Where was SRO?

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Mod 1, I wrote the one that you deleted but I don't think it was outlandish. Us cops are the biggest critics and I just posted what was said on scene about one of the SRO's (Edited to comply with Terms of Use). I then wrote that an alleged Coral Springs Police Officer, who is a coach on the baseball team was "raking the field" when he heard the shots and rushed over to the school (Edited to comply with Terms of Use). Now, for someone to make that up hours while still on scene I believe is crazy. To detail it that much I tend to believe it. There was no cursing or calling out names. I even somewhat sympathized with the alleged SRO stating that it sucks to go in that situation but we have to go. Anyways, I am not a trouble maker or an Israel hater, I just typed what I had heard from a buddy that was there within 15 minutes of the inception. If it is true, shame on the SRO and a thank God goes out to the Coral Springs guy who (Edited to comply with Terms of Use). Also, from what I gathered Parkland deputies set up a box while officers from Springs and other agencies flew by them. Now, in an active shooter we should not think containment because someone is ACTIVELY SHOOTING. YOU GO DIRECTLY TO THE THREAT AND ENGAGE AND HOPEFULLY DESTROY. I am not a Springs guy but if it is true I am proud of them. Please don't erase. All of the facts will come out because the school security video will clearly show the SRO's actions. For those of you who were there and saw the carnage I hope you heal fast. Do not be too proud. There are good people that you can talk too. Dr. Stillman is a former cop and either a Psychologist or Psychiatrist. The EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM should cover like 10 sessions with him. Good luck and great job to those that did their jobs that horrible day.

I decided to edit your more recent post rather than delete it because you wrote some good information. Regardless of your intent, it is still a violation of the Terms of Use to make allegations of wrongdoing without posting some sort of proof.

Now as to the validity of your story, we both know that there are 3 sides to that story, the SRO's, the Coral Springs Officer, and somewhere in between, the truth. Honestly, I don't police whether posts are true or not, I just work to enforce the Terms of Use to the best of my ability.

Thanks,

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Mod 1, I wrote the one that you deleted but I don't think it was outlandish. Us cops are the biggest critics and I just posted what was said on scene about one of the SRO's (Edited to comply with Terms of Use). I then wrote that an alleged Coral Springs Police Officer, who is a coach on the baseball team was "raking the field" when he heard the shots and rushed over to the school (Edited to comply with Terms of Use). Now, for someone to make that up hours while still on scene I believe is crazy. To detail it that much I tend to believe it. There was no cursing or calling out names. I even somewhat sympathized with the alleged SRO stating that it sucks to go in that situation but we have to go. Anyways, I am not a trouble maker or an Israel hater, I just typed what I had heard from a buddy that was there within 15 minutes of the inception. If it is true, shame on the SRO and a thank God goes out to the Coral Springs guy who (Edited to comply with Terms of Use). Also, from what I gathered Parkland deputies set up a box while officers from Springs and other agencies flew by them. Now, in an active shooter we should not think containment because someone is ACTIVELY SHOOTING. YOU GO DIRECTLY TO THE THREAT AND ENGAGE AND HOPEFULLY DESTROY. I am not a Springs guy but if it is true I am proud of them. Please don't erase. All of the facts will come out because the school security video will clearly show the SRO's actions. For those of you who were there and saw the carnage I hope you heal fast. Do not be too proud. There are good people that you can talk too. Dr. Stillman is a former cop and either a Psychologist or Psychiatrist. The EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM should cover like 10 sessions with him. Good luck and great job to those that did their jobs that horrible day.

So you "heard from a buddy that was there within 15 minutes" and "from what I gathered Parkland deputies set up a box etc etc." The fact is that a Parkland Deputy was with the Coral Springs officers when they gained entry into the west door. And a Parkland Deputy was with other Coral Springs officers at the east door dragging injured children out, etc. That's two Parkland deputies which is half their road patrol shift that day. And there were other BSO there. And everyone did what they did to clear the building and get the injured out. I give Coral Springs PD high praise for what they did that day and how they responded. They are an excellent department! I can't speak for every Parkland deputy and what they did, but what i mentioned above is true. Can we please stop spreading rumors and allow this investigation to take its course.

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So you "heard from a buddy that was there within 15 minutes" and "from what I gathered Parkland deputies set up a box etc etc." The fact is that a Parkland Deputy was with the Coral Springs officers when they gained entry into the west door. And a Parkland Deputy was with other Coral Springs officers at the east door dragging injured children out, etc. That's two Parkland deputies which is half their road patrol shift that day. And there were other BSO there. And everyone did what they did to clear the building and get the injured out. I give Coral Springs PD high praise for what they did that day and how they responded. They are an excellent department! I can't speak for every Parkland deputy and what they did, but what i mentioned above is true. Can we please stop spreading rumors and allow this investigation to take its course.

his buddy has factual information because all you could see was coral springs everywhere and deputies holding a perimiter. the bottom line is one agency went in and did their job while others from another agency cannot say the same.

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So you "heard from a buddy that was there within 15 minutes" and "from what I gathered Parkland deputies set up a box etc etc." The fact is that a Parkland Deputy was with the Coral Springs officers when they gained entry into the west door. And a Parkland Deputy was with other Coral Springs officers at the east door dragging injured children out, etc. That's two Parkland deputies which is half their road patrol shift that day. And there were other BSO there. And everyone did what they did to clear the building and get the injured out. I give Coral Springs PD high praise for what they did that day and how they responded. They are an excellent department! I can't speak for every Parkland deputy and what they did, but what i mentioned above is true. Can we please stop spreading rumors and allow this investigation to take its course.

I'm hearing rumors and is there any truth that only Coral Springs PD extracted injured and wounded victims and no deputies from our office assisted them? All I'm seeing in video and pictures are officers from Springs.

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his buddy has factual information because all you could see was coral springs everywhere and deputies holding a perimiter. the bottom line is one agency went in and did their job while others from another agency cannot say the same.

I am the one who typed the text that you are responding to. What I said is absolutely true. I know this, not because i heard it from a "buddy," but because i was one of those deputies. If you don't believe me then you are welcome to come to a Parkland roll call and ask who posted that text. I will raise my hand and then fill you in on the details. And again, i have nothing but praise for the CSPD.

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Meathead Sheriff Israel said the deputies name on national TV. He threw his own guy under the bus.

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Wherever the SRD was, or was not, our kids lives, and all of your lives were put on the line by the School Board of Broward County.

At the parent drop off at Stoneman Douglas, it is quickly evident that there are many students who are in immediate need of close supervision for various reasons. It is not uncommon to see some of these children having conversations with an imaginary person, engaging in inappropriate discussion and seemingly confusing fantasy with reality. It's not their fault. They are sick. Similar to an elderly person with Alzheimer's, we have a moral obligation to protect these kids; and, at times, protect others from the behaviors that they exhibit.

The folks who make the decisions about the level of independence a child with mental illness will have at school are the staff in the ESE office at each school. Who are many of the department heads of the ESE offices ? Friends and family of the administration; and those in the DROP.

The young woman who chairs ESE at Douglas happens to be a good soul. However, the decisions about the level of independence have already been set before a child enters high school. Any changes to this plan require a great deal of time and paperwork. Changes to the plan are often made reluctantly and re-actively as a child regresses.

In the county jail, inmates are cleared by a psychiatrist and assigned to a housing unit based on the level of supervision that each inmate needs. Perhaps the classification unit can share their expertise with the morons on the School Board. This county takes every precaution and proactive measure to protect inmates, detention staff, civilians, - but not our children.

It's a set up for failure. There is more concern about a child's "rights" rather than a child's needs; and of course, to hoard funding, a mentally ill child is given the maximum amount of independence in a school setting. After enduring relentless bullying, public humiliation, sexual exploitation, etc. the child eventually acts out aggressively. Reporting bullying leads to further bullying by the friends of the original bully. We all know this. This cycle is repeated until there are enough behavioral violations to dump a mentally ill (problem kid) who creates paperwork in another school.

Meanwhile, teachers and students who are frightened of these kids placate them from a distance. This mentally ill, and now alienated child, quickly learns that the attention derived from their inappropriate, and, sometimes threatening behavior is their only way of having their existence acknowledged by their peers.

Countless advocates for the disabled have stood before the Broward County School Board and have pleaded for change; to no avail. You can view these school board meetings on You Tube.

Now, the school board is standing with the "Stop Gun Violence" teens from Douglas, on TV, trying to divert attention from the fact that it is Broward County Public Schools who completed the perfect storm for this massacre.

Much of Broward County Public school "safety" is presently in the hands of school teachers who have often been "magic wanded" into ESE. For the safety of every child, teacher and LE, we must demand that EVERY child who exhibits behaviors of concern is assessed by a board certified psychiatrist who is the ONLY individual qualified to determine the level of care and supervision in a school setting.

Please help fight the good fight.

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I am not a deputy but have been in South Florida law enforcement for over 20 years. I have worked at 3 departments, 1 as a service aide when I 1st started for 2 years and 2 as a patrolman/detective. The issue here is, when Israel was asked to comment on the actions of the SRO(s), he immediately evaded the question and went onto other questions. In my career, the SROs for the most part are either cops in their last few years or already in the DROP and see it as some place to hide and be lazy. The other set are the ones who are too incompetent to work on patrol or no one else wants to work with them so they're pushed into a school and rarely ever heard from unless it's going 10-8 or 10-7. There are actually departments in this county (Pines) that utilize retired cops from other departments to police the schools paying them over $40k per year (from the school board budget) and only requiring them to work when school is in session. Hell, who WOULDN'T take that gig? Half of the SROs are so fat and out of shape that their holsters point outward. This has GOT to be addressed in the media and not just pushed aside by Israel. Soft targets require hardened cops that run toward the aggressor. I am not stereotyping ALL SROs by any means but am calling it like I've seen it in my career. I know there are some good ones out there but they are in the minority. I want to know where the SRO was, how many are assigned (I've only heard 1), and if the SRO was off or sick, then why wasn't another deputy called for O.T. to work it? It's a very simple set of questions that need to be answered.

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To the above poster, I am one of those 10 month a year SROs you describe to some degree. I have been in South Florida Law Enforcement for 30 plus years. I retired in my late 40’s but soon got bored with early retirement. I took an SRO job but had to pass all the requirements of any officer in Broward County’s Police Academy physical agility tests. Thankfully, I stayed in shape. I won’t insult the agency I was hired by but it treats the SROs as second class officers. We are issued old cars and told we don’t need long rifles. Pay has increased very little over the last 5 years I have been there. I stopped offering my opinion long ago as the agency could care less. Now let’s talk about the schools we are assigned to. Most of the principals really don’t want us on campus until we are needed and our opinions to improve safety or conduct staff training is frowned upon. Parents challenge you constantly when you ask them to follow any campus rules such as where to park or pick up their child. Most of the time the students appreciate us being on campus & trying to help them grow up and become productive members of society. I do have to re-qualify with my handgun twice a year and have had recent Active Shooter training. I personally, would not wait for backup in the event of a shooting at my school. I would and could end it ASAP. Please keep in mind if I have a day off or training, no one is sent to replace me. I hope this gives everyone some insight on what it’s like to be an SRO. I do what I do strictly to protect the kids, not for the pay, appreciation, or much else I don’t don’t receive. Stay safe, before we judge the SRO in Parkland let’s get all the facts.

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I am not a deputy but have been in South Florida law enforcement for over 20 years. I have worked at 3 departments, 1 as a service aide when I 1st started for 2 years and 2 as a patrolman/detective. The issue here is, when Israel was asked to comment on the actions of the SRO(s), he immediately evaded the question and went onto other questions. In my career, the SROs for the most part are either cops in their last few years or already in the DROP and see it as some place to hide and be lazy. The other set are the ones who are too incompetent to work on patrol or no one else wants to work with them so they're pushed into a school and rarely ever heard from unless it's going 10-8 or 10-7. There are actually departments in this county (Pines) that utilize retired cops from other departments to police the schools paying them over $40k per year (from the school board budget) and only requiring them to work when school is in session. Hell, who WOULDN'T take that gig? Half of the SROs are so fat and out of shape that their holsters point outward. This has GOT to be addressed in the media and not just pushed aside by Israel. Soft targets require hardened cops that run toward the aggressor. I am not stereotyping ALL SROs by any means but am calling it like I've seen it in my career. I know there are some good ones out there but they are in the minority. I want to know where the SRO was, how many are assigned (I've only heard 1), and if the SRO was off or sick, then why wasn't another deputy called for O.T. to work it? It's a very simple set of questions that need to be answered.

Those are some fairly accurate descriptions and I think your questions are on point and deserve a formal answer.