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  1. #21
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    Whatever works

  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Better read the SOPs, stupid. If you complain to the wrong citizen and they make a call, your azz will be in IA getting disciplined. There is a specific rule about disparaging the agency. Keep it up, whiner, and you'll have bigger problems than crying about missing 40.
    I'm not the person you're replying to... but I'm compelled to tell you to that your vague attempt at threatening an anonymous poster is completely pathetic.

    It's not disparaging to say that we are understaffed. It's the truth and even the agency has come out publicly and said we needs more deputies on the streets.

    You're not scaring anyone...

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    Yes we needs more deps!

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    The problem is way deeper than just needing more deps. The agency blames the shortage on everything but itself. People leave here prematurely all the time causing the massive shortage. They leave because they see that a career here can not be sustained mentally and emotionally long term. No matter how physically fit and healthy you are. It wont matter how many people you hire, it will not fix the problem if they mostly leave. Fix the leak. The problem mainly exists where new people are assigned first. Partrol. Not to mention seasoned employees jumping ship years early from a nice retirement due to even deeper issues. It is a political game. You will find that there will never be a shortage on certain positions, equipment, buildings, vehicles, CSA’s and secretaries, and so on for particular units or certain commanding officers. However, areas of low priority lack staffing and support. Those same areas, such as patrol and some low priority detective units. Notice how these are the units where employees are sent to when punished. Here is a test to determine priority of an area of assignment. if a major’s or chief’s son or daughter got hired here, would they be sent to that unit? If so, would they remain there for many years? Funny how staffing shortages only occur where the fast trackers are not assigned. Funny how we have enough people to wash a major’s car, yet a patrol squad is mandated to function with 4 units instead of the required 12 . If anyone that works here or had worked here tells you how much they love or how they loved every second of this job, ask them where they have been assigned for the past or last 5 years and ask them how long they were on patrol when they first started. Take note of their answers. Compare it to the answer from someone who has long since burned out. Take note of employees that managed to work here over 30 years even up to 40 years? Where were they assigned? Patrol? Detective? Or somewhere sustainable getting their memos written for them and car washed for them? So they think the solution for this problem is to creat a comity and delegate the problem to figure it out. Like our last comity created to determine the reason why deputies were leaving in large numbers prior to their second year. That comity reported to the sheriff a fake reason why we were too short handed because they were too aftaid to tell him that people were leaving because they were miserable. Funny how what deputies say to their bosses just before quitting and during exit interviews never makes it up the chain. I personally seen a hard working ex dep tell his cpl and captain exactly why he was leaving. In the end, that captain advised us in roll call that that dep left because he did not have the heart to work here. He was a hard worker. working a zone alone for a year that used to be staffed by 3 deputies. He burned out in one year. That is just one example of about 10 hard working partnes that I knew personally that have left. Did our 10 year LT quit? What about our 8 year plant city mafia cpl? How about that deputy connected to a LT that made AI afer less that 2 years on the road? Or that LT’s son that went to a DUI unit after less that 2 years on patrol. Do you think they will be quitting soon or retire early? How did they progress without at least putting in time as an FTO for 3 years minimum like most of us were fooled into doing? These staffing shortages are also to save money for political moves. The agency is provided with a budget ahead of time for the amount of deputies we are supposed to have. Where does that money go? Toys for SWAT? D5? One more district for more money, less deputies on the street. Also, im sure somebody somewhere is getting somekind of credit or kickback for being able to run a district by use of less officers. What they do not think of is longevity. How can this be sustained? Can a human being endure this on the street for 30 years? And they wonder why cops make mistakes? Is the answer really to come to work and give it 300% in order to get noticed and be transferred off patrol in order to survive? What if that does not work out? Now you have officers that burned out 20 years early due to giving it eveything he/she had for 5-10 years? This job should be sustainable. Make patrol better. Our deputies need support. Mentally and emotionally. NOT the fancy cars, money, and equipment. This mentality holds true in any relationship. Spouses, parents, and especially leaders. Our problems are the result of Neanderthal type-A narcissists that care only about their next political move and progress, liability, and money. All while being advised by lawyers, accountants, and business men for guidance. While refusing to listen to their workers. The worker bees are absolutly not on the agenda. That is why wasted efforts and burnout cause employees to do the absolute minimum required. That defense mechanism mentality is created by a company. Speaking truthes is not slander. So keep riding the gravy train HCSO blowing money on political moves and toys instead of staffing. When you finally look down at your people, you will see what you turned them in to. New cars and new guns and more money wont fix it. You will actually have to do it the hard way and treat them like humans. Pay attention. Listen to them. Don't worry about the patrol car decals and uniform designs. We have way bigger issue. Start with staffing patrol based on population, business volume, and call volume, not just call volume alone. You have turned us into reactive report writers. The cop mentality has long since been allowed to die. Because of this, you see the decay and crime problems spreading out of the city and into our areas that were once peaceful and safe. Shame on you HCSO.

  5. #25
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    Excellent summary. It won't make anything change, or get the other guy elected, but still excellent.

  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    The problem is way deeper than just needing more deps. The agency blames the shortage on everything but itself. People leave here prematurely all the time causing the massive shortage. They leave because they see that a career here can not be sustained mentally and emotionally long term. No matter how physically fit and healthy you are. It wont matter how many people you hire, it will not fix the problem if they mostly leave. Fix the leak. The problem mainly exists where new people are assigned first. Partrol. Not to mention seasoned employees jumping ship years early from a nice retirement due to even deeper issues. It is a political game. You will find that there will never be a shortage on certain positions, equipment, buildings, vehicles, CSA’s and secretaries, and so on for particular units or certain commanding officers. However, areas of low priority lack staffing and support. Those same areas, such as patrol and some low priority detective units. Notice how these are the units where employees are sent to when punished. Here is a test to determine priority of an area of assignment. if a major’s or chief’s son or daughter got hired here, would they be sent to that unit? If so, would they remain there for many years? Funny how staffing shortages only occur where the fast trackers are not assigned. Funny how we have enough people to wash a major’s car, yet a patrol squad is mandated to function with 4 units instead of the required 12 . If anyone that works here or had worked here tells you how much they love or how they loved every second of this job, ask them where they have been assigned for the past or last 5 years and ask them how long they were on patrol when they first started. Take note of their answers. Compare it to the answer from someone who has long since burned out. Take note of employees that managed to work here over 30 years even up to 40 years? Where were they assigned? Patrol? Detective? Or somewhere sustainable getting their memos written for them and car washed for them? So they think the solution for this problem is to creat a comity and delegate the problem to figure it out. Like our last comity created to determine the reason why deputies were leaving in large numbers prior to their second year. That comity reported to the sheriff a fake reason why we were too short handed because they were too aftaid to tell him that people were leaving because they were miserable. Funny how what deputies say to their bosses just before quitting and during exit interviews never makes it up the chain. I personally seen a hard working ex dep tell his cpl and captain exactly why he was leaving. In the end, that captain advised us in roll call that that dep left because he did not have the heart to work here. He was a hard worker. working a zone alone for a year that used to be staffed by 3 deputies. He burned out in one year. That is just one example of about 10 hard working partnes that I knew personally that have left. Did our 10 year LT quit? What about our 8 year plant city mafia cpl? How about that deputy connected to a LT that made AI afer less that 2 years on the road? Or that LT’s son that went to a DUI unit after less that 2 years on patrol. Do you think they will be quitting soon or retire early? How did they progress without at least putting in time as an FTO for 3 years minimum like most of us were fooled into doing? These staffing shortages are also to save money for political moves. The agency is provided with a budget ahead of time for the amount of deputies we are supposed to have. Where does that money go? Toys for SWAT? D5? One more district for more money, less deputies on the street. Also, im sure somebody somewhere is getting somekind of credit or kickback for being able to run a district by use of less officers. What they do not think of is longevity. How can this be sustained? Can a human being endure this on the street for 30 years? And they wonder why cops make mistakes? Is the answer really to come to work and give it 300% in order to get noticed and be transferred off patrol in order to survive? What if that does not work out? Now you have officers that burned out 20 years early due to giving it eveything he/she had for 5-10 years? This job should be sustainable. Make patrol better. Our deputies need support. Mentally and emotionally. NOT the fancy cars, money, and equipment. This mentality holds true in any relationship. Spouses, parents, and especially leaders. Our problems are the result of Neanderthal type-A narcissists that care only about their next political move and progress, liability, and money. All while being advised by lawyers, accountants, and business men for guidance. While refusing to listen to their workers. The worker bees are absolutly not on the agenda. That is why wasted efforts and burnout cause employees to do the absolute minimum required. That defense mechanism mentality is created by a company. Speaking truthes is not slander. So keep riding the gravy train HCSO blowing money on political moves and toys instead of staffing. When you finally look down at your people, you will see what you turned them in to. New cars and new guns and more money wont fix it. You will actually have to do it the hard way and treat them like humans. Pay attention. Listen to them. Don't worry about the patrol car decals and uniform designs. We have way bigger issue. Start with staffing patrol based on population, business volume, and call volume, not just call volume alone. You have turned us into reactive report writers. The cop mentality has long since been allowed to die. Because of this, you see the decay and crime problems spreading out of the city and into our areas that were once peaceful and safe. Shame on you HCSO.
    When you write "comity", do you mean "committee"? No wonder you're a lifelong bottom-feeder whose opinion is not valued.

  7. #27
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    LOL. A person that spells “committee” “comity” multiple times shouldn’t be giving any lectures. It really escapes you why you haven’t advanced? Much like your paragraphs; you talent is nonexistent.

  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    LOL. A person that spells “committee” “comity” multiple times shouldn’t be giving any lectures. It really escapes you why you haven’t advanced? Much like your paragraphs; you talent is nonexistent.
    ***your talent**** Dang, your dumbness almost splashed on me. I got to hang around more intelligent people lol.

  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    The problem is way deeper than just needing more deps. The agency blames the shortage on everything but itself. People leave here prematurely all the time causing the massive shortage. They leave because they see that a career here can not be sustained mentally and emotionally long term. No matter how physically fit and healthy you are. It wont matter how many people you hire, it will not fix the problem if they mostly leave. Fix the leak. The problem mainly exists where new people are assigned first. Partrol. Not to mention seasoned employees jumping ship years early from a nice retirement due to even deeper issues. It is a political game. You will find that there will never be a shortage on certain positions, equipment, buildings, vehicles, CSA’s and secretaries, and so on for particular units or certain commanding officers. However, areas of low priority lack staffing and support. Those same areas, such as patrol and some low priority detective units. Notice how these are the units where employees are sent to when punished. Here is a test to determine priority of an area of assignment. if a major’s or chief’s son or daughter got hired here, would they be sent to that unit? If so, would they remain there for many years? Funny how staffing shortages only occur where the fast trackers are not assigned. Funny how we have enough people to wash a major’s car, yet a patrol squad is mandated to function with 4 units instead of the required 12 . If anyone that works here or had worked here tells you how much they love or how they loved every second of this job, ask them where they have been assigned for the past or last 5 years and ask them how long they were on patrol when they first started. Take note of their answers. Compare it to the answer from someone who has long since burned out. Take note of employees that managed to work here over 30 years even up to 40 years? Where were they assigned? Patrol? Detective? Or somewhere sustainable getting their memos written for them and car washed for them? So they think the solution for this problem is to creat a comity and delegate the problem to figure it out. Like our last comity created to determine the reason why deputies were leaving in large numbers prior to their second year. That comity reported to the sheriff a fake reason why we were too short handed because they were too aftaid to tell him that people were leaving because they were miserable. Funny how what deputies say to their bosses just before quitting and during exit interviews never makes it up the chain. I personally seen a hard working ex dep tell his cpl and captain exactly why he was leaving. In the end, that captain advised us in roll call that that dep left because he did not have the heart to work here. He was a hard worker. working a zone alone for a year that used to be staffed by 3 deputies. He burned out in one year. That is just one example of about 10 hard working partnes that I knew personally that have left. Did our 10 year LT quit? What about our 8 year plant city mafia cpl? How about that deputy connected to a LT that made AI afer less that 2 years on the road? Or that LT’s son that went to a DUI unit after less that 2 years on patrol. Do you think they will be quitting soon or retire early? How did they progress without at least putting in time as an FTO for 3 years minimum like most of us were fooled into doing? These staffing shortages are also to save money for political moves. The agency is provided with a budget ahead of time for the amount of deputies we are supposed to have. Where does that money go? Toys for SWAT? D5? One more district for more money, less deputies on the street. Also, im sure somebody somewhere is getting somekind of credit or kickback for being able to run a district by use of less officers. What they do not think of is longevity. How can this be sustained? Can a human being endure this on the street for 30 years? And they wonder why cops make mistakes? Is the answer really to come to work and give it 300% in order to get noticed and be transferred off patrol in order to survive? What if that does not work out? Now you have officers that burned out 20 years early due to giving it eveything he/she had for 5-10 years? This job should be sustainable. Make patrol better. Our deputies need support. Mentally and emotionally. NOT the fancy cars, money, and equipment. This mentality holds true in any relationship. Spouses, parents, and especially leaders. Our problems are the result of Neanderthal type-A narcissists that care only about their next political move and progress, liability, and money. All while being advised by lawyers, accountants, and business men for guidance. While refusing to listen to their workers. The worker bees are absolutly not on the agenda. That is why wasted efforts and burnout cause employees to do the absolute minimum required. That defense mechanism mentality is created by a company. Speaking truthes is not slander. So keep riding the gravy train HCSO blowing money on political moves and toys instead of staffing. When you finally look down at your people, you will see what you turned them in to. New cars and new guns and more money wont fix it. You will actually have to do it the hard way and treat them like humans. Pay attention. Listen to them. Don't worry about the patrol car decals and uniform designs. We have way bigger issue. Start with staffing patrol based on population, business volume, and call volume, not just call volume alone. You have turned us into reactive report writers. The cop mentality has long since been allowed to die. Because of this, you see the decay and crime problems spreading out of the city and into our areas that were once peaceful and safe. Shame on you HCSO.

    This is so true.

  10. #30
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    Funny how others (probably bought and paid for command staff) don’t address any of the points presented but were quick to insult someone over their typos.

    And that’s exactly why this agency has its issues. It’s time to cut the fat my friends. Too many chiefs and not enough Indians. Oh I’m sorry was that not politically correct?

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