Interesting article.

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What do you think?

http://www.flhsmv.gov/LECTaskForce/Juri ... Patrol.pdf

What do I think? I think we're fortunate for the most part we enjoy a good relationship with our county and municipal counterparts. Let's all do our part and work on keeping it that way.

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The 2 tear model is similar to what happens back home in Arkansas. In North Carolina, SO's don't do crashes.

That was over two years ago and FHP has made absolutely zero effort to move towards the recommendations the committee made. Another waste of time and money to come up with answers almost any trooper could have told you.

FHP needs to adopt the three tiered staffing model immediately and without delay.

Also, for those of you who still think FHP rules the roost you need to really read that whole report. It was chaired by a Sheriff, who just happens to like FHP, which is the first clue about who really runs law enforcement in Florida.

(Had it had been chaired by any number of Sheriff's that do not like FHP this whole thing could have gone a different direction, but I think Tallahassee knew that and purposely chose Sheriff Gee).

Here is a direct quote from that study:

Each Florida Sheriff is the chief law enforcement officer for their respective county. While the proposed methodology for FHP resource allocation is designed to standardize the Patrol’s approach, it is understood that individual Sheriffs should have a say in the overall approach to traffic safety in their community. Where the inclusive model is prescribed (FHP works all crashes on unincorporated state and local roadways in the county), the respective county Sheriff may elect to reduce the FHP staffing to the minimum model (SHS roadways), upon written mutual agreement between the agencies. The minimum FHP allocation model for any county will be the SHS roadway model.

The bottom line, FHP exists and exists in the form it does because the Sheriff's and to some extent the Chiefs of Police in the State of Florida want it to, (so they do not have to work traffic crashes). FHP is nothing more than a State subsidized traffic division for many of the States Sheriff's. Unfortunately as much sense as the tiered approach model makes there is no effort by FHP to move towards that model and its still business as usual, which means FHP is scattered about the State of Florida doing delivering services in 20 different ways as if sprayed from a garden hose. Totally inefficient and dysfunctional.

And we didn't even touch on the internal dysfunction like pay, incompetency, etc. etc. etc.

FHP, just a glorified traffic agency acting as a bunch of community service aides in a dysfunctional and efficient manner at the whim and will of Florida's Sheriff's....what a joke!

When the sheriff signs my paycheck I will give a shit about what he has to say and all the politics they bring into this profession.

That was over two years ago and FHP has made absolutely zero effort to move towards the recommendations the committee made. Another waste of time and money to come up with answers almost any trooper could have told you.

FHP needs to adopt the three tiered staffing model immediately and without delay.

Also, for those of you who still think FHP rules the roost you need to really read that whole report. It was chaired by a Sheriff, who just happens to like FHP, which is the first clue about who really runs law enforcement in Florida.

(Had it had been chaired by any number of Sheriff's that do not like FHP this whole thing could have gone a different direction, but I think Tallahassee knew that and purposely chose Sheriff Gee).

Here is a direct quote from that study:

Each Florida Sheriff is the chief law enforcement officer for their respective county. While the proposed methodology for FHP resource allocation is designed to standardize the Patrol’s approach, it is understood that individual Sheriffs should have a say in the overall approach to traffic safety in their community. Where the inclusive model is prescribed (FHP works all crashes on unincorporated state and local roadways in the county), the respective county Sheriff may elect to reduce the FHP staffing to the minimum model (SHS roadways), upon written mutual agreement between the agencies. The minimum FHP allocation model for any county will be the SHS roadway model.

The bottom line, FHP exists and exists in the form it does because the Sheriff's and to some extent the Chiefs of Police in the State of Florida want it to, (so they do not have to work traffic crashes). FHP is nothing more than a State subsidized traffic division for many of the States Sheriff's. Unfortunately as much sense as the tiered approach model makes there is no effort by FHP to move towards that model and its still business as usual, which means FHP is scattered about the State of Florida doing delivering services in 20 different ways as if sprayed from a garden hose. Totally inefficient and dysfunctional.

And we didn't even touch on the internal dysfunction like pay, incompetency, etc. etc. etc.

FHP, just a glorified traffic agency acting as a bunch of community service aides in a dysfunctional and efficient manner at the whim and will of Florida's Sheriff's....what a joke!

Fortunately, most sheriffs are progressive and understand the fact that there is more than enough to go around.

That was over two years ago and FHP has made absolutely zero effort to move towards the recommendations the committee made. Another waste of time and money to come up with answers almost any trooper could have told you.

FHP needs to adopt the three tiered staffing model immediately and without delay.

Also, for those of you who still think FHP rules the roost you need to really read that whole report. It was chaired by a Sheriff, who just happens to like FHP, which is the first clue about who really runs law enforcement in Florida.

(Had it had been chaired by any number of Sheriff's that do not like FHP this whole thing could have gone a different direction, but I think Tallahassee knew that and purposely chose Sheriff Gee).

Here is a direct quote from that study:

Each Florida Sheriff is the chief law enforcement officer for their respective county. While the proposed methodology for FHP resource allocation is designed to standardize the Patrol’s approach, it is understood that individual Sheriffs should have a say in the overall approach to traffic safety in their community. Where the inclusive model is prescribed (FHP works all crashes on unincorporated state and local roadways in the county), the respective county Sheriff may elect to reduce the FHP staffing to the minimum model (SHS roadways), upon written mutual agreement between the agencies. The minimum FHP allocation model for any county will be the SHS roadway model.

The bottom line, FHP exists and exists in the form it does because the Sheriff's and to some extent the Chiefs of Police in the State of Florida want it to, (so they do not have to work traffic crashes). FHP is nothing more than a State subsidized traffic division for many of the States Sheriff's. Unfortunately as much sense as the tiered approach model makes there is no effort by FHP to move towards that model and its still business as usual, which means FHP is scattered about the State of Florida doing delivering services in 20 different ways as if sprayed from a garden hose. Totally inefficient and dysfunctional.

And we didn't even touch on the internal dysfunction like pay, incompetency, etc. etc. etc.

FHP, just a glorified traffic agency acting as a bunch of community service aides in a dysfunctional and efficient manner at the whim and will of Florida's Sheriff's....what a joke!

A survey of Florida Sheriffs and Police Chiefs found wide support for the FHP, and specific support for the agency’s patrol of interstate highways 69%, state roads 78%, and even local roadways 40%. Some of the most compelling survey results indicated that local agencies view the FHP as a valuable traffic law enforcement resource with 86% indicating they want the FHP to be available to assist locals with “special events” and an overwhelming 97% indicating they want troopers to be made available for “emergency management and disaster response”. Nearly 60% of survey agencies indicated that they wanted the FHP to investigate their agency vehicle crashes.
The FHP is generally engaged in the right types of specialized activities according to the survey, with 81% agreeing or strongly agreeing with their Highway Drug Interdiction activities and 75% having similar sentiments about their role in Driver License Fraud and Identity Theft. The strongest favorable responses support a FHP role in “traffic safety education” and “traffic crash data analysis and dissemination” (87% and 94% respectively either agreeing or strongly agreeing with those roles).
The survey also reinforced widely-held perceptions about inadequate staffing at the FHP, as 69.5% felt their counties were inadequately staffed, 49% perceived that “current level of services” provided were lacking, and 67% believed FHP response time was “less than adequate”.

That was over two years ago and FHP has made absolutely zero effort to move towards the recommendations the committee made. Another waste of time and money to come up with answers almost any trooper could have told you.

FHP needs to adopt the three tiered staffing model immediately and without delay.

Also, for those of you who still think FHP rules the roost you need to really read that whole report. It was chaired by a Sheriff, who just happens to like FHP, which is the first clue about who really runs law enforcement in Florida.

(Had it had been chaired by any number of Sheriff's that do not like FHP this whole thing could have gone a different direction, but I think Tallahassee knew that and purposely chose Sheriff Gee).

Here is a direct quote from that study:

Each Florida Sheriff is the chief law enforcement officer for their respective county. While the proposed methodology for FHP resource allocation is designed to standardize the Patrol’s approach, it is understood that individual Sheriffs should have a say in the overall approach to traffic safety in their community. Where the inclusive model is prescribed (FHP works all crashes on unincorporated state and local roadways in the county), the respective county Sheriff may elect to reduce the FHP staffing to the minimum model (SHS roadways), upon written mutual agreement between the agencies. The minimum FHP allocation model for any county will be the SHS roadway model.

The bottom line, FHP exists and exists in the form it does because the Sheriff's and to some extent the Chiefs of Police in the State of Florida want it to, (so they do not have to work traffic crashes). FHP is nothing more than a State subsidized traffic division for many of the States Sheriff's. Unfortunately as much sense as the tiered approach model makes there is no effort by FHP to move towards that model and its still business as usual, which means FHP is scattered about the State of Florida doing delivering services in 20 different ways as if sprayed from a garden hose. Totally inefficient and dysfunctional.

And we didn't even touch on the internal dysfunction like pay, incompetency, etc. etc. etc.

FHP, just a glorified traffic agency acting as a bunch of community service aides in a dysfunctional and efficient manner at the whim and will of Florida's Sheriff's....what a joke!

Read the report and don't just pick and choose. Could you imagine an in depth review of the various SOs.