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    Today and the future

    Many posts over the last several months about the usual, jail vs road, favoritism, micro managing, who is getting promoted,etc. Clearly, Leo's are under attack from many, but the public that is law abiding, still supports us. Some observations, most law abiding only deal with us when they are the victim of a crime, or getting a traffic citation. It is paramount, that you treat these people professionally. No smart ass comments, no attitude about the call is chickenshit and not worthy of your time. Micro managing is a hot topic. Your getting paid well with the recent raises, and other benefits have come our way, after years of stagnation and budget issues. Efficent, competent deps seldom have issues with Supervision or activity. If you are having run ins with Supervision, look into a mirror and see how much of it comes from you. The Agency has gotten very young with a lot of deps with limited experience. Mistakes are going to happen, learn from them. Your attitude, motivation, and willingness to learn may give you the benefit of the doubt, on some matters. A bad rep of being lazy and less than efficient will stain you for your entire career once you fall into this category. Be ready for the next assignment. As you transfer to other Bureaus, less Supervision and more self responsibility occurs. Don't be the guy that bluffed his way to another assignment and when called on to produce falls short. Finally, no matter who you work for, find out what is expected, his or hers pet peeves and give it to them. If your not into the politics of the office, do your job and go home. Over time, your steady work product will be recognized, it just might not be as soon as the fast trackers. Relax, 30 to 35 yrs before you retire is a long time

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    Great. Another cheerleader for the Gualtieri administration. Blame everything on the deputies because the supervisors and administrators are perfect. Here are some common sense responses which you will not like:

    - quit wasting my time and taxpayers' money by creating incidents and exaggerating others to make you look good and enhance your stats. And stop being so paranoid about CYA, liability, lawsuits, etc.

    - micromanagement has reached ridiculous levels. Discretion is totally out. Nobody wants to make decisions because they fear it how they might be second-guessed by the administration. It's like having the Gestapo watching everything you do and questioning it.

    - we are getting paid good money. Unless you came here from Wal-Mart or McDonald's last year, the pay has always been good. What hasn't been good was 5 years' worth of a pay freeze which hurt everyone's paychecks and their pensions. The agency is located in a high cost of living county so it has to pay well in order to retain deputies. The idea that we should accept micromanagement because we get paid well is preposterous.

    - the agency has a lot of young members. Well that's what HR hires with the approval of the Sheriff. This youth tend results in a lot of promotions of people before they are ready to be leaders. Gualtieri purged many of the experienced leaders so he got what he wanted - a bunch of young guys who lack the experience and maturity to be supervisors. They make a lot of mistakes and are afraid to make decisions.

    - your steady work product will be recognized in time?! You are kidding. Not even in 30 years. Then agency is more politicized and polarized then ever, especially when it comes to assignments, appointments and promotions. Quality work is not recognized but political azz kissing is.

    - do your job and go home if you are not into agency politics. Finally some common sense. Better off, stay out of politics, don't take your job home and fly under the radar of the political azzholes and fast-trackers. The wheel turns and they may end up on the chopping block when the next administration takes over.

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    I wonder which post is constructive to a young dep? Kissing butt has nothing to do with the advice. Sounds like a good outline to follow for anybody that wants to make the best of this place. Coming to work angry and blaming anybody but yourself makes for a very long frustrating career provided you make it that long!

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    I wonder which post is constructive to a young dep? Kissing butt has nothing to do with the advice. Sounds like a good outline to follow for anybody that wants to make the best of this place. Coming to work angry and blaming anybody but yourself makes for a very long frustrating career provided you make it that long!
    Anyone planning to work in this agency deserves to know the truth not some sugar-coated company line parroted by political butt kissers.

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    Anyone planning to work in this agency deserves to know the truth not some sugar-coated company line parroted by political butt kissers.
    The truth according to who, not you!!!!! You are a malcontent who is so miserable you shud probably be BA. Go back IN YOR HOLE PLEASE.

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    Anyone planning to work in this agency deserves to know the truth not some sugar-coated company line parroted by political butt kissers.

    Then quit so no one has to listen to your incessant whining. Leave. Go find greener grass. etc., etc.

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    The malcontent does have a couple of points. There are the fast rising patronizing crowd that get every benefit of the doubt and first crack at transfers and etc. The O/P however has described a process that maybe useful to anybody that just does his job and goes home. No truer words can be spoken about 30 to 35 yrs is a long time. Whatever rep you have good or bad will stick with you at this place. I have seen too many good deps, get what they thought was short changed on a transfer, promotion, or discipline, develop a attitude, and absolutely sht can their careers because of it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    The malcontent does have a couple of points. There are the fast rising patronizing crowd that get every benefit of the doubt and first crack at transfers and etc. The O/P however has described a process that maybe useful to anybody that just does his job and goes home. No truer words can be spoken about 30 to 35 yrs is a long time. Whatever rep you have good or bad will stick with you at this place. I have seen too many good deps, get what they thought was short changed on a transfer, promotion, or discipline, develop a attitude, and absolutely sht can their careers because of it!
    The current regime has a unique talent for turning productive employees into miserable malcontents using corruption, nepotism, favoritism, sexism, etc. Good luck to all who hire on.

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    The current regime has a unique talent for turning productive employees into miserable malcontents using corruption, nepotism, favoritism, sexism, etc. Good luck to all who hire on.
    That sounds like the Rice era to me. Oh so do give it up just how has the current regime as you call it used sexism and nepostism or any of the other crap you mention? Sexism really? Is that like hiring big breasted females or something? Jealous are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    That sounds like the Rice era to me. Oh so do give it up just how has the current regime as you call it used sexism and nepostism or any of the other crap you mention? Sexism really? Is that like hiring big breasted females or something? Jealous are you?
    Rice was not as bad as Coleman but Gualtieri beats both of them.

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