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    Thoughts on Broward Co. Sheriff and here

    Sad to think but I can see the same surround and set up a perimiter order being given here.

    Fortunately there are some here that will have acted long before certain leaders would come out from under their desks and assume command.

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    Sad to think but I can see the same surround and set up a perimiter order being given here.

    Fortunately there are some here that will have acted long before certain leaders would come out from under their desks and assume command.
    I'd radio in that I was x97, then switch off my radio off.... Till the scumbag was dead, then turn it back on.... Fire me if you wish...

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    Sad to think but I can see the same surround and set up a perimiter order being given here.

    Fortunately there are some here that will have acted long before certain leaders would come out from under their desks and assume command.

    This is really a moral question and a gut-check if we are going to be honest with ourselves. We have no legal responsibility, per the US Supreme Court, to answer any calls for service that we determine are just not worth it. Regardless, I just could not stand idly by while someone lays waste to innocents, even if that means I lose my life in the process. Anecdotally, I do not even care for most of the students around here, but that is immaterial. Further, I know my job well and do not need the admin to give me guidance on how or whether I can do something.

    I do not know how any cop, on or off-duty could listen to an active shooter situation and not instinctively move to stop the threat. Heck, even two guys from a non-jurisdictional SWAT team that were training close by headed over to confront the shooter and took the suspension. Who cares, suspend or fire me, I can get another job; what I could not do is sleep soundly knowing that I did nothing to thwart the violence. I am a Sheepdog!

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    This is really a moral question and a gut-check if we are going to be honest with ourselves. We have no legal responsibility, per the US Supreme Court, to answer any calls for service that we determine are just not worth it. Regardless, I just could not stand idly by while someone lays waste to innocents, even if that means I lose my life in the process. Anecdotally, I do not even care for most of the students around here, but that is immaterial. Further, I know my job well and do not need the admin to give me guidance on how or whether I can do something.

    I do not know how any cop, on or off-duty could listen to an active shooter situation and not instinctively move to stop the threat. Heck, even two guys from a non-jurisdictional SWAT team that were training close by headed over to confront the shooter and took the suspension. Who cares, suspend or fire me, I can get another job; what I could not do is sleep soundly knowing that I did nothing to thwart the violence. I am a Sheepdog!
    Well said. We have been provided with the equipment and the training here to react in a proactive way. I know the Chief is also working on getting our radios to be able to communicate in the buildings. We have the support and I a have no doubt our officers would respond in the best way.

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    Active shooter radio activity, first five minutes into the incident in order

    Can i get an update

    Can you call dispatch

    Can you call my cell

    Can you sent a Admin email

    Can you send EH&S and get me an ETA

    Why ?

    Unit blah blah copy a traffic stop

    Why not ?

    Why that?

    Can I get an Update?

    When ?

    No,you stay in charge your doing so well

    Who's in charge ?

    HEY ! Stop that blue car, I smelled weed when it went by!

    Admin's busting my chops and need to know now.

    Can the Bull Runner get by? They're calling in complaining.

    After- action. We need to address this in after-action.

    Theres a professor who is giving a test and whats to know how long this is going to be.

    We're getting calls ....are we closed ?

    Is the library open.

    Can you copy a U number and a North Dakota tag and add it to the call

    Tampa Fire has a 25 min eta and wants an escort.

    The Assistant Director to the Vice President of the Office of Student Sustainable Copy Paper and Biodegradable Pencils is stuck on I75 and wants to know what the hold up is. She wants to talk with someone in charge.

    Theres a Soccer game, a Baseball Game and Snoop Dogs at the Sundome, we need someone to direct traffic because the buses cant get to Pizzo.

    Hey stop the Yellow car to your left I smell weed.

    Parking called, Frank Granda says they are going home at 6pm and they are going to open the roads .

    Anyone see the PIO?

    Can we shut the sirens off ? People are scared and their whittle ears hurt.

    Is there a call? I was in a building.

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    I have to add one more- and it would come from someone sitting at a desk with rank in the building, "set up a perimeter" trying to over ride any officers out on the field trying to respond to the situation...oh yes, it has happened and could again

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    Almost every single thing you do here on a regular basis is reviewed over and over again by people whose only goal is protect you their own career.

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    How are we going to do fake contacts, BS checks, and traffic stops? Let a shooting cause us to have an inadequate pass along.

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    I regularly practice with my weapons, I make sure they are well maintained, I take our range training seriously. As much as I know that Im ready to act if called upon to stop a violent situation, I'd rather be home and unaware of an active shooting because I dont trust most of the people in charge.

    My career, my familys financial protection and my freedom will be in danger because we will be judged by people who should not hold the high ranks that they do much less be in todays type of Law Enforcement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I'd radio in that I was x97, then switch off my radio off.... Till the scumbag was dead, then turn it back on.... Fire me if you wish...
    The "After Action" Committe will be in an uproar and recommend that you get written up and fired for using "10-97". Hero to zero just like that. SHAME ON YOU !

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