Old School Beverage

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Ahh, old school beverage. What can I say?
Since I've been here, I've heard the grand ole tales of the good days when beverage agents carried dynamite and hand grenades, toted Tommy guns and chased the likes of Al Capone's moonshiners. Then there's old school beverage, with their tales of drive by inspections, letting complaints sit on desks for years until they could be 220'd without investigation, working a couple hours a day, and occasionally giving a kid or clerk an nta. I can hear the old school beverage rally cry of "back to the basics". Of course we all really know that back to the basics means back to not doing shit. The truth is that you old school beverage agents whine that we should only work beverage and tobacco but we all know that just means minors and the occasional liquor on a 2cop. In fact the agents constantly crying about basic beverage are the ones who never do anything. From what I have seen old school beverage agents are the whiniest, laziest, most incompetent employees of ABT! I can hear it now, the excuse that buying Viagra isn't a real investigation but a clerk selling a beer to a kid is? Last time I checked, selling a prescription drug to kids that could cause a fatal reaction was a felony and more serious than a beer! The only accomplishments that I can attribute to old school beverage is the loss of sworn agent positions and the need for daily activity reports. So, before you go out again and ignore all the obvious other crimes at licensed locations while you're bumbling your way through a vendor to vendor complaint, why don't you do us all a favor and find a job better suited to your skill set like a security guard or meter maid. Old school beverage has done enough to shame this agency over the years. I know this will cause great butt hurt for some of you and if it does, then this post probably refers to you. What it really boils down to is that the newer agents with real law enforcement experience are making you look bad, in fact the truth is we think you're a joke.

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Ahh, old school beverage. What can I say?
Since I've been here, I've heard the grand ole tales of the good days when beverage agents carried dynamite and hand grenades, toted Tommy guns and chased the likes of Al Capone's moonshiners. Then there's old school beverage, with their tales of drive by inspections, letting complaints sit on desks for years until they could be 220'd without investigation, working a couple hours a day, and occasionally giving a kid or clerk an nta. I can hear the old school beverage rally cry of "back to the basics". Of course we all really know that back to the basics means back to not doing shit. The truth is that you old school beverage agents whine that we should only work beverage and tobacco but we all know that just means minors and the occasional liquor on a 2cop. In fact the agents constantly crying about basic beverage are the ones who never do anything. From what I have seen old school beverage agents are the whiniest, laziest, most incompetent employees of ABT! I can hear it now, the excuse that buying Viagra isn't a real investigation but a clerk selling a beer to a kid is? Last time I checked, selling a prescription drug to kids that could cause a fatal reaction was a felony and more serious than a beer! The only accomplishments that I can attribute to old school beverage is the loss of sworn agent positions and the need for daily activity reports. So, before you go out again and ignore all the obvious other crimes at licensed locations while you're bumbling your way through a vendor to vendor complaint, why don't you do us all a favor and find a job better suited to your skill set like a security guard or meter maid. Old school beverage has done enough to shame this agency over the years. I know this will cause great butt hurt for some of you and if it does, then this post probably refers to you. What it really boils down to is that the newer agents with real law enforcement experience are making you look bad, in fact the truth is we think you're a joke.

I like to think everyone has some value in their opinion, but I have to add you are the exception.
There is no Beverage Department.
There are no Beverage Agents.
"selling a prescription drug to kids that could cause a fatal reaction was a felony and more serious than a beer!" This may be the dumbest thing anyone has ever said on this forum.

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Ahh, old school beverage. What can I say?
Since I've been here, I've heard the grand ole tales of the good days when beverage agents carried dynamite and hand grenades, toted Tommy guns and chased the likes of Al Capone's moonshiners. Then there's old school beverage, with their tales of drive by inspections, letting complaints sit on desks for years until they could be 220'd without investigation, working a couple hours a day, and occasionally giving a kid or clerk an nta. I can hear the old school beverage rally cry of "back to the basics". Of course we all really know that back to the basics means back to not doing shit. The truth is that you old school beverage agents whine that we should only work beverage and tobacco but we all know that just means minors and the occasional liquor on a 2cop. In fact the agents constantly crying about basic beverage are the ones who never do anything. From what I have seen old school beverage agents are the whiniest, laziest, most incompetent employees of ABT! I can hear it now, the excuse that buying Viagra isn't a real investigation but a clerk selling a beer to a kid is? Last time I checked, selling a prescription drug to kids that could cause a fatal reaction was a felony and more serious than a beer! The only accomplishments that I can attribute to old school beverage is the loss of sworn agent positions and the need for daily activity reports. So, before you go out again and ignore all the obvious other crimes at licensed locations while you're bumbling your way through a vendor to vendor complaint, why don't you do us all a favor and find a job better suited to your skill set like a security guard or meter maid. Old school beverage has done enough to shame this agency over the years. I know this will cause great butt hurt for some of you and if it does, then this post probably refers to you. What it really boils down to is that the newer agents with real law enforcement experience are making you look bad, in fact the truth is we think you're a joke.

My friend... take it easy and breathe! I don't know who you are and don't know what office you work for (Hopefully not mine), but let me give you a few pointers:

1. Stop acting like a whiny ROOKIE and point fingers at everyone else. "Waaaah, I do more work than him", "WAAAAH, he never does anything".

2. Worry about yourself and your own work product, not that of others. It is state government bud. Many of these slugs statewide you speak of aren't going anywhere because it takes an act of congress to get rid of someone. DEAL WITH IT! Also, most of them (I have an idea who you are speaking of) have some kind of connection or "hook up". VC, TC, FF, etc, could not get rid of them if they really tried and I don't think the new lady will either. So again, relax and worry about your own house!

3. Finally, stop believing in your own bullsh**. Yes, YOUR bullsh**! You are probably not that good and not as impressive as you think. Otherwise you wouldn't be at ABT with the rest of us. Just accept it that you ARE NOT the real police and life will go a lot smoother.

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Wow, seems as though people can dish it out on here but can't take it. As I've read through these forums it would seem that most of you prefer to take cheap shots and be derogatory. As for working in your office, I hope I don't either, no one wants their back watched by someone who is discontent and doesn't want to be there. I heard this website was a disgrace to the agency but until I looked at it today, I had no idea how bad it was. You keyboard commandos are cowards, you take cheap shots and talk trash but you stay employed because you are un-hirable anywhere else. The truth is most of you are just complainers and won't stop no matter which way this agency goes. You think by insulting the heads of the agency will accomplish anything more than making it harder for us all (if they read this nonsense). One trip here was enough to disgust me for a lifetime.

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Wow, seems as though people can dish it out on here but can't take it. As I've read through these forums it would seem that most of you prefer to take cheap shots and be derogatory. As for working in your office, I hope I don't either, no one wants their back watched by someone who is discontent and doesn't want to be there. I heard this website was a disgrace to the agency but until I looked at it today, I had no idea how bad it was. You keyboard commandos are cowards, you take cheap shots and talk trash but you stay employed because you are un-hirable anywhere else. The truth is most of you are just complainers and won't stop no matter which way this agency goes. You think by insulting the heads of the agency will accomplish anything more than making it harder for us all (if they read this nonsense). One trip here was enough to disgust me for a lifetime.

You took a few cheap shots yourself. Nothing hypocritical about that!

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Wow, seems as though people can dish it out on here but can't take it. As I've read through these forums it would seem that most of you prefer to take cheap shots and be derogatory. As for working in your office, I hope I don't either, no one wants their back watched by someone who is discontent and doesn't want to be there. I heard this website was a disgrace to the agency but until I looked at it today, I had no idea how bad it was. You keyboard commandos are cowards, you take cheap shots and talk trash but you stay employed because you are un-hirable anywhere else. The truth is most of you are just complainers and won't stop no matter which way this agency goes. You think by insulting the heads of the agency will accomplish anything more than making it harder for us all (if they read this nonsense). One trip here was enough to disgust me for a lifetime.

You need someone to watch your back while buying **** dope? How about the 14 year old in line behind you buying a monster drink?

Undesirable anywhere else? I found other jobs "undesirable." You know the one? The one with shift work, domestics, nights, weekends, holidays, crashes, and other miscellaneous and undesirable aspects of so called "real police agencies" I know plenty of "real cops" and almost everyone of them envy the way we do business.

I really don't care what we do. I can do felony cases. I can run kids or buy fake Coach bags. As long as it is high risk retirement I will continue to do whatever the relevant act of the day is.

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You need someone to watch your back while buying **** dope? How about the 14 year old in line behind you buying a monster drink?

Undesirable anywhere else? I found other jobs "undesirable." You know the one? The one with shift work, domestics, nights, weekends, holidays, crashes, and other miscellaneous and undesirable aspects of so called "real police agencies" I know plenty of "real cops" and almost everyone of them envy the way we do business.

I really don't care what we do. I can do felony cases. I can run kids or buy fake Coach bags. As long as it is high risk retirement I will continue to do whatever the relevant act of the day is.

Finally, someone with common sense! Anyone who believes that this job is hard is someone that never worked the road. The fools that complain here are going to complain us right out of a job and our high risk pensions. I have never seen a bunch of losers in one place. Forget about the crappy old days and your stupid mission nonsense and do what it takes to survive. I will stand on my head if I have too.

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I worked rough streets as a street cop. Ive been bitten, spit at, called every name in the book. Been hungry sitting on a crash for hours, wet, hot, cold, tired.

Youll never hear me complain driving two hours to buy fake viagra or drinking a state paid beer and throwing some cash in a slot machine.

Best job ever. If you ever forget that, go do a ride along woth your local pd on. Friday night.

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I worked rough streets as a street cop. Ive been bitten, spit at, called every name in the book. Been hungry sitting on a crash for hours, wet, hot, cold, tired.

Youll never hear me complain driving two hours to buy fake viagra or drinking a state paid beer and throwing some cash in a slot machine.

Best job ever. If you ever forget that, go do a ride along woth your local pd on. Friday night.

I second that; the next time you want to complain about Beverage, go work a 12 hour shift on a rainy Friday night in any urban Florida PD. Hopefully it will be a holiday. And you'll have to handle a MVA with injuries (and direct traffic) in the rain; handle a few domestics; a ripe DOA; a bar fight; a burglary investigation of a filthy, roach-infested apartment; deal with crazed, drugged-out suspects, and whiney, demanding victims. And if you doubt you would get all those calls in one shift.....you haven't spent enough (or any) time on the street. Every department has it's share of BS assignments and ****head co-workers, but I'll take the problems you deal with in ABT any day of the week. Of course, I wouldn't have to worry about weekends and holidays.....cause I'd be OFF!

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I second that; the next time you want to complain about Beverage, go work a 12 hour shift on a rainy Friday night in any urban Florida PD. Hopefully it will be a holiday. And you'll have to handle a MVA with injuries (and direct traffic) in the rain; handle a few domestics; a ripe DOA; a bar fight; a burglary investigation of a filthy, roach-infested apartment; deal with crazed, drugged-out suspects, and whiney, demanding victims. And if you doubt you would get all those calls in one shift.....you haven't spent enough (or any) time on the street. Every department has it's share of BS assignments and ****head co-workers, but I'll take the problems you deal with in ABT any day of the week. Of course, I wouldn't have to worry about weekends and holidays.....cause I'd be OFF!

Your post is very scary and I believe that you should tone it down it a little. Those are horrible things that you have to deal with as a cop. I can’t say that I actually did any of that, but I did see some shows on TV about it. I will even admit that the thought of having to work under those conditions made me wet myself. But just a little bit. I once had a store clerk laugh at me when I showed him my credentials but I had the last laugh. I walked outside as cool as a cucumber and called the sheriff’s office to respond. Trust me when the deputy showed up the clerk didn’t think it was a laughing matter anymore. I know that my experience is not the same as dealing with dead people or fighting bad people but the laughing was pretty loud and almost pierced my ear drum. When I went home that night and told my wife what happened she was very concerned for my safety and wanted me to change careers. She calmed down after a while but told me to never tell the kids that story. She is right I wouldn’t want them to worry.