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03-20-2017, 02:41 AM #11UnregisteredGuest
You're right on the money. The Colonel is not a leader and never has been. He is a self serving jackoff who has done little or nothing since taking command of the jail. All of these problems have increased under his watch and it's amazing that the sheriff can't see that he has no leadership or people skills. It's time for a change in command at the jail. Wake up Bob and recognize that you need a real leader at the jail.
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03-20-2017, 07:22 PM #12UnregisteredGuest
Looks like a nerve got struck, which involved party are you?
FYI: if you are using a phone issued by the SO or are receiving a stipend for using your personal phone for SO operations they can pull it at any time. If you're not getting compensation then they would have to get a court order during the investigation unless you hand it over willingly.
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03-20-2017, 08:10 PM #13UnregisteredGuest
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03-20-2017, 09:28 PM #14UnregisteredGuest
You are absolutely right. They don't have a right to your personal cell phone unless they have a Subpeana. If they threaten you or fire you, you will get your job back by civil review board. It's iillegal and they need a Subpeana in order to get it. If it ain't criminal, good luck on that Subpeana. Just tell them that you will sue them and see ya in court.
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03-20-2017, 09:47 PM #15UnregisteredGuest
Good luck with that. When you decided to work here, you also agreed to fully cooperate with all investigations. If they ask for your phone as part of the internal investigation, you are obligated to comply or resign. They can't use it against you criminally, but will use it against you as part of the internal investigation. Good luck trying to win back your job.
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03-20-2017, 10:02 PM #16UnregisteredGuest
First, please don't quote the law until you know what you are talking about. Second, learn to spell subpoena. Third, It takes a search warrant, not a subpoena for a criminal case. Agency Policy advises any phone. If a member doesn't agree with policy, fight it and see where it goes. All this keyboard tough guy stuff is just that.
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03-20-2017, 11:23 PM #17UnregisteredGuest
QUOTE=Unregistered;2744019]Looks like a nerve got struck, which involved party are you?
FYI: if you are using a phone issued by the SO or are receiving a stipend for using your personal phone for SO operations they can pull it at any time. If you're not getting compensation then they would have to get a court order during the investigation unless you hand it over willingly.[/QUOTE]
I am an unaffiliated party...you will be charged with insubordination if you do not give them your PERSONAL cell phone.
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03-21-2017, 01:43 AM #18UnregisteredGuest
I am an unaffiliated party...you will be charged with insubordination if you do not give them your PERSONAL cell phone.[/QUOTE]
Beats the heck out of being fired and dragging a dozen others down with you with the evidence found on your phone. It's none of their business anyway because it is your own private phone. Even if they fire you for insubordination you will get your job back and more in the civil service appeal. Then you can sue them for wrongful dismissal, defamation of character and legal fees.
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03-21-2017, 03:35 AM #19UnregisteredGuest
Beats the heck out of being fired and dragging a dozen others down with you with the evidence found on your phone. It's none of their business anyway because it is your own private phone. Even if they fire you for insubordination you will get your job back and more in the civil service appeal. Then you can sue them for wrongful dismissal, defamation of character and legal fees.[/QUOTE]
When you get off probation and get a little experience, you will begin to see how things really work around here. Failure to cooperate with an internal investigation will land you outside the SAB calling someone for a ride home. You won't win a civil service appeal and surely won't win any defamation or wrongful dismissal cases. That all sounds great, but isn't real. When you sign the GO's and SOP's, you agree to fully cooperate with internal investigations and that means handing over the phone if they ask for it.
It's pretty obvious what the problems are at the PCSO. People need to get their priorities straight. When you signed on to become a deputy, you agreed to come to work for 8, 10, or 12 hours and perform law enforcement duties in return for a paycheck and benefits. It's not high school. You aren't being paid to pick up women or men, play on phones and electronic devices, or f**k off. Grow up and put the effort into the job or find another line of work.
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03-21-2017, 10:16 AM #20UnregisteredGuest
Well said! This isn't Burger King. Have some morals, do your job, follow the rules and it won't matter what's on the phone. The biggest "FU" to an investigation would be handing them over everything and showing that you haven't done anything wrong. Not because you hid it but because you didn't do anything wrong so there's nothing to hide.
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