Hernando county detention deputy's do not have powers of arrest. Hr218
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    Hernando county detention deputy's do not have powers of arrest. Hr218

    Detention Deputy's do not have Statutory powers of arrest, or even the ability to lawfully detain someone. So when Detention Deputy (Now Corporal) Justin Owens unlawfully stopped a vehicle when he was a Detention Deputy and flashed his badge he was in fact violating that citizens rights by unlawfully detaining them and should have been terminated..

    The Sheriff knew of the incident because that citizen inquired about the illegal stop, (Owens was mad because he felt he was cut off) and because Owens family is well connected with the Sheriff's office it was swept under the rug and he was eventually promoted.
    Under House Reform Bill (HR218) Detention Deputy's who have not completed Law Enforcement Academy's (Not Detention Academy's) and completed an FTO training program (Blue Lined) cannot carry there weapons in another state. Sheriff's Offices like HCSO are misinforming there employees and could have them jailed in another state should they carry a firearm whether they are trained in it or not by the Sheriff's Office. Without a permit for that state they are simply illegally carrying a firearm. Within this state in order to carry a firearm off duty they must complete a training course by the Sheriff's office in order for them to be authorized to do so if not then they are required to obtain there own concealed weapons permits. Detention has to buy there own guns they are not issued....SAD
    HR:218 specifically states A law Enforcement Officer must have "Statutory Powers Of Arrest" which Detention does not have. More poor training and lack of information by a small time Sheriff's Office. Just because they are all dressed the same does not mean they have the same powers they are actually powerless outside of the Detention Facility.

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    Its all in a name

    The last name says it all. Just look at alllll of the things JO has done and gotten away with. The "special" assignments he's had that keep him away from population. Just wait; he'll be sponsored to the cross-over and hit the road at CPL pay if he doesn't promote first. The name says it all, not the character of the individual.

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    Detention Deputies

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Detention Deputy's do not have Statutory powers of arrest, or even the ability to lawfully detain someone. So when Detention Deputy (Now Corporal) Justin Owens unlawfully stopped a vehicle when he was a Detention Deputy and flashed his badge he was in fact violating that citizens rights by unlawfully detaining them and should have been terminated..

    The Sheriff knew of the incident because that citizen inquired about the illegal stop, (Owens was mad because he felt he was cut off) and because Owens family is well connected with the Sheriff's office it was swept under the rug and he was eventually promoted.
    Under House Reform Bill (HR218) Detention Deputy's who have not completed Law Enforcement Academy's (Not Detention Academy's) and completed an FTO training program (Blue Lined) cannot carry there weapons in another state. Sheriff's Offices like HCSO are misinforming there employees and could have them jailed in another state should they carry a firearm whether they are trained in it or not by the Sheriff's Office. Without a permit for that state they are simply illegally carrying a firearm. Within this state in order to carry a firearm off duty they must complete a training course by the Sheriff's office in order for them to be authorized to do so if not then they are required to obtain there own concealed weapons permits. Detention has to buy there own guns they are not issued....SAD
    HR:218 specifically states A law Enforcement Officer must have "Statutory Powers Of Arrest" which Detention does not have. More poor training and lack of information by a small time Sheriff's Office. Just because they are all dressed the same does not mean they have the same powers they are actually powerless outside of the Detention Facility.
    If this is true then Owens should have been investigated by IA but HR218 has nothing to do with Florida statute allowing the Sheriff to allow Detention Deputies to carry off duty. Congress defined “qualified law enforcement officers” broadly, to include individuals who engage in or supervise incarceration. Any Detention Deputy would be best served getting their concealed carry permit if they're going out of state and knowing which states reciprocate recognizing our CCW laws.

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    The investigation (if you want to call it that) was handled in-house by Scarpati..... Enough said

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    Then

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    The investigation (if you want to call it that) was handled in-house by Scarpati..... Enough said
    SCARPATI? then why are we dredging up old crap? Come on.

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    Exclamation Then why are they "Best Served" to get their own CWP?

    Sorry their is no debate here. The statute is extremely specific and not broad as you assert. Anyone who does not have powers of arrest regardless of what function they perform for a Law Enforcement agency then HR218 will not protect a Detention Deputy or any LEO in another state with his/her weapon. Period.
    As I stated in the title why are they "Best served in getting their CWP" this will only provide some protection in Florida for a "LEO" BUT this is also misleading, if you possess a CWP here in Florida and you carry that weapon into a non-respiratory state like libtard NY you will be arrested and your badge will mean little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    If this is true then Owens should have been investigated by IA but HR218 has nothing to do with Florida statute allowing the Sheriff to allow Detention Deputies to carry off duty. Congress defined “qualified law enforcement officers” broadly, to include individuals who engage in or supervise incarceration. Any Detention Deputy would be best served getting their concealed carry permit if they're going out of state and knowing which states reciprocate recognizing our CCW laws.

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    Deptuy Sessa.

    Aside from Owens don't forget former maintenance man Sessa who the sheriff put through the academy to be a Deputy on the Tax payers dime. Sessa paid nothing while others had to work their way through the academy's paying their own way. This infuriated the staff. Sessa was Billy Beets brother in law.....
    No to mention the promotion of Butler who is also connected with family at the S.O who skipped right over Corporal to Sergeant.....
    By the way that nut job Sgt Grace White is she still stealing from food service....

    Get rid of that leech "Major" Page he's responsible for the friends and family discounts in detention while the Sheriff sits back and runs the road..





    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Sorry their is no debate here. The statute is extremely specific and not broad as you assert. Anyone who does not have powers of arrest regardless of what function they perform for a Law Enforcement agency then HR218 will not protect a Detention Deputy or any LEO in another state with his/her weapon. Period.
    As I stated in the title why are they "Best served in getting their CWP" this will only provide some protection in Florida for a "LEO" BUT this is also misleading, if you possess a CWP here in Florida and you carry that weapon into a non-respiratory state like libtard NY you will be arrested and your badge will mean little.
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    klueless

    and take captain kluless back,he doesnt belong being in the law enforcement section. he has no road or investigative experience. he only smooches the pooper. he literally looks klueless where he is at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    and take captain kluless back,he doesnt belong being in the law enforcement section. he has no road or investigative experience. he only smooches the pooper. he literally looks klueless where he is at.
    I don't understand. Kluless? Klusnick perhaps. When he was brought over to Hernando by Major Page his former boss at Paco where he was a Sgt he was actually put in charge of Detention as a Lt.
    Which pissed a bunch of people off since their were many more qualified individuals for the position. Naturally when the jail was taken over with him at the helm their was mass chaos and confusion. Page and Klusnick stayed out of the Detention facility in there upstairs offices cowering along with the likes of training officer Satre who is just incompetent and another one milking a retirement off others backs. Very rarely even seen these people in the jail.
    The road is where most of the funding from the county goes, no one cares the jail is short staffed and a dangerous place to work. Out of site out of mind.

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