Moran vs Skaggs - termination vs a 24 hour suspension

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LMAO Get triggered much? With that temper you really should not be carrying a gun or a badge.

Hey keyboard master, why do people like you try to turn a two sided argument into just one side being “triggered” or getting mad? It’s a logical fallacy you’re using and has nothing to do with the discussion. Weak minds attack the person, not the topic or points. And then you go all post hoc fallacy that the poster must have a temper and because they were triggered and therefore should not be a cop. LMAO. Say stupid things much? I bet it works great during flame wars on Facebook.

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The Skaggs-Moran comparison has nothing to do with the other incident mentioned by Bob's stooges who have hijacked this discussion to divert attention from the unfair way Bob treats his deputies.

This is an easy lawsuit if Moran wants to challenge his firing as excessive punishment based on the Skaggs precedent. IMO Moran should be reinstated and compensated for what he went through. Great story for the local media too.

IMO and LMAO you are an idiot and we all know who you are. The easy lawsuit is against Moran for kicking an inmate he made do push ups as corporal punishment. Very different that the Skaggs situation. But we know you are too simple to understand that. IMO ands LAMO you are a fking MORON!!!!

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IMO and LMAO you are an idiot and we all know who you are. The easy lawsuit is against Moran for kicking an inmate he made do push ups as corporal punishment. Very different that the Skaggs situation. But we know you are too simple to understand that. IMO ands LAMO you are a fking MORON!!!!

That's a civil suit matter and both are equally guilty if the victims decided to sue them. The difference is that the agency did not fire Skaggs therefore would have defended him in a civil suit while Moran would have to hire legal counsel because he got fired and is on his own.

They both committed battery and lied about it. Skaggs got a slap on the wrist while Moran got fired. Bob plays favorites and issues inconsistent disciplinary actions. That's the problem here.

The Skaggs precedent should have been used by every deputy who was forced to resign or got fired for battery on an inmate/suspect. They are all wrongful terminations. Let's see Bob defend his actions in civil suits and explain why he fired some but covered up for Skaggs and others for the same violations.

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How many of your favorite sheriff's disciplinary decisions have ever been overturned? Name a single one. Just one. I'll wait. Forever. Because you can't. Now **** off back to Uhuru house, Jimmy Boy.

That's hysterical. You should apply to Bob for a position on the General Counsel team. I can see it now:

Ugh, your honor, Sheriff Bob Gulatieri should not be held liable for the alleged wrongful termination of Deputy Moran because none of the deputies he has fired have been reinstated by civil service or the courts. So he must be right in this case too. As far as the precedent disciplinary action Sheriff Bob Gualtieri set in Sergeant Skaggs' battery on a suspect and attempted coverup, well, that's really not relevant to this case since Moran was only a lowly detention deputy and Skaggs was a patrol sergeant.

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How many of your favorite sheriff's disciplinary decisions have ever been overturned? Name a single one. Just one. I'll wait. Forever. Because you can't. Now **** off back to Uhuru house, Jimmy Boy.

Brian Bender, but then again you're probably too young to remember as you were still in diapers.

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Brian Bender, but then again you're probably too young to remember as you were still in diapers.

Wrong Sheriff azzbag. that was not under Sheriff Gualtieri. Liar.

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The Skaggs case is overwhelming and irrefutable evidence that Sheriff Bob Gualtieri is an unfair sheriff who ignores his own General Orders and plays favorites in some cases but issue excessive disciplinary actions and terminations in others, with identical violations.

While Sgt. Skaggs got a slap on the wrist, a measly 24 hour suspension and lateral transfer for battery on a suspect and attempted cover by intentionally not documenting the use of force, others such as Moran, Gee, Hull, Wagner, Kretzer, Starks, etc. who also committed battery on suspects or inmates, were fired. If the Skaggs case is used as a precedent, then these deputies were fired unjustly. Moran just happens to be another wrongful termination on a long list, which shows a pattern. Those politically connected get a free pass while others get much harsher punishments. That is the real Bob Gualtieri, not the fictional heroic sheriff portrayed so magnanimously in carefully managed media articles and press conferences.

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The only difference is when Bob thinks the media will get ahold of the story. Then he takes action.

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The Skaggs case is overwhelming and irrefutable evidence that Sheriff Bob Gualtieri is an unfair sheriff who ignores his own General Orders and plays favorites in some cases but issue excessive disciplinary actions and terminations in others, with identical violations.

While Sgt. Skaggs got a slap on the wrist, a measly 24 hour suspension and lateral transfer for battery on a suspect and attempted cover by intentionally not documenting the use of force, others such as Moran, Gee, Hull, Wagner, Kretzer, Starks, etc. who also committed battery on suspects or inmates, were fired. If the Skaggs case is used as a precedent, then these deputies were fired unjustly. Moran just happens to be another wrongful termination on a long list, which shows a pattern. Those politically connected get a free pass while others get much harsher punishments. That is the real Bob Gualtieri, not the fictional heroic sheriff portrayed so magnanimously in carefully managed media articles and press conferences.

You must one in the Level 5 Club. If you think Howie Skaggs is “politically connected” then you are buffone, idiot, moron and just plain stupid. Or you are JML and just making crap up as you go. If really are a scum bag that works here then bring on an appeal. If it is so wrong where is the appeal and all these lawsuits you talk about. Oh yea They don’t exist because this is all a bunch of bullshtz.

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You must one in the Level 5 Club. If you think Howie Skaggs is “politically connected” then you are buffone, idiot, moron and just plain stupid. Or you are JML and just making crap up as you go. If really are a scum bag that works here then bring on an appeal. If it is so wrong where is the appeal and all these lawsuits you talk about. Oh yea They don’t exist because this is all a bunch of bullshtz.

The people who got fired and others did not get fair hearings like Sgt. Skaggs got. And appropriate punishments like Skaggs got. None of them appealed the sheriff's decisions for personal reasons but that does not make their terminations fair and just, as the evidence clearly shows.