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05-18-2019, 08:09 AM #11UnregisteredGuest
Bob's General Counsel should read up on Warren v. The District of Columbia, DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services, and Castle Rock v. Gonzales. These decisions confirm that LEOs are under no obligation to protect citizens from criminals. Therefore the agency's policy is in violation of the US Supreme Court decisions. If Bob fires a deputy for failing to act, let's say in school shooting, the deputy can file a lawsuit based on these precedents and win.
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05-18-2019, 10:37 AM #12UnregisteredGuest
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05-18-2019, 11:59 AM #13
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05-18-2019, 02:01 PM #14UnregisteredGuest
Why have backups on any calls? If you are ordered to enter without a backup on the highest of priority calls.....then lesser calls should be a piece of cake. Like it has been pointed out, schools are not the only place these things happen at. No call should be a higher priority than your safety. One size fits all policy with zero discretion no matter whats happening is one of the problems with this. Many of us would go above and beyond when it comes to school kids. If we made that choice and got killed, it was done willingly. The bigger point here is we are not expected by law to sacrifice ourselves. Getting killed doing this job has never been a policy requirement. Whats next, domestics, crazy people with firearms, etc. The historic precedent of this policy is your now expected to potentially sacrifice your self which is a dramatic departure from all other training you have received.
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05-18-2019, 06:07 PM #15UnregisteredGuest
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05-18-2019, 07:56 PM #16UnregisteredGuest
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05-19-2019, 05:07 AM #17UnregisteredGuest
Go ahead and be a coward and hide, freeze or run during an active shooter. You will be fired. You will lose your certification. You will be sued in federal and state court. There may be some case law against some events, but no event is the same. First you gave your conscience, good luck living with that. Then you gave your fellow LEO’s who will hate you for the rest of your life. Third your family, they will be embarrassed of you forever. Fourth the public will want to hang you. Fifth the media will haunt you. Sixth your job is gone and no agency will want you. At that point will a lawsuit make your life any worse? Maybe.
You are trained and equipped to respond to these rare events in a very specific manner. Good luck taking the coward’s path. I would be shocked if Peterson commits suicide.
If we lacked the training, the policies and the equipment I would say your line of thinking may have some merit. But that’s not reality.
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05-19-2019, 11:20 AM #18UnregisteredGuest
There is a BIG difference between a legal obligation that you can be sued for and just doing the right fking thing. If you think for a second that if you dont go in to a AS situation that this Sheriff will not fire your azz in heatbeat then you are dumb as dumbs is. He is has made it as clear as clear can be. If you dont want to do the job then get the fk out!!!! We got more equipment and more training then any other agency around and if you dont want to do what you signed up to do then quit. And the for the stupid azz bags comparing a AS situation to other BS calls then you are either a complete dumb azz which is very possible with your GED or you are just a pot stirrer which is also possible. Either way DO YOUR FKING JOB or QUIT.
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05-19-2019, 09:07 PM #19UnregisteredGuest
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05-19-2019, 09:39 PM #20UnregisteredGuest
Bottom line is that Sheriff Israel, the DA, the Florida AG, FDLE, etc. couldn't do squat to Peterson because he acted within the law. Even if he had not retired, had he been fired, he would have sued the pants off Israel and got paid big $$$ and his job back, if he wanted it. He probably would have taken the $$$ and ran from a corrupt and inept agency like Broward. Peterson came out the winner and Israel was booted out as sheriff despite Bob's attempted coverup. But you guys go ahead and play hero so you can keep your jobs with Bob.
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