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When a supervisor tells you to turn around and drive the other direction, that is to protect everyone along with the agency from liability. Dont want to hear it? Then when you come on the air hyperventilating that the car wont stop, also state that you have disengaged so nobody has to tell you to do so. You will prevent a supervisor from having to embarass you (as you say) and will demonstrate that you are calm, cool, and collected under stress, and knowledgable about policy.

If having a supervisor tell you to disehgage embarasses you, then you might be hypersensitive and a bit immature.

We have a policy that requires us to turn around and run away from criminals. Street deputies here are little more than armed data entry clerks.

When a supervisor tells you to turn around and drive the other direction, that is to protect everyone along with the agency from liability. Dont want to hear it? Then when you come on the air hyperventilating that the car wont stop, also state that you have disengaged so nobody has to tell you to do so. You will prevent a supervisor from having to embarass you (as you say) and will demonstrate that you are calm, cool, and collected under stress, and knowledgable about policy.

If having a supervisor tell you to disehgage embarasses you, then you might be hypersensitive and a bit immature.

You must have missed the part in the post where it said that the deputy did do everything right, but before he could even get a word in otherwise on the radio, every supervisor in the district was pissing themselves and over reacting. It made it sound as if the deputy had just committed a felony and not the idiot that was driving off into the sunset to commit more crimes. What is being said is that it has gotten out of hand and deputies are literally afraid to do their jobs. The growing number of rookies on the street think that all they are allowed & supposed to do is answer the radio and go only where the computer tells them. Unless you worked the street back when deputies were motivated and encouraged to fight crime head on, you would not understand how pathetic things have become. All the deputies (with the exception of a few old school types) have become 99.5 % reactive to crime and have never been taught or encouraged to do proactive enforcement. You have deputies that basically do nothing or very little and think they should be selected for places like SCU & Canine. This all begins when they are being trained by FTO's that have less then 5 yrs, some less then 3 yrs experience and were no barn burners when they worked the street. What makes it worse is that the office has treated it's veteran deputies like sh%t over the past 5 yrs and none of them want to be FTO's. The inexperience on the street, especially on night shift, is very easy to see. It doesn't help when they are not allowed or encouraged to be proactive, not that there is always much time for it anyways with the shortage of deputies.

When a supervisor tells you to turn around and drive the other direction, that is to protect everyone along with the agency from liability. Dont want to hear it? Then when you come on the air hyperventilating that the car wont stop, also state that you have disengaged so nobody has to tell you to do so. You will prevent a supervisor from having to embarass you (as you say) and will demonstrate that you are calm, cool, and collected under stress, and knowledgable about policy.

If having a supervisor tell you to disehgage embarasses you, then you might be hypersensitive and a bit immature.

You must have missed the part in the post where it said that the deputy did do everything right, but before he could even get a word in otherwise on the radio, every supervisor in the district was pissing themselves and over reacting. It made it sound as if the deputy had just committed a felony and not the idiot that was driving off into the sunset to commit more crimes. What is being said is that it has gotten out of hand and deputies are literally afraid to do their jobs. The growing number of rookies on the street think that all they are allowed & supposed to do is answer the radio and go only where the computer tells them. Unless you worked the street back when deputies were motivated and encouraged to fight crime head on, you would not understand how pathetic things have become. All the deputies (with the exception of a few old school types) have become 99.5 % reactive to crime and have never been taught or encouraged to do proactive enforcement. You have deputies that basically do nothing or very little and think they should be selected for places like SCU & Canine. This all begins when they are being trained by FTO's that have less then 5 yrs, some less then 3 yrs experience and were no barn burners when they worked the street. What makes it worse is that the office has treated it's veteran deputies like sh%t over the past 5 yrs and none of them want to be FTO's. The inexperience on the street, especially on night shift, is very easy to see. It doesn't help when they are not allowed or encouraged to be proactive, not that there is always much time for it anyways with the shortage of deputies.

Your problem will soon be answered. Since nobody with any time on wants to step up and be an FTO save a few committed vets, a current study underway will probably lead to some systemic changes in the way we cultivate and staff our FTO squads. I will bet you money when the changes happen a great deal of malcontents will want to sign up and work for the new version. However, alas since you have not bothered to get off your duff thus far and volunteer you will not have the experience to even compete for selection. So when the squads are staffed by specialty team members and other "golden ones" as you say you will again come on here and type and gripe.

If you want to play then get in the game. We have to beg experienced people right now to be FTOs and still they turn us down. So guess what, we look for those who are willing and able. They may still be a tad green or even a lot so but at least they are willing to helmet up and take the field while so many would rather armchair quarterback from their lazyboy. Don't forget that Field Training is teaching a recruit how to be a regular qualified deputy, not a supercop. FTO is about training to a minimum standard. It is not advanced training but a required minimum. That being the case the FTOs simply have to be knowledgeable of the basics of the job and that is all. I would love to have supercops step up to the plate. I will shake your hand and escort you myself to the Captain and Major so we can get you the FTO pin and training course. I want you to train. Alas, I will probably left standing alone waiting as you will not show because you would rather complain than helmet up to make the agency a better place. If you say "well I tried but they rejected me"...ahhh then you have another problem and issue to deal with and that is a separate conversation. Otherwise you are welcome to come help us make this a better agency by improving our training...get in the game.

[Average Joe]

This is something that everyone has got to get used to. The Sheriff has been in office now for 6 years. We are now just seeing the first of the employees he chose to be deputies eligible for promotion. Now who do you think he would rather approve for transfers, promotions or any other name you want to call it? Those hired in by Sheriff Heinrich? Sheriff Henderson? No, what you are seeing now is the Office being reshaped for the future after David is gone with those that he hired, not someone else.

Guess i need to turn the stripes in AJ, I got hired by Henderson and promoted twice by Gee.

[Average Joe]

Guess i need to turn the stripes in AJ, I got hired by Henderson and promoted twice by Gee.

You help much on the campaign? When was the last promotion? The newbies are growing up and will soon be by passing everyone up the chain.

[quote=Get in the Game]

When a supervisor tells you to turn around and drive the other direction, that is to protect everyone along with the agency from liability. Dont want to hear it? Then when you come on the air hyperventilating that the car wont stop, also state that you have disengaged so nobody has to tell you to do so. You will prevent a supervisor from having to embarass you (as you say) and will demonstrate that you are calm, cool, and collected under stress, and knowledgable about policy.

If having a supervisor tell you to disehgage embarasses you, then you might be hypersensitive and a bit immature.

You must have missed the part in the post where it said that the deputy did do everything right, but before he could even get a word in otherwise on the radio, every supervisor in the district was pissing themselves and over reacting. It made it sound as if the deputy had just committed a felony and not the idiot that was driving off into the sunset to commit more crimes. What is being said is that it has gotten out of hand and deputies are literally afraid to do their jobs. The growing number of rookies on the street think that all they are allowed & supposed to do is answer the radio and go only where the computer tells them. Unless you worked the street back when deputies were motivated and encouraged to fight crime head on, you would not understand how pathetic things have become. All the deputies (with the exception of a few old school types) have become 99.5 % reactive to crime and have never been taught or encouraged to do proactive enforcement. You have deputies that basically do nothing or very little and think they should be selected for places like SCU & Canine. This all begins when they are being trained by FTO's that have less then 5 yrs, some less then 3 yrs experience and were no barn burners when they worked the street. What makes it worse is that the office has treated it's veteran deputies like sh%t over the past 5 yrs and none of them want to be FTO's. The inexperience on the street, especially on night shift, is very easy to see. It doesn't help when they are not allowed or encouraged to be proactive, not that there is always much time for it anyways with the shortage of deputies.

Your problem will soon be answered. Since nobody with any time on wants to step up and be an FTO save a few committed vets, a current study underway will probably lead to some systemic changes in the way we cultivate and staff our FTO squads. I will bet you money when the changes happen a great deal of malcontents will want to sign up and work for the new version. However, alas since you have not bothered to get off your duff thus far and volunteer you will not have the experience to even compete for selection. So when the squads are staffed by specialty team members and other "golden ones" as you say you will again come on here and type and gripe.

If you want to play then get in the game. We have to beg experienced people right now to be FTOs and still they turn us down. So guess what, we look for those who are willing and able. They may still be a tad green or even a lot so but at least they are willing to helmet up and take the field while so many would rather armchair quarterback from their lazyboy. Don't forget that Field Training is teaching a recruit how to be a regular qualified deputy, not a supercop. FTO is about training to a minimum standard. It is not advanced training but a required minimum. That being the case the FTOs simply have to be knowledgeable of the basics of the job and that is all. I would love to have supercops step up to the plate. I will shake your hand and escort you myself to the Captain and Major so we can get you the FTO pin and training course. I want you to train. Alas, I will probably left standing alone waiting as you will not show because you would rather complain than helmet up to make the agency a better place. If you say "well I tried but they rejected me"...ahhh then you have another problem and issue to deal with and that is a separate conversation. Otherwise you are welcome to come help us make this a better agency by improving our training...get in the game.[/quote:1rogp4y9]


You make some good points and I will not deny that. There are a large group of veteran deputies that I keep in touch with and they all feel the same way. If it were a case of only a few vet deputies that had bad attitudes about it.........then different story, but it is almost every single veteran deputy left at the office that feels they have not been treated fairly by this administration and that seniority means absolutely nothing. When these same vet deputies regularly get passed over for transfer or promotion, or are told that all the experience they have as leo's and many with both leo & military experience is GOOD FOR NOTHING unless they have college degrees.....it's BS. You have alot of vet deps that were busy serving their country in the military for many years, earning much more valuable experience then someone with just a college degree, yet this administration regularly refuses to grandfather these vet deps in on anything, because none of the current upper command staff ever served in the military, but sure are booksmart! Then you have many of these vet deps that have some serious injuries incurred over the years in this line of work and yet they are supposed to run this new ridiculous challenge course at the same pace as a 23 year old and receive no breaks due to their injuries. We didn't have tasers years ago and the job was much more hands on and physical then it is today. These vet deps should receive a break on some of these requirements and be grandfathered in! It's a shame that if you get really hurt at this job now, or were hurt seriously in the past, the office could care less about you. They show this time & time again whenever anything involves vet deputies, yet you think we should just put all this betrayal behind us and volunteer to be FTO's? I'll tell you this much...I have given more to this office then any one person should have to give, yet I don't have a college degree and due to injury can't pass the current challenge course at this time. So despite giving a ton to this office and working my tail off for years actively & aggressively fighting crime....I'm considered a bad apple or shall we say damaged goods. Is this right? I'm not alone, as there are others in the same sinking boat. I hope more vets do come forward and volunteer to be FTO's...I'm just a little too disgusted right now to be one of them.

Well rumor has it that one of the senior detectives did get hurt Monday running the "Challenge". Due to the injury he was not able to finnish. While driving back to the Office he had to call his Sgt due to the unjury getting worse. He ended up driving himself to the doctor's. Doctor said he was going to need bed rest for about 2 weeks. All the detective heard from the Office was that he did not finnish the "Challenge" and was going to be transffered back to patrol becasue of the failure to finnish.

He is now in the hospital with severe damage to his leg. Has had to have an operation. From what I hear he has not seen nor heard from one supervisor.

Was he a fat slob?