When you take an oath to be an LEO and you get all the training and stuff, you kind of know what may happen. And when you are standing outside of a building and can see the bullets coming out of the second floor window and you go hide, youíre a coward. Okay, he didnít have to sprint towards the shots, devil may care and all John Wayne. But he could have tactically moved towed the threat. He went the other way. Hw went away from the suspect. He ran from the danger. He abandoned those children to die without doing one god damn thing to help any of them. If thatís not cowardice I donít know what is. And youíre clearly not a cop or you would know what active shooter training dictates. And that lesson was learned at Columbine. The arrest doesnít motivate cops. Itís punishing the cop who lied about his oath and lost his spine. He was complicit in the death of children. He had the ability to end it. He had the training and equipment to do his job. He ran. Thatís where the culpable negligence charge comes from. He was complicit in deaths. And youíre a dumbass.
    The exact same thing happened in Orlando at Pulse. Two officers were inside the building and retreated. Then they staged for hours while the shooter went from victim to victim while command set up and the Dunkin Donuts next door. They heard the shots and did nothing. So why were they called heros?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    When you take an oath to be an LEO and you get all the training and stuff, you kind of know what may happen. And when you are standing outside of a building and can see the bullets coming out of the second floor window and you go hide, youíre a coward. Okay, he didnít have to sprint towards the shots, devil may care and all John Wayne. But he could have tactically moved towed the threat. He went the other way. Hw went away from the suspect. He ran from the danger. He abandoned those children to die without doing one god damn thing to help any of them. If thatís not cowardice I donít know what is. And youíre clearly not a cop or you would know what active shooter training dictates. And that lesson was learned at Columbine. The arrest doesnít motivate cops. Itís punishing the cop who lied about his oath and lost his spine. He was complicit in the death of children. He had the ability to end it. He had the training and equipment to do his job. He ran. Thatís where the culpable negligence charge comes from. He was complicit in deaths. And youíre a dumbass.
    "Itís punishing the cop who lied about his oath"

    Which oath would that be?

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    For those of you emotional divas that think trading your life for children is what this is about, are missing a bigger point here!!!! You are not required to sacrifice yourself to protect others! You may get killed doing this job, it happens everyday, but it is not the result of a policy that compels you to do so. Any policy or training that places your safety secondary is doing just that. You may decide to disregard your safety and put yourself at great risk, and if you do, it should always be your decision. Any policy that takes away your ability to evaluate the situation and compels you to act, no matter what is going on ie, sniper, multiple subjects, etc by design makes your life secondary. This is a radical change from the long standing training and attitude that the goal is to do what you can to protect others, but above all, survive the incident. Here is the disconnect.......Police Administrators no longer are willing to defend the minute or so it takes for multiple officers to arrive on scene, and enter with at least a backup. Every lesser priority call has at least a backup and more often than not, many other units responding. Yet the highest of priority calls, active shooters, compels you to enter without delay, no matter what the situation is..... The three man team concept before entering was designed so that you would have a backup and some tactical principals to rely on. Any Police Administrator that refuses to put your safety first, are the vary ones that are unwilling to take the heat for the time it takes a three man team to arrive and deploy. Your life is not the highest priority, avoiding public scrutiny and satisfying the public mob is. Thanks to this change, the public now thinks that you are required to get killed because police bosses have all but said so. The significance of this should bother the hell out of you. I might get killed doing this job, but I am nobodies sacrificial lamb, we dont trade our lives under any scenario. This must be staunchly defended!!!!!

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