SWAT team

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It's a mystery. The PIO said we don't, which is why we didn't respond to Pulse. But then Rick Scott said:

In a statement from his office, Scott said the state’s nearly 4,000 sworn law-enforcement officers deserve the pay raise for their work in the past year, which included responding to two hurricanes and responding to the Pulse Nightclub shootings this summer.

Also:

Scott said Thursday that the officers deserve more money, citing their efforts at the Pulse nightclub massacre in Orlando

So, at this point it's really unknown if FHP has a SWAT team or if the PIO straight-out lied to the media.

To answer your question we do not have a SWAT TEAM! We have a SRT (Special Responce Team) because of some BS standards that someone somewhere made up we lack a robot and bomb squad, apparently without those two things you can't call yourself SWAT. Whoooo whoooo whoooo. For your information been around your Swat for many years and watched them also call in the media and screw up! Becareful which hornets nest you beat on. You are not perfect either. And for your information round is a shape. Just remember you have your share of dough boys too. Oh and that big boy you are referring to bench presses Volkswagens on his off time and is good buds with all of you. Good job fair weather friends.

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To answer your question we do not have a SWAT TEAM! We have a SRT (Special Responce Team) because of some BS standards that someone somewhere made up we lack a robot and bomb squad, apparently without those two things you can't call yourself SWAT. Whoooo whoooo whoooo. For your information been around your Swat for many years and watched them also call in the media and screw up! Becareful which hornets nest you beat on. You are not perfect either. And for your information round is a shape. Just remember you have your share of dough boys too. Oh and that big boy you are referring to bench presses Volkswagens on his off time and is good buds with all of you. Good job fair weather friends.

because of some BS standards that someone somewhere made up we lack a robot and bomb squad, apparently without those two things you can't call yourself SWAT.

That is the most ridiculous thing ever posted on LEOAffairs. Because we don't have an EOD Team we can't call the tactical team SWAT? What the ****? I really don't even know how to begin to explain how wrong that is. First, SWAT and EOD are two completely separate disciplines. They often work on tandem, but the presence of one has nothing to do with the other. EOD teams are extremely expensive and labor-intensive to maintain. Plenty of cities have SWAT teams but depend on the County (or the State Fire Marshal) for EOD. You can call yourself SWAT, SRT(like Miami-Dade PD which does have EOD) TAC (Tallahassee PD), whatever you want. There's nothing legally relevant about the name.

The fact is, a news chann asked us why we didn't respond to Pulse. Kim Montes responded that we didn't because we don't have a SWAT team. Then we went on that exact same news channel showing off our SWAT team.

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To answer your question we do not have a SWAT TEAM! We have a SRT (Special Responce Team) because of some BS standards that someone somewhere made up we lack a robot and bomb squad, apparently without those two things you can't call yourself SWAT. Whoooo whoooo whoooo. For your information been around your Swat for many years and watched them also call in the media and screw up! Becareful which hornets nest you beat on. You are not perfect either. And for your information round is a shape. Just remember you have your share of dough boys too. Oh and that big boy you are referring to bench presses Volkswagens on his off time and is good buds with all of you. Good job fair weather friends.

Ha! Ha! Ha! Good answer. But from his looks it appears when he's done pressing those VW's he puts them between two pieces of bread and has himself a snack. Okay now that it's been clarified that you don't have an SWAT team but rather an SRT team I understand. I regret that I know absolutely nothing about an "SRT" team and what part of the law you guys operate from and what your SOP's are . . .could be... or might possibly be. Good luck you guys and hope it all works out for you.

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because of some BS standards that someone somewhere made up we lack a robot and bomb squad, apparently without those two things you can't call yourself SWAT.

That is the most ridiculous thing ever posted on LEOAffairs. Because we don't have an EOD Team we can't call the tactical team SWAT? What the ****? I really don't even know how to begin to explain how wrong that is. First, SWAT and EOD are two completely separate disciplines. They often work on tandem, but the presence of one has nothing to do with the other. EOD teams are extremely expensive and labor-intensive to maintain. Plenty of cities have SWAT teams but depend on the County (or the State Fire Marshal) for EOD. You can call yourself SWAT, SRT(like Miami-Dade PD which does have EOD) TAC (Tallahassee PD), whatever you want. There's nothing legally relevant about the name.

The fact is, a news chann asked us why we didn't respond to Pulse. Kim Montes responded that we didn't because we don't have a SWAT team. Then we went on that exact same news channel showing off our SWAT team.

THe poster that states certain requirements to be called a SWAT is correct and partially incorrect. Under Homeland Security Presidential
Directive 19 (HSPD-19) and various other post 9/11 directives in order to be a "TYPED" team or in other words receive federal money and training you must meet certain requirements.

FHP can call their team whatever they want however they are not a regional or TYPED asset listed in FEMA/DHS response guides for Florida. There are TYPE 1-3 for SWAT teams and to meet each level your team must have equipment training to meet that level.

ANd even if FHP wanted EOD team and could pay for it, its not their choice; they would have to apply to the FBI who would decide if their is a need based on the number of teams already in Florida..

So back to the poster yes FHP can call TRT SWAT or whatever they want, does not mean they meet the requirements to be considered an actual SWAT Team by National Standards

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THe poster that states certain requirements to be called a SWAT is correct and partially incorrect. Under Homeland Security Presidential
Directive 19 (HSPD-19) and various other post 9/11 directives in order to be a "TYPED" team or in other words receive federal money and training you must meet certain requirements.

FHP can call their team whatever they want however they are not a regional or TYPED asset listed in FEMA/DHS response guides for Florida. There are TYPE 1-3 for SWAT teams and to meet each level your team must have equipment training to meet that level.

ANd even if FHP wanted EOD team and could pay for it, its not their choice; they would have to apply to the FBI who would decide if their is a need based on the number of teams already in Florida..

So back to the poster yes FHP can call TRT SWAT or whatever they want, does not mean they meet the requirements to be considered an actual SWAT Team by National Standards

Poster here. First, HSPD-19 had nothing to do with SWAT teams or types thereof. But that aside, yes, there are DHS Standards for du but the actual name is irrelevant. Like Miami-Dade PD SRT. They are the primary team for the South Florida Regional Domestic Security Task Force, are one of the very few full-time teams in Florida. And Tallahassee PD, which is the primary team for the North Florida Regional Domestic Security Task Force, calls it's team TAC (Tactical Apprehension and Control).

The poster to whom I was referring was trying to make it seem like Kim Montes was telling the truth when she told the media we don't have a SWAT team, as if the nomenclature was relevant.

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Poster here. First, HSPD-19 had nothing to do with SWAT teams or types thereof. But that aside, yes, there are DHS Standards for du but the actual name is irrelevant. Like Miami-Dade PD SRT. They are the primary team for the South Florida Regional Domestic Security Task Force, are one of the very few full-time teams in Florida. And Tallahassee PD, which is the primary team for the North Florida Regional Domestic Security Task Force, calls it's team TAC (Tactical Apprehension and Control).

The poster to whom I was referring was trying to make it seem like Kim Montes was telling the truth when she told the media we don't have a SWAT team, as if the nomenclature was relevant.

Have read HSPD-19? The reason I threw this one out there is that it covers a lot of the EOD functions and capabilities. This is partly where the requirement for the EOD support to SWAT came from.. WHo do you think funds EOD teams and gives out Equipment grants so we can buy all this high speed gear? THE Feds and if you want their money you follow their rules to get it.

There is no SOUTH FLORIDA (RDSTF) There is a SOUTHWEST (6) and SOUTHEAST (7) And Palm Beach County and Miami-Dade split the region and are both the "Primary Teams" n that region. They both have ports, that region has two primary teams and two support teams.

Just as Region (5) Has two Primary Teams OPD and OCSO and SCSO as a support team.

But you are correct you can call your team whatever you would like. As many many "Teams" are a bunch of Bubba's with M4's. Just because they are called a SWAT team does not they meet all the mission capabilities to have such a name.

Now Back to FHP's team they do not call themselves SWAT, they call themselves a Tactical Response Team which is fairly accurate to the teams mission capability. They lack Hostage Negotiators, or a Tech section with electronics, nor do they have a CBRNE capability and have no EOD support.

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My post got cut off FHP also lacks Air Support, no aerial insertion platform IE Tiller Mounts, Fast Roping, hoist, nor do they have a Maritime Capability. Its not just them that lack that stuff MOST SWAT teams dont have everything it takes to be a typed team and would fall into the category of un-typed or unranked team. Which means they get passed over for money and missions..

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Have read HSPD-19? The reason I threw this one out there is that it covers a lot of the EOD functions and capabilities. This is partly where the requirement for the EOD support to SWAT came from.. WHo do you think funds EOD teams and gives out Equipment grants so we can buy all this high speed gear? THE Feds and if you want their money you follow their rules to get it.

There is no SOUTH FLORIDA (RDSTF) There is a SOUTHWEST (6) and SOUTHEAST (7) And Palm Beach County and Miami-Dade split the region and are both the "Primary Teams" n that region. They both have ports, that region has two primary teams and two support teams.

Just as Region (5) Has two Primary Teams OPD and OCSO and SCSO as a support team.

But you are correct you can call your team whatever you would like. As many many "Teams" are a bunch of Bubba's with M4's. Just because they are called a SWAT team does not they meet all the mission capabilities to have such a name.

Now Back to FHP's team they do not call themselves SWAT, they call themselves a Tactical Response Team which is fairly accurate to the teams mission capability. They lack Hostage Negotiators, or a Tech section with electronics, nor do they have a CBRNE capability and have no EOD support.

Actually, FHP calls it's team "SRT" and has for a few years now. That designation, ironically is also used by Miami-Dade PD for its team which by all accounts is one of the most professional and capable units in the State...with access to everythjng you mentioned (EOD, Airborne and Marine assets, etc)

The point is that a poster tried to defend FHP's PIO who told a media outlet that the reason we didn't respond to the worst terror attack in the United States since 9/11 is because we didn't have a SWAT team...then a few months later FHP, in its infinite wisdom, decides to call that very same news channel and invite them to ride along with FHP's Special Response Team on a high-risk warrant service.

Also, as an aside, just about 8 hours before Pulse, FHP's SRT actually did respond to a barricaded suspect situation in the City of Orlando that started on the Turnpike.

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Poster here. First, HSPD-19 had nothing to do with SWAT teams or types thereof. But that aside, yes, there are DHS Standards for du but the actual name is irrelevant. Like Miami-Dade PD SRT. They are the primary team for the South Florida Regional Domestic Security Task Force, are one of the very few full-time teams in Florida. And Tallahassee PD, which is the primary team for the North Florida Regional Domestic Security Task Force, calls it's team TAC (Tactical Apprehension and Control).

The poster to whom I was referring was trying to make it seem like Kim Montes was telling the truth when she told the media we don't have a SWAT team, as if the nomenclature was relevant.

What I understand from reading this bs is the obvious fhp does not have a swat team but a SRT team so what's the issue?

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Actually, FHP calls it's team "SRT" and has for a few years now. That designation, ironically is also used by Miami-Dade PD for its team which by all accounts is one of the most professional and capable units in the State...with access to everythjng you mentioned (EOD, Airborne and Marine assets, etc)

The point is that a poster tried to defend FHP's PIO who told a media outlet that the reason we didn't respond to the worst terror attack in the United States since 9/11 is because we didn't have a SWAT team...then a few months later FHP, in its infinite wisdom, decides to call that very same news channel and invite them to ride along with FHP's Special Response Team on a high-risk warrant service.

Also, as an aside, just about 8 hours before Pulse, FHP's SRT actually did respond to a barricaded suspect situation in the City of Orlando that started on the Turnpike.

And the CITY (OPD) handled the call on the Turnpike as it turned into a hostage situation not FHP.. So what is your point in bringing that up? FHP TRT TOT'd the call to OPD>.

I agree bonehead move on FHPs part to invite the new media along... And there are 4 TRT's through out the state..