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  1. #11
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    Post Permitless Gun Carry During Emergency Evacuations

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    During an SNN TV hurricane interview, Tom Knight said that CCW permit holders can bring their guns into school buildings that are used as "public access buildings-shelters" because "all laws apply." He opened up another illegal Pandora's box that allows CCW guns inside:
    - basketball games & wrestling matches in school gyms (public access)

    - PTA meetings in school buildings (public access)

    - football games in school stadiums (public access)

    - renting out school buildings on weekends (like for church services or whatever

    No CCW permit is required in certain circumstances in Florida:

    Quote Originally Posted by “Brandon Curtis”
    Governor Rick Scott signed a bill that allows Florida residents to carry concealed firearms – without a permit – during the event of an emergency evacuation for 48 hours. The 48-hour period may be extended per the governor.
    Florida State Statute 790.01:
    http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/...s/0790.01.html

    Full story:
    http://concealednation.org/2015/05/p...gned-into-law/

    Quote Originally Posted by “Chris Eger”
    Lee Williams said: “To be clear, if you’re ordered to leave your home and you’re packing up your car… you can and should bring a firearm.”
    Full story:
    http://www.guns.com/2017/09/06/hurri...led-carry-law/
    Last edited by Media; 09-15-2017 at 09:01 PM. Reason: Correction
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    In reference to Knight publicly saying that CCW permit holders can legally bring their guns inside “school” shelters, he made an interesting legal call using incorrect legal reasoning:

    • He used “public access” as his legal excuse for allowing guns into school shelters.

    • Also, the governor never issued a mandatory evacuation, so the “permitless carry exemption” was not relevant or applicable. For the governor's permitless carry to be authorized, a mandatory evacuation order must come from the governor and not from county commissioners.

    It might be a distinction without a difference – except for that lingering pesky gun case with the 12th Judicial Circuit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Kurt Hoffman is only good for a photo shoot showing him smiling. Other than showing his smiling face in a photo op, he's as useless as a "hog's hind teat" that produces no milk (that's the back teat, for those of you who don't know). You can scroll through SSO Facebook to see over 10,000+ pics of Hoffman's smiling face. Love the smile, Kurt!
    With Hoffman's odd record of multiple thefts and lying and a failed polygraph, wouldn't you be smiling too if you were appointed by Knight and Balkwill to his $140,000 position as second in command of the entire agency? His smile looks like someone is grabbing his wiener exactly as he demands it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    With Hoffman's odd record of multiple thefts and lying and a failed polygraph, wouldn't you be smiling too if you were appointed by Knight and Balkwill to his $140,000 position as second in command of the entire agency? His smile looks like someone is grabbing his wiener exactly as he demands it.
    A new hire was asking about Hoffman's documented issues, so here ya go:
    https://www.scribd.com/document/3224...t-Hoffman-News

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    A new hire was asking about Hoffman's documented issues, so here ya go:
    https://www.scribd.com/document/3224...t-Hoffman-News
    When Colonel Hoffman took gas from the CCSO gas pump (as a Reserve CCSO deputy), he only "borrowed" it and he was going to return it. He just never got around to it returning it or paying for it. Does that make him a thief? For example, everybody takes a little bit of gas from SSO fleet for personal use, either in lawn mowers or in boats or POVs. That's not theft because everybody does it. Colonel Hoffman is just like the rest of us. You're trying to make it a big deal when it's not. Everybody squeezes a little here or there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    When Colonel Hoffman took gas from the CCSO gas pump (as a Reserve CCSO deputy), he only "borrowed" it and he was going to return it. He just never got around to it returning it or paying for it. Does that make him a thief? For example, everybody takes a little bit of gas from SSO fleet for personal use, either in lawn mowers or in boats or POVs. That's not theft because everybody does it. Colonel Hoffman is just like the rest of us. You're trying to make it a big deal when it's not. Everybody squeezes a little here or there.
    What about that Waller? If you tell a subordinate that it is ok to take gas from fleet is that against GO's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    When Colonel Hoffman took gas from the CCSO gas pump (as a Reserve CCSO deputy), he only "borrowed" it and he was going to return it. He just never got around to it returning it or paying for it. Does that make him a thief? For example, everybody takes a little bit of gas from SSO fleet for personal use, either in lawn mowers or in boats or POVs. That's not theft because everybody does it. Colonel Hoffman is just like the rest of us. You're trying to make it a big deal when it's not. Everybody squeezes a little here or there.
    No, everybody does not steal gas from the SSO fuel pump. That's criminal theft and is an arrestable offense. Stealing from taxpayers is a serious moral character issue. Other than Hoffman, can you name one person who steals SSO gas? Nope!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    When Colonel Hoffman took gas from the CCSO gas pump (as a Reserve CCSO deputy), he only "borrowed" it and he was going to return it. He just never got around to it returning it or paying for it. Does that make him a thief? For example, everybody takes a little bit of gas from SSO fleet for personal use, either in lawn mowers or in boats or POVs. That's not theft because everybody does it. Colonel Hoffman is just like the rest of us. You're trying to make it a big deal when it's not. Everybody squeezes a little here or there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    A new hire was asking about Hoffman's documented issues, so here ya go:
    https://www.scribd.com/document/3224...t-Hoffman-News
    Stealing from citizens BEFORE Hoffman was sworn-in as a CCSO reserve deputy is somewhat tolerable, although many people may disagree. However, stealing CCSO gas AFTER Hoffman was sworn-in as a reserve deputy is most definitely a moral character issue. Once someone is sworn-in as a LEO, the stealing is expected to be passé. Exactly who or what is to say that he hasn't continued to steal undetected? Or that he hasn't committed other moral character violations that are fully undetected? He already has a documented record of lying about criminal activities.

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    Perception

    To say that Colonel Klink only "borrowed" fuel is comparable to the thugs in Ft. Lauderdale breaking in to Foot Locker to "evacuate" the distressed Air Jordans,

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