Florida Law Makers Take Aim At Busting Unions

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They are going after all of us, and now they are trying to play the unions off of each other.

Stand strong and fight these nasty republicans, they have become no better then the democrats.

Sorry, they already did a do-it-yourself union busting here.

Sorry, they already did a do-it-yourself union busting here.

We sure did. We did exactly what the Sheriff & Chief wanted and we placed great trust in them & the office, thinking that they all would surely honor the promises made to the people that trusted them. My my how low things have gone since that fateful vote went through. What a humongous mistake was made. One would have to be deaf & blind not to see the negative impact this has had on the entire office. It is darn near impossible to find anybody at the office that doesn't think Morale has sunk to records lows. There are now so few opportunities to go anywhere within the office, unless maybe you are a Swat member. For those that are good in other areas, there are no openings for them to transfer into. The office also used to put emphasis on seniority & experience went asking people to transfer to other areas. Now, it is all done behind closed doors and the only ones guarateed a spot are Swat guys. in the end, the extreme lack of fair based transfers has resulted in deputies getting very heavily burned out and in need of a change. Then when the vets in these groups see the 2 & 3 year deps getting most of the transfers, it totally destroys any motivation thats left. The way things are now being done, this category of very discouraged deputies is growing larger by the minute. It has been continually stated that things are out of balance within the office right now and yet none of the higher ups want to take the time to address the issues. When some of these deps try to seek out the problems holding them back and attempt to meet with certain members of the command staff, they immediately get discouraged at the seemingly new "closed door policies" in place. In the end, this all leads to most of the veteran deps and recently many newer deps just counting their days or looking for a way out of this non-leo friendly sheriffs office.

Geez sounds like you need to try out for SWAT, on second thought don't bother

The problem with allowing unions the right to collectively bargain for government employee is an incestuous relationship between the public sector unions and the people they’re negotiating with. People who work for the government, and earn their living off the taxpayers dime, have direct access during negotiations to the very people they help to put in office and can hold over their heads the promise of campaign contributions, or the threat that those contributions will be cutoff and given to another candidate. The incentives for the politicians are clear; give in to the union demands and reap the benefits of union contribution and essentially free union “volunteer” labor at election time, or at any time that it might be convenient to sage a protest. The one party that doesn’t have any representation during this process is the taxpayer, and their concerns are largely pushed to the side. The politicians have no problem giving away money that is not theirs in exchange for political favors from the unions in the future. The tax payers are the ones who end up holding the bag with no representation for them during union contract negotiations. This is why the whole idea and process of government workers being aloud to collectively bargain is a corrupt practice and must be stopped.

Yeeppper huckle****!!!! Unions are the major problem in politics. You stooopid hick. guess u don't mind billions of taxpayer dollars going to pharmaceutical companies for research. And when the new drug(s) is approved by the FDA, the profits go to the private stockholders, not back to the taxpayers. Guess you think King Scott is smart rejecting 2.4 billions dollars cause the moeny will go back to the taxpayer. Just remember you will still pay the same rate of tax and the money is headed to NY or CA. Sorry to bring you down. Go back to your fantasy sand box.

The problem with allowing unions the right to collectively bargain for government employee is an incestuous relationship between the public sector unions and the people they’re negotiating with. People who work for the government, and earn their living off the taxpayers dime, have direct access during negotiations to the very people they help to put in office and can hold over their heads the promise of campaign contributions, or the threat that those contributions will be cutoff and given to another candidate. The incentives for the politicians are clear; give in to the union demands and reap the benefits of union contribution and essentially free union “volunteer” labor at election time, or at any time that it might be convenient to sage a protest. The one party that doesn’t have any representation during this process is the taxpayer, and their concerns are largely pushed to the side. The politicians have no problem giving away money that is not theirs in exchange for political favors from the unions in the future. The tax payers are the ones who end up holding the bag with no representation for them during union contract negotiations. This is why the whole idea and process of government workers being aloud to collectively bargain is a corrupt practice and must be stopped.

Yeeppper huckle****!!!! Unions are the major problem in politics. You stooopid hick. guess u don't mind billions of taxpayer dollars going to pharmaceutical companies for research. And when the new drug(s) is approved by the FDA, the profits go to the private stockholders, not back to the taxpayers. Guess you think King Scott is smart rejecting 2.4 billions dollars cause the moeny will go back to the taxpayer. Just remember you will still pay the same rate of tax and the money is headed to NY or CA. Sorry to bring you down. Go back to your fantasy sand box.

Where did you get the idea that taxpayer money goes for drug company research? The companies finance the research and that is the justification for having named brand drugs being granted a patent and for the patented drugs costing more than an equivalent generic drug, which cannot be offered until after the patent expires.

The return on the patented drugs isn't all profit; it is a return of the money the company invested in the research.

The taxpayer did not spend money on the research and is not entitled to a return.

And.......... why did you throw in this irrelevant issue in response to a well reasoned discussion of why public union negotiations with public officials they helped elect is inappropriate?

Oh, right............... to change the subject from the truth.

:snicker:

The problem with allowing unions the right to collectively bargain for government employee is an incestuous relationship between the public sector unions and the people they’re negotiating with. People who work for the government, and earn their living off the taxpayers dime, have direct access during negotiations to the very people they help to put in office and can hold over their heads the promise of campaign contributions, or the threat that those contributions will be cutoff and given to another candidate. The incentives for the politicians are clear; give in to the union demands and reap the benefits of union contribution and essentially free union “volunteer” labor at election time, or at any time that it might be convenient to sage a protest. The one party that doesn’t have any representation during this process is the taxpayer, and their concerns are largely pushed to the side. The politicians have no problem giving away money that is not theirs in exchange for political favors from the unions in the future. The tax payers are the ones who end up holding the bag with no representation for them during union contract negotiations. This is why the whole idea and process of government workers being aloud to collectively bargain is a corrupt practice and must be stopped.

LOL, you really should try your hand as a stand up comic. Public employees are far making out like bandits on the tax payers dime. Here in Florida public sector workers have gone years without any pay raises even during the boom times when those in the private sector were making money hand over fist the public sector employees had to fight for any scrap they could get from the politicians and were told time and time again that even in the good times there just was not any money for the public sector workers.

The problem with allowing unions the right to collectively bargain for government employee is an incestuous relationship between the public sector unions and the people they’re negotiating with. People who work for the government, and earn their living off the taxpayers dime, have direct access during negotiations to the very people they help to put in office and can hold over their heads the promise of campaign contributions, or the threat that those contributions will be cutoff and given to another candidate. The incentives for the politicians are clear; give in to the union demands and reap the benefits of union contribution and essentially free union “volunteer” labor at election time, or at any time that it might be convenient to sage a protest. The one party that doesn’t have any representation during this process is the taxpayer, and their concerns are largely pushed to the side. The politicians have no problem giving away money that is not theirs in exchange for political favors from the unions in the future. The tax payers are the ones who end up holding the bag with no representation for them during union contract negotiations. This is why the whole idea and process of government workers being aloud to collectively bargain is a corrupt practice and must be stopped.

LOL, you really should try your hand as a stand up comic. Public employees are far making out like bandits on the tax payers dime. Here in Florida public sector workers have gone years without any pay raises even during the boom times when those in the private sector were making money hand over fist the public sector employees had to fight for any scrap they could get from the politicians and were told time and time again that even in the good times there just was not any money for the public sector workers.

Your assertions are nonsense.

Provide some hard statistics of specific years when the private sector employees were making money "hand over fist" in "boom times" while the public sector workers went without ANY pay raises.

Maybe you haven't noticed that there haven't been any boom times in recent years for anyone. Maybe you haven't noticed that unemployment in the private sector has risen to double digits while public sector employees enjoyed greater job security.

You are so wrapped up in yourself you have lost touch with what is happening in the real world.

Quit playing the politics of envy and be glad you have a job and job security. Maybe you haven't noticed that Hillsborough County has started firing civilians as a part of a Reduction In Force.

Stop whining..............

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The problem with allowing unions the right to collectively bargain for government employee is an incestuous relationship between the public sector unions and the people they’re negotiating with. People who work for the government, and earn their living off the taxpayers dime, have direct access during negotiations to the very people they help to put in office and can hold over their heads the promise of campaign contributions, or the threat that those contributions will be cutoff and given to another candidate. The incentives for the politicians are clear; give in to the union demands and reap the benefits of union contribution and essentially free union “volunteer” labor at election time, or at any time that it might be convenient to sage a protest. The one party that doesn’t have any representation during this process is the taxpayer, and their concerns are largely pushed to the side. The politicians have no problem giving away money that is not theirs in exchange for political favors from the unions in the future. The tax payers are the ones who end up holding the bag with no representation for them during union contract negotiations. This is why the whole idea and process of government workers being aloud to collectively bargain is a corrupt practice and must be stopped.

LOL, you really should try your hand as a stand up comic. Public employees are far making out like bandits on the tax payers dime. Here in Florida public sector workers have gone years without any pay raises even during the boom times when those in the private sector were making money hand over fist the public sector employees had to fight for any scrap they could get from the politicians and were told time and time again that even in the good times there just was not any money for the public sector workers.

Your assertions are nonsense.

Provide some hard statistics of specific years when the private sector employees were making money "hand over fist" in "boom times" while the public sector workers went without ANY pay raises.

Maybe you haven't noticed that there haven't been any boom times in recent years for anyone. Maybe you haven't noticed that unemployment in the private sector has risen to double digits while public sector employees enjoyed greater job security.

You are so wrapped up in yourself you have lost touch with what is happening in the real world.

Quit playing the politics of envy and be glad you have a job and job security. Maybe you haven't noticed that Hillsborough County has started firing civilians as a part of a Reduction In Force.

Stop whining..............

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