Shooting at fleeing vehicles

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Anyone who shoots at a fleeing vehicle that doesn’t show an ongoing threat to public safety (i.e. continually trying to run over people, prior knowledge that they had intent to cause harm to others, or known to try to harm others) is a complete idiot and should be terminated!

Every bullet leaving the barrel after the threat stopped is in anger and is a possible innocent persons life!

It’s especially perplexing under the circumstances of a speeding driver, when the officer jumps in front of the car and puts his hand up to stop “POLICE”! Who the HELL does that at 3 am over speeding driver’s on the beach full of DUI’s?

Upon the speeding drunk driver realized he made the worst possible error by not stopping, the idiot panicked and fled, and should go to prison or killed fleeing a traffic stop! But what about the passengers and small children in the vehicle, the pedestrian on the sidewalk, and the other vehicle approaching the shooting?

Zero common sense and zero sound judgment!

I’m sure that FDLE and SAO will not clear this as a good shooting even if the department does!

The department wil collude with the SAO and prob charge the officer with reckless display or possible Agg assault.

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Unbelievably the officer from the beach was cleared in this shooting!

I bet any real police agency, would have dismissed this officer as a liability with extremely poor judgement!

In the future, this turd will likely end up costing the department a huge lawsuit and will cause it to be taken over by the sheriff!

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2 Seattle police officers fired for shooting at fleeing car
July 24 2018
By Steve Miletich
The Seattle Times

SEATTLE — Two Seattle police officers who unleashed a barrage of gunshots at a fleeing car in the Eastlake neighborhood last year, wounding the driver and a passenger, have been fired after a lengthy internal investigation.

In strongly worded disciplinary reports released Monday, Interim Police Chief Carmen Best found that officers Kenneth Martin and Tabitha Sexton recklessly fired at the stolen car after failing to follow department policies.

“Police officers have immense responsibilities and wide-ranging potential to impact the lives of the public,” Best wrote to each officer. “It’s our central mission to keep the public safe. Your actions and decisions did the opposite: they created a deadly force situation that unnecessarily threatened public safety.”

Her decision comes less than a week after Mayor Jenny Durkan nominated Best for the permanent chief’s job and represents her most significant disciplinary action since Durkan appointed her interim chief in January following the departure of Police Chief Kathleen O’Toole.

Although the driver and passenger weren’t seriously injured, the disciplinary reports and internal-investigation findings depict a chaotic scene in which the outcome could have led to unwarranted deaths or serious injuries and possible harm to bystanders who could have been struck by errant gunfire.

The reports also revealed, for the first time, that a third person was in the car, although it is not believed that person was injured.

Top department staff had recommended the firings of Martin, who joined the department in 2015, and Sexton, who joined in 2007. The two officers were notified of the chief’s decision in the last few days after separately meeting with Best to offer explanations for their actions.

In firing the two, Best upheld the results of the internal investigation, conducted by the department’s Office of Police Accountability (OPA). It recommended the chief sustain violations of policies regarding use of force; use of deadly force against a fleeing person; firing weapons at a moving vehicle; and abuse of discretion.

In an additional finding against Martin, the OPA concluded he failed to employ tactics to de-escalate the situation and, instead, made it worse when he ran, with his AR-15 rifle, toward the car and tried to block it. Best also adopted that finding.

The OPA reached a determination of “inconclusive” on whether Martin and Sexton violated the law, although the OPA’s civilian director, Andrew Myerberg, wrote that the officers’ actions were “potentially criminal in nature.” He left it to prosecutors to make that decision.


Top officials with the Seattle Police Officers’ Guild, which represents the two officers, didn’t respond to calls and emails seeking comment.

Martin and Sexton, who were among four officers who responded to the Oct. 8 incident, fired 27 rounds into the fleeing car in an alley west of the 2200 block of Yale Avenue East. Video footage captured by officers’ body cameras and dashboard cameras was released by the department’s public-affairs office two days after the incident.

Police had responded to a 911 call reporting two people using drugs. The caller said he saw one person holding a handgun, although he later told the dispatcher the object could be a phone, and that another person had what appeared to be a knife or screwdriver in his hand.

The video shows officers moving toward a car, with one officer asking, “Is that them right there?” One officer yelled for one person to get on the ground, but the person runs toward the car.

The video then shows four officers running toward the car, with one of them — identified as Martin — standing in front of the car and moving out of the way as the driver leaves a parking stall and heads north through the alley.

The car hit a wall, reversed momentarily and then drove forward, the OPA found.

Martin and Sexton fired a second volley into the rear of the car as it drove away, according to the OPA.

While Martin recognized the car as one that had fled from him two nights earlier, he did not treat the response as a high-risk stop requiring planning or tactical discussion with the other officers, the OPA found.

Rather than taking cover behind a vehicle and giving the people in the car orders to get out — creating time, distance and shielding — Martin ran in front of the car and increased his exposure, according to the OPA.

By the time Martin fired, he had moved to the driver’s side of the car, out of its path, as it pulled away from him, the OPA found.

Best, calling Martin’s initial 12 shots unreasonable, noted in her report that when Martin fired, no weapons were visible in the hands of the vehicle’s occupants, nor was the car headed towards him or others.

Sexton’s initial shots were arguably justified because, from her perceptions, she believed Martin was in danger, according to the OPA and Best’s report.

But the OPA and Best found no justification on her part or Martin’s for the second volley, concluding the car no longer posed a threat as it sped away from them.

Best wrote that, under department policy, Martin and Sexton “should have allowed the car to escape instead of shooting indiscriminately” into the rear. With the car’s known license plate number, an arrest could have been made later, she added.

Sexton, despite being the senior officer at the scene, took no planning or tactical steps, including the use of time, distance and shielding, Best wrote.

Citing both officers’ defense of their actions on the ground they were trying to protect the public, Best wrote that she couldn’t risk another deadly force incident created by their failure to follow policies “given the potential life-and-death consequences.”

The car was later found abandoned in North King County, and the injured driver and passenger were arrested Oct. 13 in Everett.

The driver, Joshua Brooks, 21, pleaded guilty to possession of a stolen vehicle and was sentenced to seven years in prison for that offense and separate crimes, including burglary.

His mother, Wendy Lee, 46, pleaded guilty to taking a motor vehicle without permission and was sentenced to 49 days of time served in the King County Jail.

After their arrests, Brooks was treated at Harborview Medical Center in Seattle for two gunshot wounds to his lower back, and Lee for shrapnel in her lower back and legs.

Lee told police that a third person, whom she wouldn’t identify, had been in the car but wasn’t injured or dead, according to the OPA.

King County prosecutors conducted a preliminary review of the shooting, but tentatively declined to bring criminal charges against Martin and Sexton pending further investigation by the Police Department. With the internal investigation completed, prosecutors will take a second look at the case.

Best, who is awaiting City Council confirmation hearings on her nomination to the permanent chief’s position, inherited the internal investigation case when she became interim chief.

In a previous high-profile disciplinary case, Best earlier this year suspended for two days an officer who did not have his Taser with him when he and another officer fatally shot a 30-year-old woman, Charleena Lyles, last year. The officers said they shot Lyles, a mother of four children who had reported a burglary at her apartment, after she suddenly pulled one or two knives on them.

©2018 The Seattle Times


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News flash, this ain’t Seattle idiot.

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Interesting that this was just on POLICEONE

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One of the news stations is doing an investigative report on this case and supposed to be on soon!

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James, I bet you would fit right in over in Seattle. That liberal town is just your speed. Why don’t you move there. We will even start a go fund me page to get you moving. Even that stupid boat car can go with your dumb ass. Then you can share your liberal anti-police thoughts with other socialist turds who are as stupid and crazy as you.

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NC police chief: Officer's life was in danger when he fired at stolen vehicle
September 7 2018
By Thomasi McDonald
The News & Observer

RALEIGH, NC — Raleigh Police Chief Cassandra Deck-Brown on Thursday made public a series of videos that show the moments when a uniformed officer fired his gun at a speeding car that had been reported stolen.

Deck-Brown released the videos after some Raleigh residents and community activists criticized the officer for firing at the car on a busy Southeast Raleigh Street.

According to a press release from Deck-Brown that accompanied the videos, Senior Officer J.C. Vucich thought that the driver of the car was attempting to hit him.

The press release states that at about 4:10 p.m. on Aug. 13, police Sgt. S.A. Brown spotted a GMC Terrain that had just been reported stolen traveling near Poole Road. Brown followed the GMC and radioed for assistance. Vucich responded to the call.




The GMC came to a stop behind a passenger van alongside a church at the intersection of Merrywood Drive and Rock Quarry Road.

The church hosts daily tutoring in math and science for at-risk children. Administrators there told The News & Observer last month that there were about 15 children inside the building the day of the shooting, and added that they were unaware of the traffic stop and subsequent gunfire.

According to Deck-Brown’s press release, after Vucich arrived, Brown activated his blue lights and got out of his patrol car to give commands to the driver of the GMC, who was later identified as Ronie Demitri Hyman.

As Vucich was getting out of his patrol car to assist with the traffic stop, Hyman turned his wheels to the left, accelerated rapidly and headed directly toward Vucich, according to the press release.

“Officer Vucich, believing that Mr. Hyman was attempting to strike him with the stolen vehicle, quickly backed away from the rapidly advancing vehicle, drew his weapon and fired two shots at the vehicle,” Deck-Brown said in the release.

The sequence of events recorded by Vucich’s body camera, unfolded over a roughly 16-second span. The footage shows the stolen vehicle appearing to speed toward the patrol car. Vucich’s driver’s door was still open after he quickly got out of the vehicle. The GMC appeared to be about three feet from the open patrol car door before it turned left. Hyman had already turned left when Vucich twice fired and yelled, “Shots fired! Shots fired! Go! Go! Go!”

A second video from the patrol car’s dash camera, shows Brown’s patrol car behind the stolen car. He was outside of the patrol car, with his gun drawn as he approached the GMC before it sped away.

Footage obtained by police from a nearby store shows two people running away from the shooting and a handful of people across the street in front of a strip of stores. In that footage the action appears to be taking place at least 100 yards away.

The officers ran to their cars and pursued the GMC before the chase ended on Western Boulevard near N.C. State University.

Police charged Hyman, 22, of Addison Street in Raleigh with vehicle theft, felony fleeing to elude police and failing to stop after a property-damage accident. He was also charged with reckless driving.

“As can be seen in the video links below, this sequence of events unfolded very rapidly,” Deck-Brown states in the press release. “Mr. Hyman, who was not struck by any rounds, fled the scene and Officer Vucich and Sgt. Brown pursued him.”

The case is being investigated by the Wake County District Attorney’s Office, which is standard policy in officer-involved shootings.

The police department’s internal affairs division is also conducting an administrative review of the shooting to determine if any departmental policies were violated, Deck-Brown said

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James, why don’t you post this bullshit one the Raleigh, North Carolina LEOAffairs page. This is the Pinellas County Sheriff’s Office page. Stupid retard.

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ISPD stands for IDIOTS STUPID POLICE DUMBASS’s ha ha ha
Those guys make critical intervention services look like the FBI!

ISPD Incompetence Surely present daily

Inconsistent Sh!++y Police Demonstrations

ISPD I Shoot people Departing

ISPD I Sh!? Pants Daily

ISPD I Should’t Possess Deadly Force

ISPD. I Shoot People’s Dodge

ISPD. Inconceivable Substandard Police Department

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