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I wan to be clear. The rasies are only for Lieutenants and below?

I would consider "non unit employees " every member of the represented agencies. I tried looking at the actual bill but couldn't locate what Matt stated about the non unit members being specified.

Yes

I wan to be clear. The rasies are only for Lieutenants and below?

As I hope this is true. The upper management has taken great care of itself as well as all their little buddies working in the buildings in Tallahassee. All one has to do is look at the salaries and see where an administrative assistant, sorry - government specialist of managment process specialties (a little title humor) in Tallahassee makes about 20K more then the officers on the front line. Capt's and above have been nicely taken care of. I would like to see the average of them that is at base salary for the pay band, not what the agency is calling base salary, but base salary of the pay band. Then compare that data to how many officers are at base salary of the pay band.

Anyways, good job so far, hopefully this will make it through.

[Matt Puckett]

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Stay safe out there.

Yes

I wan to be clear. The rasies are only for Lieutenants and below?

As I hope this is true. The upper management has taken great care of itself as well as all their little buddies working in the buildings in Tallahassee. All one has to do is look at the salaries and see where an administrative assistant, sorry - government specialist of managment process specialties (a little title humor) in Tallahassee makes about 20K more then the officers on the front line. Capt's and above have been nicely taken care of. I would like to see the average of them that is at base salary for the pay band, not what the agency is calling base salary, but base salary of the pay band. Then compare that data to how many officers are at base salary of the pay band.

Anyways, good job so far, hopefully this will make it through.

There is no need to attack our own when it comes to receiving pay raises. Only a small portion of upper management receives a decent wage.
Here is the skinny

Majors and about all receive the same pay as everyone in their rank classification.

Col - 129k
All Lt Cols - 120k
All Chiefs - 110k
All Majors -100k


Capts -
The lowest paid Capt. - 75k
The Highest Paid Capt. - 100k

Lts -
The lowest - 54k
The highest -94k


As you can see, Lts and Capts are also suffering pay compression because most of them were troopers when there was no pay raises and came on FHP after the step plan ended in 1990. Those high paying Lts and Capts came on when they were benefiting from the step plan (all 12 steps).


I do not remember which Col it was, but I think it was Hall that gave Majors and above a pay raise so they could all be whole and make the same pay within their same rank.

I agree that those Capts making 25k more than the lowest paid Capt., don't need a pay raise and those Lts making 30-40k more than the lowest paid Lt do not need a pay raise.
We have Sgts making almost as the lowest paid Capts and we have Sgts, Cpls and some troopers making more than Lts.

Those are the facts and I would suggest that you do your own research to verify what I posted and don't spread misleading information. In other words, don't make stuff up.

[Matt Puckett]

Matt, could you post these messages on the FWC site. Anyway thanks for the work PBA is doing trying to get us a raise.

As you probably saw by now, I posted the same information on the FWC forum. Hardly any views.

Matt, could you post these messages on the FWC site. Anyway thanks for the work PBA is doing trying to get us a raise.

As you probably saw by now, I posted the same information on the FWC forum. Hardly any views.

The Patrol has always been more involved when it comes to legislative affairs, more than anyother State Law enforcement agency. I guess because we feel the pain of being in the frontlines everyday and not getting appreciation. Most of state leos killed in the line of duty have been Troopers.

Keep up the good work Matt, we appreciate it.

Matt, could you post these messages on the FWC site. Anyway thanks for the work PBA is doing trying to get us a raise.

As you probably saw by now, I posted the same information on the FWC forum. Hardly any views.

Thanks for doing it. I think everyone is mostly coming here now as it appears this is the PBA forum, as I just found the actual PBA forum on the Florida page.

Yes

I wan to be clear. The rasies are only for Lieutenants and below?

As I hope this is true. The upper management has taken great care of itself as well as all their little buddies working in the buildings in Tallahassee. All one has to do is look at the salaries and see where an administrative assistant, sorry - government specialist of managment process specialties (a little title humor) in Tallahassee makes about 20K more then the officers on the front line. Capt's and above have been nicely taken care of. I would like to see the average of them that is at base salary for the pay band, not what the agency is calling base salary, but base salary of the pay band. Then compare that data to how many officers are at base salary of the pay band.

Anyways, good job so far, hopefully this will make it through.

There is no need to attack our own when it comes to receiving pay raises. Only a small portion of upper management receives a decent wage.
Here is the skinny

Majors and about all receive the same pay as everyone in their rank classification.

Col - 129k
All Lt Cols - 120k
All Chiefs - 110k
All Majors -100k


Capts -
The lowest paid Capt. - 75k
The Highest Paid Capt. - 100k

Lts -
The lowest - 54k
The highest -94k


As you can see, Lts and Capts are also suffering pay compression because most of them were troopers when there was no pay raises and came on FHP after the step plan ended in 1990. Those high paying Lts and Capts came on when they were benefiting from the step plan (all 12 steps).


I do not remember which Col it was, but I think it was Hall that gave Majors and above a pay raise so they could all be whole and make the same pay within their same rank.

I agree that those Capts making 25k more than the lowest paid Capt., don't need a pay raise and those Lts making 30-40k more than the lowest paid Lt do not need a pay raise.
We have Sgts making almost as the lowest paid Capts and we have Sgts, Cpls and some troopers making more than Lts.

Those are the facts and I would suggest that you do your own research to verify what I posted and don't spread misleading information. In other words, don't make stuff up.

I tell you what Capt, how about we trade salaries and we will see who has the agreeable gripe. Not all, or should I say many, of the promotions were made on merit. They were crony crap as always.

How about you post a list of all supervisors, Capt and up, and their pay for the last 8 years, then lets do the same for all troopers, officers, etc. that have been in the same rank for the same period of time.

I bet you don't want that information out do you overpaid Capt.

I am gonna cry, the Lt. Col makes over 100k, captains making around 70k, yeah we need to feel sorry for those wastes of space.

Matt, could you post these messages on the FWC site. Anyway thanks for the work PBA is doing trying to get us a raise.

As you probably saw by now, I posted the same information on the FWC forum. Hardly any views.

The Patrol has always been more involved when it comes to legislative affairs, more than anyother State Law enforcement agency. I guess because we feel the pain of being in the frontlines everyday and not getting appreciation. Most of state leos killed in the line of duty have been Troopers.

Keep up the good work Matt, we appreciate it.

Yes, you have had more line of duty deaths. Please tell me, which agency has anywhere near as many officers.....???? Oh thats right, none.

Idiot, don't use people's deaths as a reason to justify your idiocy. Every agency suffers losses, injuries, etc. Don't think you are better then anyone else because your statistic of more deaths means something to you.

We could say maybe the other agencies train better, actually call in 10-50's, and are in better shape. Maybe the other agencies don't have as many flunkies. Now that is all mean to say since we are talking about lost brothers, but don't be a big enough loser to use deaths as a reason to say YOU are better. You weren't killed, they were. The other officers with the other agencies may paint a similiar story. How about FWC having half as many officers, but roughly half as many line of duty deaths. Oh, what is that you say, that is the same ratio. How about most of the SO's have less then 8 line of duty deaths, I guess their jobs are not dangerous either.

You are not worth the time super trooper. Go work a Signal 4.