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    Small Town Police Department

    North port is a small town with a small town police department. What is the biggest building in North Port? Wal Mart?
    Of all the agencies in Sarasota and Manatee counties only Longboat Key has a lower crime rate than North Port. Even Venice has a higher crime rate than North Port.

    North Port, Venice and Longboat Key cannot justify the amount of money that they spend on their police departments with so little activity. The good officers that try to do their jobs are rightly frustrated.

    Younger officers should get out while they can.

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    SO, I just started reading some of the NP PD threads. I live in NP but work in another part of the state. Am not really up to speed on all issues with the PD but was surprised to see all the candidates rejected, am also surprised that the city administrator used to be an assistant finance guy....hmmm no else in the state qualified? NP is an interesting place mostly blue collar with retirees a few folks with $$ mostly in Heron Creek and Bobcat i have lived here for several years but guess I need to start paying attention. Have seen few commission mtgs online and am appalled by the lack of professionalism by most of them-but that s what we get for 29k a year....interesting how all the meetings are during the day when most cannot attend and even more cannot run if we have a real job...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    North port is a small town with a small town police department. What is the biggest building in North Port? Wal Mart?
    Of all the agencies in Sarasota and Manatee counties only Longboat Key has a lower crime rate than North Port. Even Venice has a higher crime rate than North Port.

    North Port, Venice and Longboat Key cannot justify the amount of money that they spend on their police departments with so little activity. The good officers that try to do their jobs are rightly frustrated.

    Younger officers should get out while they can.
    Are you a LEO?

    Also, what are your sources? The crime rate's difference between Venice and North Port is insignificant.

    North Port has a population of approximately 60,000. Venice 22,000 and it is growing. The Sheriff's Office already sends Deputies to work crashes on I75 because FHP is way too short on Troopers, they would have a hard time with North Port and Venice.
    So, what's your solution exactly? Less money for NPPD? Which may lead to less recruiting, less training, equipment issues, more Officers leaving for another agency...And then, when SHTF in peaceful NP you'll change your mind again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    North port is a small town with a small town police department. What is the biggest building in North Port? Wal Mart?

    Of all the agencies in Sarasota and Manatee counties only Longboat Key has a lower crime rate than North Port. Even Venice has a higher crime rate than North Port.

    North Port, Venice and Longboat Key cannot justify the amount of money that they spend on their police departments with so little activity. The good officers that try to do their jobs are rightly frustrated.

    Younger officers should get out while they can.
    NPPD is an outstanding agency, especially for younger officers.

    Anyway, here is factual crime data:

    FDLE 2017 comparison of county and municipal crime data (click and scroll down):
    http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/FSAC/UCR..._Offenses.aspx

    Happy crime reading!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    NPPD is an outstanding agency, especially for younger officers.

    Anyway, here is factual crime data:

    FDLE 2017 comparison of county and municipal crime data (click and scroll down):
    http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/FSAC/UCR..._Offenses.aspx

    Happy crime reading!
    If you look in the far right corner of the FDLE document, please note that NPPD has the best "clearance rate" in Sarasota County. No other agency comes close. It's the clearance rate that determines how good or crappy an agency is.

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    Reality !!!!!

    NPPD is not such a great agency for younger or older officers, just look at the turnover rate in the last year alone (28). Both the Chief and asst Chief gone in one week, not that I am complaining. It is commonly known that the books are cooked here to keep the reportable crimes down, so lets not pat ourselves on the back. In regards to our case solving ability, fair, better than some agencies but fair and that's generous. Let us not start fabricating just how wonderful this place is, has been for some time a cesspool, good officers gone, a$$ kissers run rampant. Pay sucks and if the fireman's steps are any indications of what is to become, well that sucks to. Nothing is going to change here because of who left, so lets face reality and move on. We have our share of serious incidents, not like Ft Myers but we are headed in that direction. No manpower, no fair compensation and no competent leadership makes us a prime area for crime to set up shop and fi you are out here look around it already has started and we are in no way prepared for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    NPPD is not such a great agency for younger or older officers, just look at the turnover rate in the last year alone (28). Both the Chief and asst Chief gone in one week, not that I am complaining. It is commonly known that the books are cooked here to keep the reportable crimes down, so lets not pat ourselves on the back. In regards to our case solving ability, fair, better than some agencies but fair and that's generous. Let us not start fabricating just how wonderful this place is, has been for some time a cesspool, good officers gone, a$$ kissers run rampant. Pay sucks and if the fireman's steps are any indications of what is to become, well that sucks to. Nothing is going to change here because of who left, so lets face reality and move on. We have our share of serious incidents, not like Ft Myers but we are headed in that direction. No manpower, no fair compensation and no competent leadership makes us a prime area for crime to set up shop and fi you are out here look around it already has started and we are in no way prepared for it.

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    Kool Aid

    Drink-up, your glass is obviously half full of kool aid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Drink-up, your glass is obviously half full of kool aid.
    I'll take the nice active-duty paycheck and the excellent retirement pay. From your fantasyland perspective, you can call it poison, but I'm laughing at you all the way to the bank. :-)

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    Generational Gap

    The issue with most police agencies is that most leadership was brought up through the authoritative style of leadership, and any time a newer officer asks why something is done that way, the leader takes it as a newer police officer questioning their authority. Times have changed and old school leaders need to start listening to the new generation, not that they have all the answers but are more in touch with society changes and could provide valuable information that be used to come up with new innovated ways to address issues. Giving the new generation a voice is not a sign of weakness it is a sign of a good leader adapting to our ever changing culture. Once officers feel they have a voice and are part of a possible solution moral will grow. Once the word gets out that your agency is open to new ideas the retention and attracting new officers will not be an issue. Experience leaders know that they do not know everything and look at all available sources to lead the agency into a positive direction and change the culture.

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