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    Correct; and these facts are more good reasons to apply to a city police department outside of BSO. How many of these contract cities will re-contract with a policy that states "may" enter? It's political suicide for many. Expect the contracted cities to go down like dominoes. BSO policy is not safety oriented and the "leader" is a nut job.
    If the Broward Commission were smart, They would create a county police department. Leave BSO with the budget for the Jail, Civil, and CI and turn over the budget for all other non-constitutional LE activities to the County Police Department.

    It becomes a way to strip the "constitutional officer" of the power recently granted by the refferendum.

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    Dude, "encumbered" means money already obligated (i.e. spent). It is returned to county (as required by law) then returned back to BSO in the next budget to cover the bill when it arrives in the next budget year. Its a way to zero out the books each year.

    This is Budget 101. A fact the Commission knows but somebody forgot to tell JB.

    The hearing was downright embarassing. Our people obviously have little understanding of the process. It was like going to criminal court with a self taught jail house lawyer. Feel good that we fought and stood up to management, but lets not lose site of the fact that our union failed to make a single valid point. In fact, the request for impass was legally defective in that he never included a request for a raise. WTF???
    Legally defective but the reason for impasse was not a secret. It’s a moot point that it wasn’t included in paperwork. A technicality that just allowed these trashy unethical democrats to come up with a new excuse not to pay us. I’ve lost all respect for the democrat leadership in Broward County, they are the most unethical dishonest group of people I’ve ever seen.

    The democrat party is the reason for the failures of this county from top to bottom. Until the voters in this county get fed up with the utter and complete incompetence of the democrat party, this county will continue its steep decline until it looks exactly like Baltimore or Chicago. Once that happens, anyone who can afford to get out, will get out. Democrats destroyed Detroit, and now they are destroying Broward County.

    A hundred million back is not zeroing out he books unless every dime of that surplus comes back, which we all know is not the case. Everything the democrats do is a lie.

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    Cant remember when the PBA got us 3%....they would roll over on their back and tell us we will never get any better than 2%.....PBA GFY!
    The PBA got us a 15% raise over 3 years back in the 07-10 contract. A 3, 3 and 3 with the 4% first responder and 2% at 20 years of service. Then the bad years hit and everybody got 2s until now.

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    The PBA got us a 15% raise over 3 years back in the 07-10 contract. A 3, 3 and 3 with the 4% first responder and 2% at 20 years of service. Then the bad years hit and everybody got 2s until now.
    Hey the last two contracts we had with the PBA were 0% 0% 0% and then 2% 2% 0%

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    Hey the last two contracts we had with the PBA were 0% 0% 0% and then 2% 2% 0%
    That is a blatant IUPA lie. I started under Navarro and there was never a Time that any bargaining unit got 0%, 0%, 0%. I have every contract going back to 1990. Please tell me which contract years that occurred. There was one year that every represented and unrepresented employees had their step Frozen and a 0% Cola.

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    Hey the last two contracts we had with the PBA were 0% 0% 0% and then 2% 2% 0%
    Nice try, Bellsworth. Tick to k on your job you useless, self righteous twat

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    That is a blatant IUPA lie. I started under Navarro and there was never a Time that any bargaining unit got 0%, 0%, 0%. I have every contract going back to 1990. Please tell me which contract years that occurred. There was one year that every represented and unrepresented employees had their step Frozen and a 0% Cola.
    WTF? Fact checking is easy and here it is. PBA if you want our vote DO NOT LIE! The PBA raises were:

    2007 = 0%
    2008 = 3%
    2009 = 3%
    2010 = 0%
    2011 = 0%
    2012 = 0%
    2013 = 2%
    2014 = 2%

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    WTF? Fact checking is easy and here it is. PBA if you want our vote DO NOT LIE! The PBA raises were:

    2007 = 0%
    2008 = 3%
    2009 = 3%
    2010 = 0%
    2011 = 0%
    2012 = 0%
    2013 = 2%
    2014 = 2%
    Exactly, the PBA sucked. They never fought for the membership (EVER) they would roll over and tell the membership that’s the best you will get just take it!!! Yeah we took it all right.....right up the A$$ for years....But NO MORE!!

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    Legally defective but the reason for impasse was not a secret. It’s a moot point that it wasn’t included in paperwork. A technicality that just allowed these trashy unethical democrats to come up with a new excuse not to pay us. I’ve lost all respect for the democrat leadership in Broward County, they are the most unethical dishonest group of people I’ve ever seen.

    The democrat party is the reason for the failures of this county from top to bottom. Until the voters in this county get fed up with the utter and complete incompetence of the democrat party, this county will continue its steep decline until it looks exactly like Baltimore or Chicago. Once that happens, anyone who can afford to get out, will get out. Democrats destroyed Detroit, and now they are destroying Broward County.

    A hundred million back is not zeroing out he books unless every dime of that surplus comes back, which we all know is not the case. Everything the democrats do is a lie.
    Encumbered money is obligated and carried forward to the next year to cover the bill. It's not surplus. The last pay check of the year is carried over. But since it includes OT, the amount is unknown until the books close. Roll over stopped about four years ago.

    Same rules apply to Republican and Democrates.

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    Well we found out today how much the Sheriff and county commissioners value us. The problem is as long as this current Sheriff is here we will not get anymore then we just got because the Jail has to get more then us for at least the next 3 contract to achieve parity.
    The thing I don’t understand is why do we need parity when we do different jobs.
    The Sheriff’s attorney pointed out several times that we are the only bargaining unit that gets the 4% first responder pay. I am thinking that is probably because we are the only first responders. The Sheriffs attorney also pointed out with an attitude how we have road Deputies in specialized units that get a pay supplement usually $75 a check.
    Well a homicide detective, swat guy, K9 ect. Deserve a little extra. The Sheriff and his attorneys seem to think a jail deputy should make the same as a homicide detective???
    Jail deputies have a tough job and I am not saying they don’t deserve a raise I just don’t understand how the Sheriff thinks all 6000 plus employees here should get the same when we do different jobs.

    Thank you Jeff Bell and IUPA for fighting for us and not just accepting this offer without a fight. The PBA would have rolled over for a new Tahoe. At least we exposed the Sheriff returning nearly $100 million dollars to the commissioners who I am guessing over pay so they can get the kick back and use that money for pet projects with much less accountability to the tax payers.
    I work in the jail, I am fine with not being called a "first responder"...except that I get called out in a hurricane, to work. Kepp your first responder pay, and you clowns can work the jail in a hurricane, how is that? I know i'd rather be home

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