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That's the dumbest thing I've ever read on LEOAffairs, and that's the saying a lot. "Policy or not"----so Deputies are supposed to pick and choose which policies they should follow to give us (FHP) a break? Do you think their IA is going to say "Well, the Sheriff has said you won't have any involvement with crashes, but FHP was busy so it's OK"?

Could you imagine if on a scene a Deputy told you to violate an FHP policy (and get put under OIG investigation) because they were busy?

FHP shouldn't be the Community Service Officers or subservient to any PD or SO but the responsibility for that lies with the Sheriffs, Chiefs and spineless FHP administrators who have continued this situation over the years.

Nothing in Florida Statute 316.066 give the SO's or PD's or any law enforcement officer the power to not investigate and report traffic crashes. They are in fact required by law required to investigate and report. Instead they choose to ignore the law and implement a policy that supposedly supersedes it?

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Nothing in Florida Statute 316.066 give the SO's or PD's or any law enforcement officer the power to not investigate and report traffic crashes. They are in fact required by law required to investigate and report. Instead they choose to ignore the law and implement a policy that supposedly supersedes it?

I think you need to read 316.066 again. No where in it does it require anyone to investigate any accident. It does require those who do investigate accidents to file long forms on certain accidents and gives the option of short forms or drivers exchange on the others.

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This question is not meant for disrespect, but why would a trooper ask for a local agency to respond to his crash scene to take a battery that occurred in his presence ? Like seriously is it a policy thing ?

Expect anything less from AAA with a badge? The trooper probably called 911. Leave the real police work to the real police.

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If yall are crying about a deputy not taking a crash, and why a trooper didn't work a battery that he witnessed, then there are few things we as troopers need to consider. We complain about how busy we are. Do we think for a second that the SO is not nearly as busy with high priority calls, which could potentially involve a CRIME. Lets face it we work wrecks, a non criminal infraction incident. 2) If we want the deputies to work our wrecks, than why have FHP? If a Sheriff wanted to, and some have, he could form his own THI unit to work fatalities. Most already have a "traffic unit". Why don't they do that and get rid of us? 3) The trooper should have worked the battery, especially if he witnessed it. He probably (if this story is true) had to write a supplement, or complete a witness statement as to what happened, which is 3/4 of the deputies report. Its the PC. Easy arrest for the trooper if he witnessed it, and easy conviction. He should have handled it because its a CRIME in his presence, not a rear end collision.

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Expect anything less from AAA with a badge? The trooper probably called 911. Leave the real police work to the real police.

Real police...LMAO! Ok hero.

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I think you need to read 316.066 again. No where in it does it require anyone to investigate any accident. It does require those who do investigate accidents to file long forms on certain accidents and gives the option of short forms or drivers exchange on the others.

Sure, you keep telling yourself that. Your interpretation is wrong and here's why.. Longs forms, which in many cases are required can only be completed by Law Enforcement or an agency appointed specialist. Not to mention that people must notify and wait for Law Enforcement when they are involved in these types of crashes or face criminal charges. Why do think people must wait for officers to respond? By your logic if someone crashes and hurts someone they can complete a long form themselves and leave. It is every officers duty and responsibility to respond to and investigate these crashes.

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Sure, you keep telling yourself that. Your interpretation is wrong and here's why.. Longs forms, which in many cases are required can only be completed by Law Enforcement or an agency appointed specialist. Not to mention that people must notify and wait for Law Enforcement when they are involved in these types of crashes or face criminal charges. Why do think people must wait for officers to respond? By your logic if someone crashes and hurts someone they can complete a long form themselves and leave. It is every officers duty and responsibility to respond to and investigate these crashes.

Except for the deputies who want to sit around for an hour or two and show their hours as assisting FHP so they don't have to answer calls.
This happens a lot more than you think it does around the state. State roads only for troopers and let the locals handle the local stuff.

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Except for the deputies who want to sit around for an hour or two and show their hours as assisting FHP so they don't have to answer calls.
This happens a lot more than you think it does around the state. State roads only for troopers and let the locals handle the local stuff.

Sooo. Your saying a deputy WANTS to babysit a wreck for 2 hours? I don't even like waiting for a wrecker.

And let's let the SO handle local roads, but why stop there? Does every county have a State designated road? What if it doesn't? So that means a SO will have to work all s4's thus showing the state that FHP is useless and not needed.

I am just saying, that FHP has ONE job and that's traffic. Let's do that job and not pawn it off.

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Sooo. Your saying a deputy WANTS to babysit a wreck for 2 hours? I don't even like waiting for a wrecker.

And let's let the SO handle local roads, but why stop there? Does every county have a State designated road? What if it doesn't? So that means a SO will have to work all s4's thus showing the state that FHP is useless and not needed.

I am just saying, that FHP has ONE job and that's traffic. Let's do that job and not pawn it off.

At least on state roads your area of responsibility is defined, not like it is now in a lot of places where the locals pick and choose what they want to work and pass off the rest to us. To adequately cover what we have now we need another thousand troopers slots and I don't see that happening in my lifetime. And yes there are state roads in every county of this state.

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If yall are crying about a deputy not taking a crash, and why a trooper didn't work a battery that he witnessed, then there are few things we as troopers need to consider. We complain about how busy we are. Do we think for a second that the SO is not nearly as busy with high priority calls, which could potentially involve a CRIME. Lets face it we work wrecks, a non criminal infraction incident. 2) If we want the deputies to work our wrecks, than why have FHP? If a Sheriff wanted to, and some have, he could form his own THI unit to work fatalities. Most already have a "traffic unit". Why don't they do that and get rid of us? 3) The trooper should have worked the battery, especially if he witnessed it. He probably (if this story is true) had to write a supplement, or complete a witness statement as to what happened, which is 3/4 of the deputies report. Its the PC. Easy arrest for the trooper if he witnessed it, and easy conviction. He should have handled it because its a CRIME in his presence, not a rear end collision.

A lot of the reason troopers don't want to, or won't handle non-traffic related criminal cases has to do with supervisors not wanting the paperwork about crimes which they know very little about. The liability falls back on them if trooper X does a DV battery arrest and is supposed to include a notification form, but sergeant Y has never made a DV arrest, so doesn't realize if the trooper missed something.