Decertification, Pensions and/or Crimes

Questions for LEO's:


If a 20 year veteran is FIRED (does not resign), would he/she lose his/her pension? Certification?



If that same 20 year veteran is charged with a FELONY and FIRED would he/she lose his/her certification? Pension ?


It was told to me that there are about 3-4 crimes that an officer can commit that would cost them their PENSION and that it is almost a guarantee that their certification will be taken. Is this true


If someone is arrested for serious felonies and they RESIGN, is there any difference as far as losing a pension and/or certification ??

Questions for LEO's:


If a 20 year veteran is FIRED (does not resign), would he/she lose his/her pension? Certification?



If that same 20 year veteran is charged with a FELONY and FIRED would he/she lose his/her certification? Pension ?


It was told to me that there are about 3-4 crimes that an officer can commit that would cost them their PENSION and that it is almost a guarantee that their certification will be taken. Is this true


If someone is arrested for serious felonies and they RESIGN, is there any difference as far as losing a pension and/or certification ??

You will see for yourself sometime soon. :cop:

More decerts coming.

YOu only LOSE your pension if you commit 1 of about 4 felonies, per Kendra Presswood. Decertification is a whole another issue. People like MP get decertified for something that all of us do on a daily basis and others that supposedly committed serious crimes dont lose theirs.


My .02

Looks the Herald-Tribune is going to answer that question soon: heraldtribune.com/unfitforduty

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Questions for LEO's:


If a 20 year veteran is FIRED (does not resign), would he/she lose his/her pension? Certification?



If that same 20 year veteran is charged with a FELONY and FIRED would he/she lose his/her certification? Pension ?


It was told to me that there are about 3-4 crimes that an officer can commit that would cost them their PENSION and that it is almost a guarantee that their certification will be taken. Is this true


If someone is arrested for serious felonies and they RESIGN, is there any difference as far as losing a pension and/or certification ??

CORRECT. I F M E R C U R I O were to be hit with a corruption charge (or McElyea, JJ etc.) then they would be fired, lose their pensions forever under the federal "just cause" act and lose their certificate.

Now, we would not like for MM to get caught would we ????? LOLOLOLOL

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CORRECT. I F M E R C U R I O were to be hit with a corruption charge (or McElyea, JJ etc.) then they would be fired, lose their pensions forever under the federal "just cause" act and lose their certificate.

Now, we would not like for MM to get caught would we ????? LOLOLOLOL

I too heard this from a VERY RELIABLE source. He said if you knowingly commit one of several crimes (public corruption, perjury etc), you will be decertified, terminated AND you will LOSE YOUR PENSION EVEN IF YOU RETIRED AND ARE NO LONGER HERE !!!!!


THAT WOULD SUCK !!!!!!!!!!

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Questions for LEO's:


If a 20 year veteran is FIRED (does not resign), would he/she lose his/her pension? Certification?



If that same 20 year veteran is charged with a FELONY and FIRED would he/she lose his/her certification? Pension ?


It was told to me that there are about 3-4 crimes that an officer can commit that would cost them their PENSION and that it is almost a guarantee that their certification will be taken. Is this true


If someone is arrested for serious felonies and they RESIGN, is there any difference as far as losing a pension and/or certification ??

The violation of Florida State Criminal Statutes and federal laws or the violation of individuals' constitutional rights by police officers; also when police commit crimes for personal gain.

Police misconduct and corruption are abuses of police authority. Sometimes used interchangeably, the terms refer to a wide range of criminal, and civil violations. Misconduct is the broadest category. Misconduct is "criminal" when it refers to police who violate state and federal laws; "unconstitutional" when it refers to police who violate a citizen's Civil Rights; or any combination thereof. Common forms of misconduct are excessive use of physical or Deadly Force, discriminatory arrest, physical or verbal harassment, and selective enforcement of the law.

Police corruption is the abuse of police authority for personal gain. Corruption may involve profit or another type of material benefit gained illegally as a consequence of the officer's authority. Typical forms of corruption include Bribery, Extortion, receiving or fencing stolen goods, and selling drugs. The term also refers to patterns of misconduct within a given police department or special unit.

Through both criminal and civil statutes, federal law specifically targets police misconduct. Federal law is applicable to all state, county, and local officers, including those who work in correctional facilities. The key federal criminal statute makes it unlawful for anyone acting with police authority to deprive or conspire to deprive another person of any right protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States (Section 18 U.S.C. § 241 [2000]). Another statute, commonly referred to as the police misconduct provision, makes it unlawful for state or local police to engage in a pattern or practice of conduct that deprives persons of their rights (42 U.S.C.A. 14141 [2000]).

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From day one, Knight has been completely unable to handle the agency. At an intuitive level, everyone senses that some sort of a 2nd floor meltdown is coming. The sudden departure of majors Jim Lilly and Kevin Kenney was a clue for outsiders, although insiders on the 2nd floor know the dirty scoop. Even those who are not employed by the agency are now intimately familiar with Knight's ineptitude, thanks to the media constantly reporting all this crap.

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From day one, Knight has been completely unable to handle the agency. At an intuitive level, everyone senses that some sort of a 2nd floor meltdown is coming.

Look at the unethical histories and records of the "managaement personnel" that Knight promotes and surrounds himself with on the 2nd floor. Look at Kurt Hoffman's fiascos regarding stealing porn, gas drives-offs, polygraph failures and whatnot.

The sudden departure of majors Jim Lilly and Kevin Kenney was a clue for outsiders, although insiders on the 2nd floor know the dirty scoop.

And what is the dirty scoop, regarding their departures? Lilly told me that he made out like a financial bandit e.g. maxing out captains pay before going into DROP, etc.

Even those who are not employed by the agency are now intimately familiar with Knight's ineptitude, thanks to the media constantly reporting all this crap.

That's not a surprise! The media definitely keeps printing "truthful dirt" which makes Knight ultimately appear to be incompetenant and unable to steer the agency in the right direction. It's cluster after management cluster.