Only One retiree gets a 13th Check this year

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The only lie that appears in these posts is that Ethics do not gel with Trespassing. The fact is that the Board paid over $300,000.00, $15,000.00 to the one that was trespassed . IF IT was not a violation of the law why did they pay the Plaintiff , especially when no monetary gain is provided in the law ?

Because it was cheaper and faster to pay to hide Kermit's illegal actions. It is laughable that Kermit followed the direction of the Board, since he illegally trespassed the retired FF before the Board even knew about it. And it was supposedly on the advise of Board Counsel? That's laughable too, because two years previously another Chairman tried to do the same thing and Board Counsel told the whole board they would be having illegal meetings (outside of the Sunshine Law, which has not been changed since) if they trespassed the same FF for the same flimflam excuses. In fact, when you read the transcripts of the Executive Sessions, you will find that none of the trustees even heard a peep out of the FF that supposedly made some comment and interrupted the meeting. This was a film-flam from the start and the Board got stuck trying to bury Kermit's mistakes. And it was the Board's own audio recordings that proved the FF's innocence in this case and note that the Board has now decided that they will no longer record their meetings, because they don't want anyone else in the future to use their own words against them, even though it's supposed to be a public meeting held in the Sunshine!

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Because it was cheaper and faster to pay to hide Kermit's illegal actions. It is laughable that Kermit followed the direction of the Board, since he illegally trespassed the retired FF before the Board even knew about it. And it was supposedly on the advise of Board Counsel? That's laughable too, because two years previously another Chairman tried to do the same thing and Board Counsel told the whole board they would be having illegal meetings (outside of the Sunshine Law, which has not been changed since) if they trespassed the same FF for the same flimflam excuses. In fact, when you read the transcripts of the Executive Sessions, you will find that none of the trustees even heard a peep out of the FF that supposedly made some comment and interrupted the meeting. This was a film-flam from the start and the Board got stuck trying to bury Kermit's mistakes. And it was the Board's own audio recordings that proved the FF's innocence in this case and note that the Board has now decided that they will no longer record their meetings, because they don't want anyone else in the future to use their own words against them, even though it's supposed to be a public meeting held in the Sunshine!

As all liars do, the liar accused the other of lying just to divert the blame off of his own back.
Ribbit, Ribbit, viva the Kermit!!!!

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Because it was cheaper and faster to pay to hide Kermit's illegal actions. It is laughable that Kermit followed the direction of the Board, since he illegally trespassed the retired FF before the Board even knew about it. And it was supposedly on the advise of Board Counsel? That's laughable too, because two years previously another Chairman tried to do the same thing and Board Counsel told the whole board they would be having illegal meetings (outside of the Sunshine Law, which has not been changed since) if they trespassed the same FF for the same flimflam excuses. In fact, when you read the transcripts of the Executive Sessions, you will find that none of the trustees even heard a peep out of the FF that supposedly made some comment and interrupted the meeting. This was a film-flam from the start and the Board got stuck trying to bury Kermit's mistakes. And it was the Board's own audio recordings that proved the FF's innocence in this case and note that the Board has now decided that they will no longer record their meetings, because they don't want anyone else in the future to use their own words against them, even though it's supposed to be a public meeting held in the Sunshine!

Are these Trustees STUPID or what ?Recordings will prove anything that they might be accused of is false, unless they intend to do something wrong, you would think they would want recordings to disprove any false accusations .

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Are these Trustees STUPID or what ?Recordings will prove anything that they might be accused of is false, unless they intend to do something wrong, you would think they would want recordings to disprove any false accusations .

You would think after all these years on the pension board and all of the extravagant mini-vacations on the City's payroll and the Pension Board's dime, Kermit and the others would have learned a thing or too. WE have paid him THOUSANDS of DOLLARS in salary and THOUSANDS of DOLLARS in travel to supposed "learn" how to govern our fund. Why is it that he and the rest of the board ignore all they are supposedly learning at these extravagant conferences?

Oh well, I guess I should run for the board so I can get some free trips. Ribbit, ribbit!

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You would think after all these years on the pension board and all of the extravagant mini-vacations on the City's payroll and the Pension Board's dime, Kermit and the others would have learned a thing or too. WE have paid him THOUSANDS of DOLLARS in salary and THOUSANDS of DOLLARS in travel to supposed "learn" how to govern our fund. Why is it that he and the rest of the board ignore all they are supposedly learning at these extravagant conferences?

Oh well, I guess I should run for the board so I can get some free trips. Ribbit, ribbit!

When did Trustees start getting a SALARY ? Payment for trips I knew, but salaries?

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When did Trustees start getting a SALARY ? Payment for trips I knew, but salaries?

All those junkets are on Professional Leave, meaning they get their regular salary while gone. When a Sergeant is making close to $100k a year, that's a lot of money for 4-5 mini vacations a year. Especially when he obviously isn't attending the training, otherwise he wouldn't be making the same stupid mistakes over and over.

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All those junkets are on Professional Leave, meaning they get their regular salary while gone. When a Sergeant is making close to $100k a year, that's a lot of money for 4-5 mini vacations a year. Especially when he obviously isn't attending the training, otherwise he wouldn't be making the same stupid mistakes over and over.

The bald buffoon might attend the meetings but is too dense to comprehend what is being taught to him.
Ribbit Ribbit. Viva Le Kermit!

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The bald buffoon might attend the meetings but is too dense to comprehend what is being taught to him.
Ribbit Ribbit. Viva Le Kermit!

He is too busy teaching West Law to get any thing out of professional Pension lecturers!

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Because it was cheaper and faster to pay to hide Kermit's illegal actions. It is laughable that Kermit followed the direction of the Board, since he illegally trespassed the retired FF before the Board even knew about it. And it was supposedly on the advise of Board Counsel? That's laughable too, because two years previously another Chairman tried to do the same thing and Board Counsel told the whole board they would be having illegal meetings (outside of the Sunshine Law, which has not been changed since) if they trespassed the same FF for the same flimflam excuses. In fact, when you read the transcripts of the Executive Sessions, you will find that none of the trustees even heard a peep out of the FF that supposedly made some comment and interrupted the meeting. This was a film-flam from the start and the Board got stuck trying to bury Kermit's mistakes. And it was the Board's own audio recordings that proved the FF's innocence in this case and note that the Board has now decided that they will no longer record their meetings, because they don't want anyone else in the future to use their own words against them, even though it's supposed to be a public meeting held in the Sunshine!

It was rumored that there were 2 other retirees who signed sworn statements that they could have made the disruption exclamations and not the one Kermit trespassed .
Viva Le Kermit he blew $300,000.00 of OUR funds !!!!

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Detroit used to issue a 13th pension check too.