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08-13-2014, 08:29 PM #1UnregisteredGuest
Lay off guidelines for sworn and civilian employees differ. Administration to blame.
The latest from the lay off rumor mill revealed an interesting fact. While the guidelines for lay offs for sworn officers are based on seniority, the guidelines for civilians are quite different. Throughout the day civilian MDPD employees who are currently on the Drop Program have been called in for meetings by supervisors and have been told that those civilian employees who are currently on the Drop Program will be the first cut and laid off. The rationale is that civilians employees on the Drop Program are considered retired and as such will be the first to go. The lay off guidelines are different for sworn personnel though. Rather than laying off sworn personnel who are currently on the Drop Program, the MDPD is laying off sworn employees based on seniority. Why are two of sets lay off guidelines being utilized you may ask? At current time, the MDPD director, at least three chiefs and many majors are enrolled in the Drop Program. That being the case and considering that those employees are already retired and making the higher salaries, they should be the first laid off as well. The problem here is that that director and his staff has drafted the lay off list and would be crazy to cut their own throats. This information has been passed to the PBA and the media. It may come to it that we may yet see our director, chiefs and majors joining rookie officers at the unemployment line.
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08-13-2014, 08:49 PM #2UnregisteredGuest
Well they may be treating them different, but everyone sworn or not signs paper when they enter the DROP telling them that they are retired and are not guaranteed the full five years of DROP employment. I think lower seniority sworn employees have a good grievance if laid off before retired DROP employee.
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08-13-2014, 10:38 PM #3UnregisteredGuest
You may be on to something here. How many sworn/civilian are currently enrolled in DROP at MDPD? It has to be in the hundreds. How about county wide in all other 25 departments? Maybe more than one thousand. Those employees already retired in place and are only increasing their retirement. They should be the first to go.
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08-13-2014, 11:36 PM #4
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they get their drop money when they leave which in many cases is six figures each, millions cumulatively
Is that already banked by the state FRS?
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08-14-2014, 04:41 AM #5UnregisteredGuest
Many of these employees may have to chose whether it is worth it to get laid off, with what they have in the DROP or rescind their retirement and keep working. Which should be permitted just as if they decided to keep working after their regular scheduled DROP termination date.
Contrary to the outrageous bullshit about high pensions, civilians making $50K a year will end up with a pension that's about $23 K a year. If the stayed in DROP the entire 5 years they will have a $23 k a year pension and about $119,000 Drop payout (Figures are not exact). Yes a six figure sum, but that doesn't go far.
For many of these employees it may be worth it to stay on the books with 30 plus years of seniority, corresponding high salary and lose what is in their DROP, rather than to take their drop accumulation and be laid off.
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08-14-2014, 10:20 PM #6Guest1911Guest
Look at you guys they have you going at each other, with this Drop, seniority, civilian crap. How sad, they are laughing at you guys tearing each other apart, for some of those last spots that might be left to stay.
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