Knight’s legal battle: Can a judge tell a sheriff where to provide security?

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Knight's public defiance of the chief judge almost landed him in jail for "contempt of court." Can you name one other Florida sheriff who publicly defied a court order from a chief judge? Nope, you can't. If the judge had put Knight in our own jail, then that would have been even bigger news, but the judge chose not to do that, probably as a professional courtesy.

In the history of Florida, has a sitting sheriff ever been placed in his own jail as an inmate? That would have made nationwide news -- and not just local news. But as Kurt would say, "Ah it's just a small trivial thing. It's just a tiny commonplace argument that happens all the time." OMG not!

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Nothing is listed (yet) on the 2nd DCA docket:

http://jweb.flcourts.org/pls/ds/ds_d...=965&pscourt=2

This case is like fingernails on a chalkboard for Knight. It's he is in a publicized political rotisserie, courtesy of Greg Steube and Kurt Hoffman! Thanks guys for your idiotic legal advice! LOL

You post the same stuff over and over and everyone know the information, move on.

Kurt, that is totally not true. I had no idea that the 2nd DCA has a brand new online docket that is now available to the public. It may be old news to you because you're constantly dealing with it and you're constantly answering peoples questions about it, but it's new to the rest of us. But don't worry little Bucky because it will soon be over. Hummm or it won't be over anytime soon because:
1. Knight has received budget payments for court security services
2. that he has not been providing
3. so there should be a surplus of money
4. in case the appeals court rules that Knight must reinstate court security services.

Gee whiz, it doesn't look so simple anymore. Kurt, you bragged in your memo that "we are saving money by not providing these services anymore."

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Kurt, that is totally not true. I had no idea that the 2nd DCA has a brand new online docket that is now available to the public. It may be old news to you because you're constantly dealing with it and you're constantly answering peoples questions about it, but it's new to the rest of us. But don't worry little Bucky because it will soon be over. Hummm or it won't be over anytime soon because:
1. Knight has received budget payments for court security services
2. that he has not been providing
3. so there should be a surplus of money
4. in case the appeals court rules that Knight must reinstate court security services.

Gee whiz, it doesn't look so simple anymore. Kurt, you bragged in your memo that "we are saving money by not providing these services anymore."

• I blame Kurt Hoffman for the legal stupidity of advising Tom Knight to defy the judge.
• Greg Steube also obviously played a behind-the-scenes role in this legal and political stupidity.
• Steube was also probably the genesis of his “staged act” at the security checkpoint, along with his "staged email" to Knight shortly thereafter.
• However, in the end, it was Knight who made the final decision to publicly disobey the court order. Knight did it all by himself, even if he was led down the path of stupidity by Hoffman and Steube. Knight was a willing jackass.

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• I blame Kurt Hoffman for the legal stupidity of advising Tom Knight to defy the judge.
• Greg Steube also obviously played a behind-the-scenes role in this legal and political stupidity.
• Steube was also probably the genesis of his “staged act” at the security checkpoint, along with his "staged email" to Knight shortly thereafter.
• However, in the end, it was Knight who made the final decision to publicly disobey the court order. Knight did it all by himself, even if he was led down the path of stupidity by Hoffman and Steube. Knight was a willing jackass.

Yes, the whole thing definitely seemed staged from the very beginning. However, it obviously didn’t go as they planned (by Sheriff Thomas M. Knight, Senator Greg Steube and Colonel Kurt Hoffman), as is evidenced by the fact that their plan quickly devolved into a legal quagmire, followed by a political death spiral.

SSO “court services bureau” (CSB) has admirably performed these “legally questioned” administrative and statutory functions, without any legal complaints or political issues, for many years – up until Knight got elected. Knight then abruptly stopped performing these security functions, with Hoffman’s approval, which led the chief judge to order Knight to reinstate those decades-old CSB functions. Knight refused. And Knight remains in violation of the court’s order, which is why this particular case remains a big issue. Public safety is at stake.

Under normal circumstances, a non-defiant sheriff would have taken two legal steps:
1. First, obey the court order.
2. Second, appeal the court order and seek to get it reversed.

But in this odd fellow’s case:
1. Knight first disobeyed the court’s order
2. and then Knight continued disobeying the order, even after it was publicized
3. and Knight remains in violation (or defiance) of the court’s order, up until this very day (11.17.17).

This is out of the norm and is highly unorthodox.

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You are trying to make this a big deal and it is not. Courts rule on disputes all the time, and the Sheriff with comply if the Court orders him to. If you are so upset by what the Sheriff does leave. You post the same stuff over and over and everyone know the information, move on. Why not find something positive to post about? I am sure after this you will turn it around and cut and past the same stuff over again. you are a sad sad person.

Dear Tom et al,

Please give us something good to post about and we will. You do nothing but make our lives miserable with your back stabbing, poor policy institution, hot headed unstableness and totally ridiculous promotions.

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• I blame Kurt Hoffman for the legal stupidity of advising Tom Knight to defy the judge.
• Greg Steube also obviously played a behind-the-scenes role in this legal and political stupidity.
• Steube was also probably the genesis of his “staged act” at the security checkpoint, along with his "staged email" to Knight shortly thereafter.
• However, in the end, it was Knight who made the final decision to publicly disobey the court order. Knight did it all by himself, even if he was led down the path of stupidity by Hoffman and Steube. Knight was a willing jackass.

Knight is wrong.
Hoffman is wrong.
Steube is wrong.

THAT’S WHY SENATOR GREG STEUBE TRIED TO CHANGE THE LAW this year (but failed). Since Steube was unable to change the law, Knight will be helpless, if or when the appeals court rules against him – at least until 2018 when the Florida legislature reconvenes, whereupon Steube may tried to change the law (again). Steube is using very confusing language to bury the REAL intent of his proposed change-in-law. However, legislators are not the only hawks watching this issue – because judges (and their legal advocates-lobbyists) are watching it too!!!!

Knight finds it easy (and funny) to crap on helpless deputies, but he will find it significantly more difficult to crap on judges. He will also experience back-splash (or splash-back) when he hurls his crap at judges.

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Tom Knight and Greg Steube are two political peas in a pod. Prior to getting in political bed with Knight, Steube had some credibility. However, Steube’s last shenanigan with Knight (in reference to Knight v. 12th Judicial Court) attracted a lot of negative attention (and bad press). Steube will never propose any legislative action that would discredit Knight’s unethical actions.

Yes, God forbid that Knight would take steps to protect his deputies and prevent violating the US Bill of Rights !!

1. Chief Judge Charles Williams disagrees with Knight (and you).
2. The entire 12th Judicial Circuit Court disagrees with Knight (and you).
3. The 2nd District Court of Appeals is getting ready to issue a ruling against Knight, so they too disagree with you.

Who the F does Knight think he is to defy the court? That was a slick (or greasy) try by Knight! His knightmare is expanding and it must be stopped by the court. Unbelievable...

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You are trying to make this a big deal and it is not. Courts rule on disputes all the time, and the Sheriff with comply if the Court orders him to. If you are so upset by what the Sheriff does leave. You post the same stuff over and over and everyone know the information, move on. Why not find something positive to post about? I am sure after this you will turn it around and cut and past the same stuff over again. you are a sad sad person.

Exactly right.

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1. Chief Judge Charles Williams disagrees with Knight.
2. The entire 12th Judicial Circuit Court disagrees with Knight.
3. The 2nd District Court of Appeals is getting ready to issue a ruling against Knight.

Who the F does Knight think he is to defy the court? That was a slick (or greasy) try by Knight! His knightmare is expanding and it must be stopped by the court. Unbelievable...

I have no idea which way the appellate court will rule, but others seem to think that they will rule against Knight. From a common sense perspective, it seems that what Knight did was unorthodox, unprecedented and dangerous. It will serve Knight well if the court sustains the ruling against him. I also wonder how the H-T will handle it?

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I have no idea which way the appellate court will rule, but others seem to think that they will rule against Knight. From a common sense perspective, it seems that what Knight did was unorthodox, unprecedented and dangerous. It will serve Knight well if the court sustains the ruling against him. I also wonder how the H-T will handle it?

The Law and Constitution is on Knight's side. That is why the Judge knew better than to cite him for Contempt of Court. The judge will be lucky to keep his job.