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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guest
    Judge Lakin???

    Carjacker with gang ties gets leniency from Manatee judge

    The emotional moment occurred after Fernando Cabrera, a documented member of the SUR-13 Manatee County street gang since he was 15, received a split sentence for a 2011 carjacking the year he joined the gang. Cabrera's name with the gang is Raider. Pictures were shown of Cabrera giving hand signs for SUR-13 on social media sites.
    Sorry, Don't think much of this judge.
    He is a goof. Nobody thinks much of his decisions.

  2. #12
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    Most judges have better judgement.

    On Thursday, Manatee County Judge Charles Roberts sentenced Delerme, 31, to 20 years in prison after pleading no contest to a charge of attempted capital sexual battery.

    Delerme also received a 15-year sentence for traveling to meet a parent to solicit a child for a sex act. That sentence will run concurrent with the 20-year sentence
    http://www.heraldtribune.com/article...-sting-charges

  3. #13
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    West 40, thanks for listing this news release and this sex offender got what he deserved. He place the Craigslist ad specifically looking for a mother and daughter NSA encounter and the judge and Prosecutor did this right. This guy was a sicko and should rot in jail for all I care.

    Unfortunately, that is not the case for many others. Many of these men in the "Green Shepard" sex stings have been entrapped. Yes you have caught a few that are real predators and this one but you are only talking about 2 or 3 from over 70 men. That is 67 lives that you have ruined just so that Manatee County can have the numbers to show DoJ that they are spending the federal funds correctly and to justify getting more.

    Go check the court records and you will see that very, very few got DOC. More than the majority got probation, a few were dismissed, and a couple of "Not Guilty.

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    Roberto Delerme traveled from his home in Pinellas County to Bradenton to have sex with a woman and her 11-year-old niece.

    The surprise for him, though, the woman was actually an undercover agent as part of sting operation targeting predators soliciting children for sex.

    Delerme, 31, pled no contest and was convicted of attempted sexual battery, resisting arrest without violence and traveling to meet a parent to solicit or entice a child to commit a sex act in April. On Thursday, Delerme was sentenced to 20 years in state prison to be followed by five years of sex offender probation. Once released from prison he will also have to register as a sexual predator.

    Assistant State Attorney Jeffrey Siegal said he was pleased the judge accepted his recommendation for sentencing.

    "The reason we have this type of cases is to catch these types," Siegal said. "It's unfortunate to have a victim, though."

    Delerme was arrested on Sept. 13, 2012, as part the first Green Sheppard undercover child sex sting operation by the Manatee County Sheriff's Office.

    "Every year it gets better and better," Siegal said. "The way the police conduct their investigation it is very fluid."
    http://www.bradenton.com/2014/05/23/.../99/100/&ihp=1

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    I notice this comment posted in another county's blog and find it very appropriate advice for those men who feel that they have been entrapped by law enforcement in the Green Shepard Stings.

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    Yep. Appears like the State as well did not like the way the Task Force ran the Sting for them to consider dropping some of the charges from 3 to 1. Also understand that they are offering a lot of probation with no sex offender registration to a bunch for fear that they will lose in Court.

    I read this recommendation in one of the comments in a news release of the Manatee County sting and it makes pretty good sense:
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    Some advice for those arrested in ICAC Program approved Internet Sex Stings that are still going thru the Court process:
    Here is a recommendation for you individuals that truly feel that the ICAC Task Force members conducted an illegal DoJ approved ICAC Program internet sex sting that ENTRAPPED you.
    You need to run your case all the way to jury selection and even trial and force your public defenders (PDs) or private defense attorneys (PDAs) to submit every possible Motion (Suppress, Double Jeopardy, Dismiss, Dismiss L&L, Compel (all evidence, ICAC Investigative and Operational Standards employed in the operation, Sting Operational Plan, copies of the operational briefing, copy of the States MOU with DOJ ICAC Program Manager), etc, etc.) to the Court and make the Prosecutor work his ass off until he is so fed up with this that he works with his Boss to offer a good Plea, dismiss or drop charges.
    Please, please, don't take the first Plea offerings. This is what they all want you to do. Many of you have been ENTRAPPED via illegal internet website postings where the Undercover Agents have posted in adult websites and during the conversations, did a "bait and switch" scenario. These ads have been ruled in many States as law enforcement soliciting, luring and enticing innocent law-abiding men who were seeking an No Strings Attached encounter with another adult and had no intention of a sexual contact with a minor.
    Ask yourself, "Who is doing the soliciting, Who is doing the luring and enticement, Who is sending a picture of a minor to whom, Who is lying and posing as an adult, Who is asking you to bring condoms, Who is asking you to travel, Who is ignoring your initial "No" or "This is illegal to have sex with a minor" comments and still coercing you to commit, Who is asking you what you would like to do to the minor, Who is making you commit and be descriptive about what you want to do with the minor, Who is asking you for the type of vehicle you are driving, when you are traveling and arriving, Who is calling or texting you back, again, and again, and again, after you do not initially agree to meet them, i.e. the minor or parent of a minor, Who is leading the conversation and bringing up sex with a minor, etc. etc. etc. These are all things that these Undercover Agents are doing which all fall into entrapment - soliciting, luring, enticing, etc. etc. Remember, when you went online to look for an NSA encounter, you did not do this in search of sex with a minor. The Undercover Agent set you up and had the total mission to do the above to stack the numbers and help prove to the Public that they are trapping real Sex Predators and that is the story the Sheriffs are giving the media and public. They are not releasing the rest of the story of their conduct and the illegal actions that they have undertaken to ENTRAP these innocent men.
    If you are a real sexual predator, then you need to face your punishment and you have been caught and I applaud the ICAC Task Force for catching you. The Courts will clearly decide this. All others, go fight your cases.
    PD and some private defense attorneys (PDA) just don’t want to do all of this work and will recommend against this since they feel that you will get nowhere with it. BS Make them work to support you and if they don’t, dump them. Ask for another PD and don’t pay your PDA and request a refund. Get this wording added to your contract that you sign with the PDA so he knows up front that you are paying him/her to work in your interest, and not that of the Prosecutor or Court. The least amount of time that he/she spends on your case affords them more time to take on other cases. Don’t pay your PDA all the money upfront and don’t agree to a non-refundable amount. Add to the contract how you desire to pay him in Month, Quarterly installments as the case progresses and then the final payment at the end if your case goes to trial. You will see that many will agree to this payment schedule and then you have control of your defense destiny. If the PDA does not want to work with you on this, then keep looking and searching for one that will using the free consultations that most of them offer.
    It is just sad to keep hearing that PDs and PDAs won’t do the Motions or have recommended against them, see no value in doing this or that Motion, etc. etc. etc. It is your life, and not theirs. They know that this is additional painstaking, tedious and detailed work and the least that they have to do the better for them as well. Remember, they also have heavy case loads but that is their problem.
    This is why many, many, many of them seek to try to convince you that you need to take the Plea bargain, which they feel they have worked well for you and is in your best interest. Don’t get me wrong. There are many, many, many excellent PD & PDAs out there that really care and will bust their butts to work your cases but after reading a lot of the comments from prior defendants, I believe that there are more out there that are just coming to work and don’t want to invest the additional time that you need in your defense.
    As these Motions are submitted, the Court is either going to wake up or give in. Remember, both the Prosecutor and the Court as well have to write their responses and that is additional work for both and it starts developing a record of history of how they work, view and decide on these type of cases. They will make case law mistakes that will work to your benefit during the Appeal Process.
    One day when all of this blows up in their faces, the evidence of their impartiality will be documented and that can then be presented to interest groups, the media, etc. etc. They can never claim that they did not know what was happening and that they were part of the problem which they allowed to continue.
    My recommendation is to force the system to work for you. If you really feel that you were ENTRAPPED by the Undercover Agents assigned to this ICAC Task Force, then don't throw in the towel but rather, defend yourself and use the legal system to the fullest extent. Force our PD or PDA to write, file, and argue your Motions and make the Prosecutor and Judges have to research and provide justifiable response and decisions.
    Take your case all the way to jury selection and even trial if the Plea that you are willing to live with is not offered.
    By submitting all of these Motions and having them denied by the Court, you have the right to then Appeal to a higher court. The Appellate Judges are as well going to wake up when they start seeing so many appeals and they will as well evidentially get sick and tired of this.
    Force the legal system to work for you, not against you.

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    FIGHT YOUR CASES. :devil: :devil: :devil:

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    EXCELLENT ADVICE. MAKE YOUR DEFENSE ATTORNEY WORK FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

  6. #16
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    Pure BS the "John".

  7. #17
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    Guest what???? I was just emailed a couple depositions and trial transcripts on the DHS agent who supported the Manatee County Sheriff's Office in the Green Shepard internet sex stings and man were they interesting.

    Talk about lying her ass off to make the arrest. In both the depositions and the jury trials, she had different lies and could just not keep her story straight during both the defense and prosecution interrogations. Probably ineffective training by ICAC Task Forces. She admitted that she did not know this and that and they proved that she was doing the soliciting, luring and enticing by establishing the pace and tone of the conversation. She asked the defendant over 10 times to tell her what kind of sex he wanted to have with her and then finally gave him some ideas therefore being the 1st one to mention sex. You all call these legal tactics? BS

    This is the same type of illegal tactics that many of the Chatters are using and the ICAC Task Force Commanders are allowing them to use. I do hope that DoJ IG does an immediate investigation of these sex stings and fixes this immediately.

  8. #18
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    More BS there dis-honest "john".

    You're guilty and you know it!!!!

  9. #19
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    BBPD, where you one of those law enforcement officers involved in the Manatee County 'Green Shepard" internet sex stings? You sound like one.

    I believe now that Manatee County has the most dismissals, lowest sex offender registrations, lowest DOC pleas and convictions except from 1 Judge, and the most Appeals being process because of the questionable illegal solicitation tactics of law enforcement.

    This is very interesting information and sort of a slap in the face of the county's law enforcement's desire to not follow the ICAC MOU DOJ Standards and remain a loose cannon on running the stings in anyway they want to get the high arrest numbers and then go on TV News and claim and lie to the public that you followed the DoJ ICAC Standards.

    You are the one throwing out all the BS and I agree with HonestJohn and many others that these need to be investigated by the DoJ IG.

  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by RET VIETNAM VET
    BBPD, where you one of those law enforcement officers involved in the Manatee County 'Green Shepard" internet sex stings? You sound like one.

    I believe now that Manatee County has the most dismissals, lowest sex offender registrations, lowest DOC pleas and convictions except from 1 Judge, and the most Appeals being process because of the questionable illegal solicitation tactics of law enforcement.

    This is very interesting information and sort of a slap in the face of the county's law enforcement's desire to not follow the ICAC MOU DOJ Standards and remain a loose cannon on running the stings in anyway they want to get the high arrest numbers and then go on TV News and claim and lie to the public that you followed the DoJ ICAC Standards.

    You are the one throwing out all the BS and I agree with HonestJohn and many others that these need to be investigated by the DoJ IG.
    You believe what you want there buddy, but don't confuse it with facts, which you don't have.

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