Sex on duty on SO property

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Un wanted sexual advances and sexual harassment claims are so slanted toward protecting the female and are vigorously investigated that any violation sustained by the male is harshly punished up to and including being fired. We can debate whether this needs to be modified to include mutual, consensual, activity by the female, especially if she has not complained about it prior to being investigated for violations of policy. It would seem that consensual sex while on duty, and on SO property would be a firing offense for both parties if sustained during a investigation period! I would think that if sustained loafing is a theft of taxpayers monies, sex on duty. certainly would be in the same category.

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Un wanted sexual advances and sexual harassment claims are so slanted toward protecting the female and are vigorously investigated that any violation sustained by the male is harshly punished up to and including being fired. We can debate whether this needs to be modified to include mutual, consensual, activity by the female, especially if she has not complained about it prior to being investigated for violations of policy. It would seem that consensual sex while on duty, and on SO property would be a firing offense for both parties if sustained during a investigation period! I would think that if sustained loafing is a theft of taxpayers monies, sex on duty. certainly would be in the same category.

Be specific, which one(s) are you talking about. The only AI report that says it happened on SO property was texting and socializing. It said nothing about sex happening on property.

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Be specific, which one(s) are you talking about. The only AI report that says it happened on SO property was texting and socializing. It said nothing about sex happening on property.

"Socializing?"?! As described by the IA findings , two consenting adults met repeatedly in an empty room with no cameras for longer than the allowed 30 minute meal break. Time to put cameras in every room including those of the command staff. Time to fire people who engage in improper relationships because it kills workplace morale in an environment in which morale is already rock bottom. Especially supervisors. There are many bad ones so don't be afraid to clean out the barn.

The females get off with a slap on the wrist while the males get far harsher punishments. But it takes two to dance and both parties know the rules. IAD is a joke. No credibility whatsoever.

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"Socializing?"?! As described by the IA findings , two consenting adults met repeatedly in an empty room with no cameras for longer than the allowed 30 minute meal break. Time to put cameras in every room including those of the command staff. Time to fire people who engage in improper relationships because it kills workplace morale in an environment in which morale is already rock bottom. Especially supervisors. There are many bad ones so don't be afraid to clean out the barn.

The females get off with a slap on the wrist while the males get far harsher punishments. But it takes two to dance and both parties know the rules. IAD is a joke. No credibility whatsoever.

You can't assume they were having sex in the room. Both of them had to say the same thing in order for AI to agree that there wasn't sex on site. There was another case around two years ago where the "couple" were having sex on property and while on the clock, the guy quit and the female got demoted with around 50 hrs time off. This last one said they were having an affair but were only socializing while on site and on the clock. One of the females he was having sex with got 40 hrs and removed from two programs. He got 80 hrs and a demotion, he was honest from what the report says but he was also screwing two different females while he was also married so I'm surprised he didn't get fired right then. He got fired on the new batch of charges for playing games and recording it.

As for cameras in all the rooms including supervisor's rooms all I can say is you're damn right! It's a government agency and there are inmates/wanted felons aka "bad people" if one of them was running loose it'd be easier to locate them on cam then running into potential trap rooms. Now with the obvious out of the way, it would also help deter employees from screwing around if they knew there was no place they could skip to if they wanted to slack. This isn't publix where the employees know the spot to hide so the manager doesn't find them. So it's either add cameras or get some supervisors that will get off of their asses and account for where their subordinates are.

But to be captain obvious here is the easiest solutions to stop the cheating: Hire only employees that care about their spouses or issue chastity belts.

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You can't assume they were having sex in the room. Both of them had to say the same thing in order for AI to agree that there wasn't sex on site. There was another case around two years ago where the "couple" were having sex on property and while on the clock, the guy quit and the female got demoted with around 50 hrs time off. This last one said they were having an affair but were only socializing while on site and on the clock. One of the females he was having sex with got 40 hrs and removed from two programs. He got 80 hrs and a demotion, he was honest from what the report says but he was also screwing two different females while he was also married so I'm surprised he didn't get fired right then. He got fired on the new batch of charges for playing games and recording it.

As for cameras in all the rooms including supervisor's rooms all I can say is you're damn right! It's a government agency and there are inmates/wanted felons aka "bad people" if one of them was running loose it'd be easier to locate them on cam then running into potential trap rooms. Now with the obvious out of the way, it would also help deter employees from screwing around if they knew there was no place they could skip to if they wanted to slack. This isn't publix where the employees know the spot to hide so the manager doesn't find them. So it's either add cameras or get some supervisors that will get off of their asses and account for where their subordinates are.

But to be captain obvious here is the easiest solutions to stop the cheating: Hire only employees that care about their spouses or issue chastity belts.

Their shift commander was Lt. Ross. We all know how that story ended.

The hiring of too many immature people indirectly led to these situations and others to come. There are not enough adults to train, supervise them and keep them in line. When the supervisors themselves are involved in such unprofessional behavior it's game over.