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    Wow. I had forgotten about the firearm at OIA. And I did not hear of the PIT maneuver. He is such a tool. Besides destroying morale he has made some really poor decisions and actions. To include:
    - the SWAT call this year where he had to be saved by the SWAT team (it was on VCSO exposed before he and his lackeys shut it down)
    - His relationship with Janelle Homan
    - His bicycle incident (not the crash...that was unfortunate) but where he did not strap the bicycle onto his department issued vehicle and lied about it after the crashed into three vehicles on I95
    - his not being able to pass the stress shoot
    - not wearing body armor, a BWC or other department issued equipment (from the "I will never ask a deputy to do anything I wouldn't do" campaign promiser")
    - decisions involving having a study involving lethal force (when you already have IA, FDLE and the State Attorney investigate it)
    - his personnel decisions (to include chiefs, transfers, demotions, etc)

    This is quite the list...there is so much more. I need to go take an aspirin. As long as you sing his praises and tell him he is God's gift to law enforcement you are safe (and will be getting promoted or praised)

    Here's a few more. Admittedly, I did not witness these (aside from seeing him on the news), but if even half of it is true...:
    - Murder in the City of Deland. The sheriff finds the suspect vehicle parked at a house (nice job). Then he goes inside alone (did he get consent???) and pulls out a suspect and brings him to the end of the driveway. Mysteriously, news vans show up almost immediately.
    - Deputy involved shooting in Deland. The Sheriff walks up to the dead guy, moves his head so he can see his face and then says nope. Don't know him.
    - Every Deputy involved shooting since he took office. He rushes to the scene to get BWC video, review it, and regurgitate it to the media. All in violation of department policy and the wishes of FDLE. Response, "**** FDLE." How would you like to be the deputy that just shot someone and your sheriff is pissing off the people investigating you.

    If this guy was a recruit, he would have been fired long ago for the stuff he does...

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    Here's a few more. Admittedly, I did not witness these (aside from seeing him on the news), but if even half of it is true...:
    - Murder in the City of Deland. The sheriff finds the suspect vehicle parked at a house (nice job). Then he goes inside alone (did he get consent???) and pulls out a suspect and brings him to the end of the driveway. Mysteriously, news vans show up almost immediately.
    - Deputy involved shooting in Deland. The Sheriff walks up to the dead guy, moves his head so he can see his face and then says nope. Don't know him.
    - Every Deputy involved shooting since he took office. He rushes to the scene to get BWC video, review it, and regurgitate it to the media. All in violation of department policy and the wishes of FDLE. Response, "**** FDLE." How would you like to be the deputy that just shot someone and your sheriff is pissing off the people investigating you.

    If this guy was a recruit, he would have been fired long ago for the stuff he does...
    But he has a well paid PR Staff (PIO and Janelle Homan) and a bunch of suck ups who will say anything and do anything for him. People are slowly starting to see through him. All it took was over 50 deputies to leave in the last couple of months, people expressing legitimate concerns on social media and the truth coming out.

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    Maybe you should take 3 seconds out of your day and research before saying something dumb. The post was on a secret/private page for the Union. It is protected speech. It was not ever “public”. Not Szabo’s fault some coward snitch had to backstab him and screenshot it and sent it to the sheriff
    That is why Brodie and the Union are going to get Szabo his job back or get a very nice financial settlement from the County (like what happened with Heather Post a couple of years ago)....or both of the above. And then there will be additional media coverage of the Sheriff....which is oxygen to him. Too bad the media coverage will paint him in a not very positive way. That is when the PIO and Janelle will come to the rescue.

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    I forgot this classic Chitwood. Remember a couple of months ago he told a group in the northwest part of the County to call 911 if they did not like that they were being pulled over on a traffic stop. Not to call 911 if there were safety issues. But to call 911 if they felt the traffic stop was not justified. Which I thought was wrong on a couple of reasons. One it appears to be a violation of the abuse of the 911 system. Two it appears to undermine the ability of his deputies to effectively do their job. Three....just poor leadership and pandering to public (and media).

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    Maybe you should take 3 seconds out of your day and research before saying something dumb. The post was on a secret/private page for the Union. It is protected speech. It was not ever “public”. Not Szabo’s fault some coward snitch had to backstab him and screenshot it and sent it to the sheriff

    Listen stupid, you can call it a "Private page" all you want. We are also the public. We can't say whatever we want when we work for the county. Based on your moronic statement, we can go on that very same page and threaten the president. Um, no we can't. He isn't the first deputy to lose his job for being vocal and he won't be the last. I know he won't, but if he did attempt to fight the dismissal, he'd lose all day long. It's a sad state of affairs that we can't just say what we want, but it's a reality. Hence the same reason we ALL post on here anonymously.

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    Listen stupid, you can call it a "Private page" all you want. We are also the public. We can't say whatever we want when we work for the county. Based on your moronic statement, we can go on that very same page and threaten the president. Um, no we can't. He isn't the first deputy to lose his job for being vocal and he won't be the last. I know he won't, but if he did attempt to fight the dismissal, he'd lose all day long. It's a sad state of affairs that we can't just say what we want, but it's a reality. Hence the same reason we ALL post on here anonymously.
    This took me all of 20 seconds to find. "Private" or not, it won't make a difference.

    https://www.icaew.com/library/subjec...nline-comments

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    This took me all of 20 seconds to find. "Private" or not, it won't make a difference.

    https://www.icaew.com/library/subjec...nline-comments
    There is no need for name calling. This was an injustice. And this issue is not over with yet. The conduct of Sheriff Chitwood would seem to be similar to Szabo. But Chitwood is not getting fired for the vulgar comments about the policies of the county or Dinneen (which Dinneen deserves).

    And Szabo according to the Union website will have the support of he union. And there appears to be more and more cases involving social media where folks are able to get jobs back.

    http://www.employerlawreport.com/201...-untrue-posts/

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    There is no need for name calling. This was an injustice. And this issue is not over with yet. The conduct of Sheriff Chitwood would seem to be similar to Szabo. But Chitwood is not getting fired for the vulgar comments about the policies of the county or Dinneen (which Dinneen deserves).

    And Szabo according to the Union website will have the support of he union. And there appears to be more and more cases involving social media where folks are able to get jobs back.

    http://www.employerlawreport.com/201...-untrue-posts/
    so? When is he coming back? Has he had his review board yet?

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    so? When is he coming back? Has he had his review board yet?
    If I was him I would not come back. The target on his back would be huge (even though the Sheriff probably could not hit it since he cannot qualify with his pistol).

    But I would do like Heather Post did and just get a financial settlement. Why would anybody want to work with Chitwood now?

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    Yet another good deputy in trouble for really nothing. Just exercising his first amendment rights. He only expressed a point of view that was critical of the decision making process of superiors. Seems like another good deputy getting ready to leave...joining the 43 (which seems like a real low number) that have left since Chitwood took office.

    http://www.news-journalonline.com/ne...-investigation

    My opinion...Szabo is getting screwed. And it further should be a warning to others....be careful of what you say or think in the VCSO. There are bosses with thin skin (Chitwood, Morgan, Creamer, et al) and they do not like the first amendment.
    As Alvin wake up from a restful night sleeping and fooling around with his mother here is another retro disgrace who couldn’t make rank. Johnny wasn’t smart enough to realize the constitution and cannot keep you out of hot water. He’s also not smart enough to this day to find a real job.

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