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  1. #71
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    The current unwritten policy is just fine for those who like to party or need a little help at the gym. Don't change anything.
    Do you remember that oath that you took to uphold the law? If so, why are you out there violating it? Do you really think that the laws of the land do not apply to you? Are you just an outlaw with a badge? Good for the public to know. Especially when you arrest someone for using illicit drugs and using steroids for a little help at the gym. What a bunch of idiots. Go right ahead and dump a $1.5 million career just to get high on illicit drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Do you remember that oath that you took to uphold the law? If so, why are you out there violating it? Do you really think that the laws of the land do not apply to you? Are you just an outlaw with a badge? Good for the public to know. Especially when you arrest someone for using illicit drugs and using steroids for a little help at the gym. What a bunch of idiots. Go right ahead and dump a $1.5 million career just to get high on illicit drugs.
    Not a single member has ever been fired for drug, alcohol or steroid abuse. Just don't get a DUI or refuse to test, then you are gone instantly.

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    Over the years, people have been let go for alcohol and drugs, don't know about steroids, one idiot came forward wanting help for his cocaine addiction after he was seen partaking at a party with civilians.........needless to say he was fired! Yes DUI is a automatic termination........but you know that so if you get caught it should be no surprise to you. My biggest problem about this issue, is there are many with their little habits that will never be weeded out unless they do something to bring attention to themselves. Periodic and random drug testing should be on the table, to keep people from never knowing if and when they could be tested. This would reduce a lot of usage if there was the real possibility that you could be tested and lose your career if your dirty.

  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Not a single member has ever been fired for drug, alcohol or steroid abuse. Just don't get a DUI or refuse to test, then you are gone instantly.
    So what? It is against the law, in the US, to possess marijuana, prescription drugs without a script and hard drugs. Being a member of the elite PCSO, you know that. And the common folk get arrested in PC all the time for smple possession. But, for some reason PCSO deputies beieve that they are above the law and that it does not apply to them. Got it. Nice to know that there is a two-tiered justice system in that county. What is next for PCSO deputies; robbery, rape, MURDER? The people want to know.

  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    So what? It is against the law, in the US, to possess marijuana, prescription drugs without a script and hard drugs. Being a member of the elite PCSO, you know that. And the common folk get arrested in PC all the time for smple possession. But, for some reason PCSO deputies beieve that they are above the law and that it does not apply to them. Got it. Nice to know that there is a two-tiered justice system in that county. What is next for PCSO deputies; robbery, rape, MURDER? The people want to know.
    A law is only as good as its enforcement. Marijuana today is like booze was in the years of Prohibition. Eventually they made it legal because the public demanded it and it wasted too much LEO resources. The end of Prohibition ended the organized crime syndicates which controlled the illegal booze business.

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    Even if it becomes 100% legal, its still not going to be permitted. Nicotine is legal, yet you can be fired for testing positive under current policy. The need for random testing will almost be a necessity in the future. Florida employers still retain the right to prohibit employees from using while under their employment. DUI is against the law, and we all know it, yet a handful of people every year get fired for it. Its gonna take a few people getting fired for testing positive for marijuana before employees will realize that their putting their careers at stake. A policy of the potential of random drug testing will get most to clean up, for the others, watching people getting fired should get their attention. If not, shame on you for something you know a head of time that will get you fired and you still do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    A law is only as good as its enforcement. Marijuana today is like booze was in the years of Prohibition. Eventually they made it legal because the public demanded it and it wasted too much LEO resources. The end of Prohibition ended the organized crime syndicates which controlled the illegal booze business.
    Sorry, but the law is the LAW. Don't like it then change it. YOU SWORE to abide by and uphold the laws of the county, state and nation; not decide which apply to you and which do not. If you want to be an outlaw, then you are in the wrong profession.

    Now, about Prohibition. Humanity has been using recreational chemicals for millennia. But, as society evolves, we find that unregulated use of these chemicals have a negative impact on society. That is why we have a whole slew of laws governing disorderly intoxication, DUI, etc. Do you have any idea how much society, the public, spends on the problems associated with alcohol use, in this country? It is staggering. How much LE time is spent dealing with alcohol related crimes and disturbances? How many lives are lost or destroyed by the use of alcohol use? We are stuck with the problems derived from excessive alcohol use, because the "public" demanded it's use be legalized. And, that is why narcotics and drugs like cocaine and marijuana are seriously restricted, even though a little over 100 years ago, people could buy heroin, cocaine and weed over the counter in this country. The argument that the public wants to use marijuana is fatally flawed. By that reasoning, the "public" also wants to use heroin, fentanyl, Oxycontin, cocaine, etc. Should those be legalized for recreational use, simply because some segment of the public wants to use them? And, the Rum running gangs of Prohibition did not disappear when alcohol was legalized again. They went into other "service" trades, such as gambling, prostitution, drug dealing and unions.

    Now, so far, there has been no well documented medical use for THC, the active ingredient in marijuana. When such a medical use is determined, then it can be prescribed just like any other prescription drug. But, it will still be abused by people, beccause that is what people do. It just makes it more difficult for large numbers of people to abuse it.

    But the bottom line to this whole debate is that the possession of marijuana is illegal under federal law. LEOs, including the men and women of PCSO, swore to abide by and uphold the law. So, they can not really justify breaking the law for their own personal benefit, can they?

  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Sorry, but the law is the LAW. Don't like it then change it. YOU SWORE to abide by and uphold the laws of the county, state and nation; not decide which apply to you and which do not. If you want to be an outlaw, then you are in the wrong profession.

    Now, about Prohibition. Humanity has been using recreational chemicals for millennia. But, as society evolves, we find that unregulated use of these chemicals have a negative impact on society. That is why we have a whole slew of laws governing disorderly intoxication, DUI, etc. Do you have any idea how much society, the public, spends on the problems associated with alcohol use, in this country? It is staggering. How much LE time is spent dealing with alcohol related crimes and disturbances? How many lives are lost or destroyed by the use of alcohol use? We are stuck with the problems derived from excessive alcohol use, because the "public" demanded it's use be legalized. And, that is why narcotics and drugs like cocaine and marijuana are seriously restricted, even though a little over 100 years ago, people could buy heroin, cocaine and weed over the counter in this country. The argument that the public wants to use marijuana is fatally flawed. By that reasoning, the "public" also wants to use heroin, fentanyl, Oxycontin, cocaine, etc. Should those be legalized for recreational use, simply because some segment of the public wants to use them? And, the Rum running gangs of Prohibition did not disappear when alcohol was legalized again. They went into other "service" trades, such as gambling, prostitution, drug dealing and unions.

    Now, so far, there has been no well documented medical use for THC, the active ingredient in marijuana. When such a medical use is determined, then it can be prescribed just like any other prescription drug. But, it will still be abused by people, beccause that is what people do. It just makes it more difficult for large numbers of people to abuse it.

    But the bottom line to this whole debate is that the possession of marijuana is illegal under federal law. LEOs, including the men and women of PCSO, swore to abide by and uphold the law. So, they can not really justify breaking the law for their own personal benefit, can they?
    Good cry, bro?

  9. #79
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    Marijuana can stay in your system around 60days or so. Start a random drug policy and don't implement it for three or four months. If you were, you have time to clean up. After that, to bad if you test dirty, that would be on you.

  10. #80
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    police departments across the country are one lawsuit away from implementing some sort of policy for officers that may want to use it in the future.

    a lot of the medical issues it's being used to treat are alive and booming in our profession. it'll happen sooner or later.

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