Citizen Review Boad

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Why did the Chief quote Barak Hussein Obama and his edict to establish citizen review boards nation-wide?

Is that telling us something, quoting what was said in a meeting or buck passing?

Either way it's not for the good of our city and especially not our Officers.

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http://www.tampabay.com/news/localgo...-board/2243192

Nine Hours huh. If you want to judge police actions there should be an active requirement beyond one shift. Perhaps 10 hours a week or something similar.

Judged by the reasonable officer doctrine. Key part.

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If you don't believe your on dept cant investigate its own, a Chief cant make a decision, a Mayor cant make a decision based on the facts and not view a incident through a political advantage for votes, A State Attorney cant determine if theres any criminal wrong doing, FDLE cant determine any violations that would revoke your certification, then a non binding review board filled with political appointees is the least of your worries. Buckhorn supported the bike stops publically and then behind the scenes immediately curtailed it, Buckhorn was against any review boards and said so recently and now he submits one with no teeth. This shameless political half measure has already undermined the PD, and he hasn't even had to deal with a controversial issue yet. You are so screwed if he has to make a decision where votes are at stake.

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What is even better is the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) is one group pushing for the review board. CAIR has been accused numerous times to have ties with Islamic terrorists and terror groups.

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A true civilian review board cannot be appointed by the politicians from the jurisdiction the board is overseeing. A policy expert and a Assistant SAO would have to be available for guidance but not able to vote. Why not have a board convened from a random drawing of the jury pool. A policy expert can explain the dept policy and the ASST SAO could explain the law. This should guarantee no political hacks or activists find their way onto these boards

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"Why not have a board convened from a random drawing of the jury pool"

ROFL.. Are you kidding me? Why don't we go to your job (if you have one) and convene a review board made up of randomly drawn people from the jury pool, and let them act like subject matter experts in whatever it is that you do..

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I just saw on ABC Action News a one Pastor Bernice Powell Jackson from the United Church of Tampa griping about accountability. Pastor? C'mon. Pastor? You!, ma'am have NO credibility. Women pastors are not recognized by God. You're a fraud.
Go pound salt. You should be ashamed of yourself. I consider you "emissary of the devil".

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First of all, the Mayor should not have created this board in the first place. But since he did, what are all sides complaining about? They want the ability to pick their hand selected people to sit on this board. The reason, so they can have some influence on the outcome. The jury pool idea really only prevents anybody from being able to influence the board prior to it meeting to hear the case. You are naïve if you think Buckhorn or any politician will not nominate people that are sympathetic to the appointees views. The jury pool system may not be perfect, but its good enough for criminal and civil trials in this Country. Randomly drawing 11 people from that days jury pool, impaneling them that day to hear that case is a much purer process than any political appointment will ever be. A policy expert to explain the policy, and a SAO to answer any law questions with no ability to vote, is a better system than anything I have heard so far.

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First of all, the Mayor should not have created this board in the first place. But since he did, what are all sides complaining about? They want the ability to pick their hand selected people to sit on this board. The reason, so they can have some influence on the outcome. The jury pool idea really only prevents anybody from being able to influence the board prior to it meeting to hear the case. You are naïve if you think Buckhorn or any politician will not nominate people that are sympathetic to the appointees views. The jury pool system may not be perfect, but its good enough for criminal and civil trials in this Country. Randomly drawing 11 people from that days jury pool, impaneling them that day to hear that case is a much purer process than any political appointment will ever be. A policy expert to explain the policy, and a SAO to answer any law questions with no ability to vote, is a better system than anything I have heard so far.

You're on point.

But any form of accountability is unwelcomed to most folks in law enforcement.

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Todays Law Enforcement is under more scrutiny from its on internal investigations and policies than ever before. Add political correctness, liability and a less than objective media into the mix, and even the best among us realize that the more proactive you are, the higher your chances are that you will be the subject of disciplinary actions, more so now than ever.