Trouble at the jail

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ABC news reporting four additional Deputies suspended. Come on fellows grow up.

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https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/r...iating-inmates

Note that most of the disciplinary actions were tacitly acceptable by jail supervisors who monitored the video cameras and were aware of them. Some inmate who was released went formal with the complaint downtown and then it was CYA time for the jail supervisors who were in on this.

The "Meet the Stars" video featuring Deputy Jordan Jr is still up on YouTube, LOL! Half the people featured on the promotional videos were either fired, resigned or were/are major f***ups or head cases.

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You all just keep shooting unarmed, cuffed subjects or letting them escape. Leave the jail stuff to the jail.

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You all just keep shooting unarmed, cuffed subjects or letting them escape. Leave the jail stuff to the jail.

You’re so funny! Did you learn this humor in the military also?

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Better get it in writing with a signature when a supervisor tells you to administer "alternative" disciplinary action in order to save time on reports, DRs, CCs or loss of good time. Since "alternative" disciplinary action is not in the GOs if you go with it per verbal orders or suggestions you will be the sacrificial lamb when an inmate files a formal complaint. Your COC will suddenly lose its memory of any discussions with you regarding "alternative" disciplinary actions. But your COC will have no problem finding the incident on video and sending it to IAD to hang you. Deny, deny, deny and shift the blame solely on subordinates, that is their standard MO.

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If you need to discipline an inmate there are ways to do it. If you try to generate paperwork, there is a majority of supervisors who make it seem like you have committed a sin. If you do anything off the books they appreciate if it avoids a report. However, later it will cause you some serious disciplinary problems if the inmate gets offended or their feeling are hurt. Do what you need to do to keep your job. Call your supervisor ask for direction and if they refuse to formally discipline an inmate make a note in your logbook (remember they check those all the time to burn staff). The line staff is held accountable for so much more than supervisors. Start making those who achieve rank learn to do a working position. Call the corporal is always a good way to get things started. Let them handle it. Don't risk yourself. No matter what you do it will be viewed as wrongful if the inmate complains.

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If you need to discipline an inmate there are ways to do it. If you try to generate paperwork, there is a majority of supervisors who make it seem like you have committed a sin. If you do anything off the books they appreciate if it avoids a report. However, later it will cause you some serious disciplinary problems if the inmate gets offended or their feeling are hurt. Do what you need to do to keep your job. Call your supervisor ask for direction and if they refuse to formally discipline an inmate make a note in your logbook (remember they check those all the time to burn staff). The line staff is held accountable for so much more than supervisors. Start making those who achieve rank learn to do a working position. Call the corporal is always a good way to get things started. Let them handle it. Don't risk yourself. No matter what you do it will be viewed as wrongful if the inmate complains.

Oh stop, make a decision for yourself. We have a large manual that you can sit down and read between 15 minute checks (if you actually do them) that outlines what you can and can’t do. If it’s not in policy don’t do it, if it is, then have at it. If a supervisor gets mad about doing minimal work then so be it. They will never win that battle. The job is not that hard, very frustrating at times, but not hard. Yes, they may be scumbags and likely are, but who are you to tape stuff on their back and parade them around or do push-ups. The minimum requirements of being an inmate is they have to be there and follow the rules, if they refuse to work then go after their good/gain time. We get paid a lot of money to be professionals, don’t let a scumbag inmate take that from you.

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If you need to discipline an inmate there are ways to do it. If you try to generate paperwork, there is a majority of supervisors who make it seem like you have committed a sin. If you do anything off the books they appreciate if it avoids a report. However, later it will cause you some serious disciplinary problems if the inmate gets offended or their feeling are hurt. Do what you need to do to keep your job. Call your supervisor ask for direction and if they refuse to formally discipline an inmate make a note in your logbook (remember they check those all the time to burn staff). The line staff is held accountable for so much more than supervisors. Start making those who achieve rank learn to do a working position. Call the corporal is always a good way to get things started. Let them handle it. Don't risk yourself. No matter what you do it will be viewed as wrongful if the inmate complains.

The excessive micro-management has taken personal initiative and discretion away from the floor deputies. Before initiating any disciplinary action call the corporal or the sergeant and let them determine what should be done. Then document everything in the log book, especially if the supervisor orders an alternative punishment. Always CYA because nobody will back you up when inmates file complaints.

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Oh stop, make a decision for yourself. We have a large manual that you can sit down and read between 15 minute checks (if you actually do them) that outlines what you can and can’t do. If it’s not in policy don’t do it, if it is, then have at it. If a supervisor gets mad about doing minimal work then so be it. They will never win that battle. The job is not that hard, very frustrating at times, but not hard. Yes, they may be scumbags and likely are, but who are you to tape stuff on their back and parade them around or do push-ups. The minimum requirements of being an inmate is they have to be there and follow the rules, if they refuse to work then go after their good/gain time. We get paid a lot of money to be professionals, don’t let a scumbag inmate take that from you.

You have it backwards - Jordan, Rowe, Moran and McNeil made decisions but the COC did not back them up when inmates formally complained. Even though the COC recommended and encouraged alternative disciplinary action for many years. When the time came to back up the deputies the COC folded like a cheap Chinese suit and refused to take any responsibility for its actions. Let that be a lesson to all deputies who want to think and make decisions - don't don't it because the COC will cut you off at the knees when the chips are down.

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When the hell are you azzes going to grow up!!! We are not Doctors!!! But ,we are drunks[three stooges}inmate beaters because thats how we show who is boss,fabricate reports to match our stories,etc,etc,etc!!!! Bob tries so hard to keep the public from finding out. So, if report didnt come from him it just plain did not happen !!! Keep dreaming Bob,your slowly becoming uncovered.