2012?

Now............... In response to the post by “WONDERING”, you know too much about EOC, COMM CENTER etc to not be in the game. You’re not fooling anyone. So let’s begin.

Insecure people yell the loudest. Are you insecure?

Dear Guest 2012,
You seem to be assuming too much where I am "not fooling anyone". Hernando County has plenty of intelligent people who are not "in the game".

I don't understand the "insecure people yell the loudest" thing or it being posted at least four times in your response, especially when you should try and use a few more spaces in your answers. That would make it is easier for me to read (but I saw those just fine). Are you using the "insecure people" thing from my, "the empty can rattles the most" statement on page one? You could have used it.

To answer your question, no, I am not insecure. You are not bothering me at all. Please continue.

-Enema: This is a strong word, which is why I chose it. After speaking to the above mentioned demographic of the county, it’s needed. I know that an overwhelming majority of the troops feel this way as well. If you feel disrespected or you feel it is disrespectful, TOUGH! I’m not here to make friends with everyone. And yes is it leadership. It’s about transparence, accountability and calling it like you see it… Even when it hurts! The scum bag sense of entitlement you feel, because you are a brass member or supervisor is disturbing and hollow. Hence, why the admin needs an enema. I will not tolerate it.

First, your demographics of certain judges, lawyers (if true) and citizens backing you financially is interesting. It sure is easier to have them pay out that kind of cash instead of you having to get all of those petition signatures yourself. Congratulations.

Do these judges and lawyers who are apparently backing you financially fall under the 5th Judicial Circuit?

In regards to your "tough if I feel disrespected" and the "scum bag sense of entitlement I feel" statements, please see the top of this post immediately under "Dear 2012," (hint: I tried to tell you on page one that it's a leadership and maturity issue........you want to run for sheriff, right?).

-Leadership: What qualifies me? A high level of moral fiber and integrity

I can see that.

......All of these I posses, make me a leader

I asked what makes you "qualified" as a real leader. Your response while respectable if all true looks more like an explanation of what you think a leader is.

There’s one of the problems, your notion of the “Political arena”. The people of Hernando will either reelect me or not, based on my efforts and leadership.

The political arena that I speak of will be the one that will assist you DURING YOUR FIRST TERM (if elected) to do the greatest good for our COMMUNITY and the agency as a whole.

It's apparent to me that you have no experience at the highest levels to include the business world. With all due respect, you don't see the whole picture because you have not been there.

-Senior management in the private sector: It has everything to do the measure of your effectiveness and have everything to do with this board, as it is a part of me and what I bring to the table.

Do you remember my examples on page one and then my question,........."do you see where I'm coming from?".

It's apparent that you don't.

I oversee hiring/firing, managing a multi-million budget, all of the HR function, payroll, talent management, support / logistics, billing and accounts receivable and the IT section.

Again, I would think that given your "business experience" that this would be better written unless you work for a very small company.

Everyone reports to me and I manage numerous employees, spread out across 4 states. I report to the CEO and the company board on the daily events and strategic movement of the company.

How do "numerous employees, spread out across 4 states" report to you and why do you have to report daily?

You should be trusted to do the job and maybe months should go by without you having to check in because the job is getting done (an occasional hello in passing is acceptable but not daily check ins).

You, sir/mam sound like you want to go out and kick a$$ in the streets and nothing else (your cool club). Should I be concerned?

True measure: This is not the only venue I am reaching out too, but one and a tool to put my feelers out. I really don’t need it to make sense to you “WONDERING”. Thanks for the feed back though.

What happened to "I appreciate the responses, both good and bad. It gives me a true metric of feeling and thoughts out there about 2012"?

-Team Work: This is the easiest one for me to handle.

Actually it does not appear to be.

I don't know what the agency's problems are but apparently you do....

but my point is NOT YOU working with the agency BUT the agency working together. Let me explain what I meant:

I can take a class of third graders and teach them how to play kickball. I place them into two teams, I explain the rules, the positions of each player on each team, what each position does and we practice on a "real kickball field". Once they get good I assign each team a captain and an assistant captain explaining their responsibilities and making sure that everyone understands their authority when it comes to kickball. I then put a proven and trustworthy student in charge of the whole game and then I check on them periodically to make sure it's continuing to happen correctly. After I am confident that everyone can work with little or no supervision, I have reached goal one of implementing teamwork.

I’d like to implement a civilian group of people, that handles all the non criminal wrecks and found property calls in the county. They can also take low, no suspect information calls over the phone…A telephone reporting unit. These programs are much cheaper than having a Deputy respond, when properly trained collect all the necessary info and forward to CID (inactive, pending further leads) and will actually save money over a period of time and allow me reallocate resources to needed areas. This keeps Deputies available for high priority calls. There grants out there for this. We need to aggressively go after technology too. Anything that allows a Deputy to complete a through, timely and professional investigation by themselves is a must! Visibility, load balancing the work, appreciation, making the job easier, safer….. I could go on and on about team work. The moral of this is and you will hear it a lot from me, “BACK TO BASICS”.

Civilians handling non criminal wrecks? What about revenue? Will the insurance companies back this? Will they write citations? Will they be considered "officers of the court" also if contested?

What is a non criminal wreck? Is it an accident with injuries or fatalities or where someone scrapes a little paint in a private parking lot. What if the two people get into a fight before they get there? What if they begin to fight while the civilian is there?

Could you please explain................? Never mind.

I know the demographics of Hernando, the hot spots and the issues that plague the county. I have spoken to ASA’s and the PD’s and I know which areas are of concern, right down to traffic issues. I also know by talking with them, which Deputies and admin have the worst reputations, professionally.

Down to the traffic issues? I doubt you do (per my example on page one).

You state that you know which deputies and admin have the worst reputations professionally? Based on what? I asked you if you were going to go through every ones file and verify everything for yourself........apparently not.

You have one to a group of people that want someone else in there really bad (justified or not, I don't know) and it's going to turn into a good old boy thing.

-Comm Center: Are you telling me, that every Chief of a PD and Sheriff know everything about the comm center and EOC? You’re sadly mistaken. They have a pretty good idea of how it works and they surround themselves with the people that know it back and forth to advise him/her. I give my expectations, must haves and the professionals move forward supervising keeping the needs, safety and law requirements in mind. This is all under my watchful via weekly meeting and evaluation processes. Activate EOC…No and neither did not most Sheriff’s until they needed to for the first time. All the systems in place would be made aware to me, once I was in office with the people in place that know how to use it. I have other ideas about how those systems could be used in conjunction with other programs. ALS-Advanced life support / BLS-Basic life support…. Are you kidding me. I will form a committee of experts in the county to review, tweak and test our comm center EMS practices and response times. What works, what does not work and what can we do better. Calls for service are screened by the excellent people in the comm center that know what they are doing and I expect the people in place supervising are monitoring situations. I will be putting a sworn supervisor in the comm center to oversee the operation, which will be in charge. You make it sound as if Sheriff Nugent’s is working in the comm center full time, taking calls. Is he? Or does he understand the process after taking office, being briefed of its function and putting the right people in place. Your apology is not needed, because I’m sure the Sheriff and almost all Sheriff’s have the basic “First Responder certification”. These ADMIN duties are oversee and delegated to the properly trained experts in his office. Give me a break!

GIVE YOU A BREAK!!??

PROTECTION OF LIFE. Yeah, it comes with the job and medical calls are the most common and a sworn supervisor won't help in that area.

First and foremost I do not know what admin does all day. Second, I have not bad mouthed anybody in the comms center. Nor will I.

* In General:

911 was developed to be a universal number to call when help was needed. It has progressed to handle high volume calls for big cities with pros and cons for the system.

The people operating the system can only be as good as the system lets them be. However there is usually a high turn over rate for these jobs and mistakes are often made by people in training or who don't care.

Secretaries are required to type 65 WPM are the call takers/dispatchers?

No? What is it then because this is life and death.

I don't know why our lawmakers won't implement a Florida State standard for 911 systems because many around our country and state are helping to kill citizens (I know that they are different systems and nobody has the money).

Let me explain something to you Guest 2012. In my early experience from the time that the phone was ANSWERED to the time that an apparatus and ambulance were signing on with sirens in the background was no later than a minute and forty seconds. Of course this was a long time ago and the phone had "call waiting" when it was not available to the public.

Next came 911 systems in the big cities. The medical calls were still taken within one minute and then dispatched via radio or telephone at night and EMS were on the road within two minutes of the call NOT two minutes TAKING the call (see where these computers slow things down).

Tell me Guest 2012, how does Hernando's comm center work now? Ask your experts who probably only know what they have been trained in and not experienced what I have described. Now compare JUST THE MEDICAL CALLS before the change over because those are my only concerns (besides the obvious fire and priority LE calls).

Companies are promising that their 911 system is the best and they promise to be experts with credentials (and unlimited support or upgrades for 10 years)and they have big city/county customers in each state. "Trauma surgeons and emergency physicians designed this thing"..............and etc.

These things are to help "support" people take and dispatch calls.

Look.....they don't have to be a sworn LEO or a fire fighter or even an EMT-paramedic. That would cost WAY TOO MUCH to staff. Let's just get some caring descent people to work for a lot less and give them index cards or algorythms to determine that they need to send out an advanced life support ambulance for every call. We have no basic life support ambulances.........THEREFORE YOUR WASTING VALUABLE TIME.

Are things more confusing and frustrating at times?

Are medical calls being delayed?

Some "professional" standard may be two mins to take a call before toning it out but that is way too long. We are not in Los Angeles. Brain damage begins between four and six mins after breathing stops. This is why they put fire stations within four mins of any point of a populated area (with some exceptions of course).

I know of deputies in Hernando who have requested an ambulance over the radio only to have it toned out four and in one case six minutes later. I doubt they realize this at times because the don't routinely monitor Fire channels but there was nothing else going on fire/ems wise.

Other times, for these deputies, the tone out for an ambulance is within 30 seconds.

I doubt the citizens of Hernando County realize these problems regarding the medical calls but they DESERVE better.

Keep the county as one like it is now but the comms center has to be as good as it was before the changeover for medical calls. It was much better then.

While I have your ear, this is more of an observation on my part and maybe the deputies don't realize it but when a deputy needs traffic or is in an active foot chase, shots fired or pursuit, DON'T have the dispatcher press the button that emits the long tone just to give someone "traffic". Sumter County's SO has it right, their tone is short and sweet. The deputies ears will adjust to it or better yet do what Hillsborough did and maybe still does...........call 10-46 and everyone shuts up until the deputy calls 10-75.

I fear that (God forbid) one of these days, that long annoying tone is going to cost a vital communication for a deputy and things will be delayed or stopped while everyone searches in confusion.

Look back at page one where I talk about trauma patients and equipment being sent non emergency until it's too late and others waiting in the back of an ambulance for about an hour waiting for "bay flight or "aeromed".

Again, keep in mind that we lack Trauma centers (they are in Tampa) and ask your EXPERTS why our hospitals won't take a trauma patient when our medical helicopters will be delayed to stabilize them and have bayflight take them when available after real blood or colloids have been pumped and cool things only ER docs can do instead of wasting time with the poor paramedics who's biggest colloid is L/R's (a chest tube when placed correctly in an emergency room is better than a 14 guage needle in the back of an ambulance and they can crack their chest or at least where I have worked in the past they did until a trauma surgeon was available).

I believe that Florida Statutes dictate where a trauma center can be set up. We should already have one here but we don't. Talk to your experts and get us one here to share with our neighbor counties.

There is a problem here. Learn about it.


The EOC question was just seeing how much experience you had and knowing what the job completely entails...............and you don't.

-Cleaning House: A real leader recognizes faults, broken processes and people. Then adapts, overcomes and moves forward. There is no need to for the ritual of phasing people out or what you believe is a proper process. And who are you tell me or anyone else what’s proper?

I brought it to your attention because it is obvious to me that you don't have leadership qualities. This is my County too.

If Deputies and the civilian staff like what they do and where they work, that image is presented to the citizens in every way… Appearance, attitude, willingness to go the extra mile, approachability etc. Perception is reality to most folks. I have spoken to several Deputies, who are extremely talented cops. But they are miserable and it’s obvious when you talk to them. That attitude is displayed, not by conscious thought. I felt it and I wasn’t the one he was dealing with.

I disagree. They keep it inside. Just as if they just left another senseless drowning and came to my call for assistance for a person flying a kite over my front yard. It does not matter how ridiculous it gets, they keep it professional.

My business experience is extremely intense

We already went over that. I'm not fooled.

I have a college education

CEU's for LE 40 hour FTO classes don't count.

there are Sheriff’s and Admin that have degrees in nonsense, but claim a degree…Sounds really great right? Its total garbage and offers nothing to position. I would rather an experience cop that has all the applicable knowledge.

Read your next quote while keeping this in mind......

Where are not NASA, where the guys and girls that fight the bad guys in the night.

Good luck in your report writing, prosecutions, grant writing and most importantly......convincing the politicians that you need more money for the agency.

The post from “WONDERING” was cleverly written to create doubt, but most of the issues and arguments are mute.

Thanks for the compliment but it was meant to be serious. All questions are valid.

The fact of the matter is that there are Sheriff’s both past and present, that have never be a cop a day in their life! It’s an elected position and ultimately a popularity contest, which is why people campaign and spend money.

Just what I thought.......you want to be popular and hire your drinking buddies. Again, congrats on not having to get those petition signatures.

The Sheriff does not run the agency by him/her self as “WONDERING” is trying to portray. If he or she did run the agency by themselves and knew EVERYTHING, they would be a policing god and that is not the case anywhere folks. I at least have a ton of experience as a cop, as well as corporate America.

I never said the sheriff runs everything himself. I said you have to have a good working knowledge of everything..........you obviously don't.

Thanks for working the streets as a LEO, enjoy corporate America and by the way, the g in God is capitalized.

Don’t talk to me about the comm center, we have the right people for that. Talk to me about pressing issues, like budgets, meth labs etc.

Yep, I've got it.

I will be working with the other Bay area Sheriff’s to create high level information sharing and task forces to combat any all issues. Citizens, you should know that most agencies don’t like information sharing with other agencies.

Glad I could help you there (page one).

Citizens, you should know that most agencies don’t like information sharing with other agencies. The reason is simple, they want to look like the hero when something goes down and this lack of communication is a huge disservice and detriment to you. The agencies pose as if they do this, but being on these teams and on the inside for years, it is only 1/10 of what should be going on. I don’t care who gets the credit, I just want it done and bad people off the street so they are not walking around with you.

I'm getting tired.

I wish you the best in whatever you do.

Your attempt to make me go away or look not so attractive failed!

No comment..........I'm done............wait, how will you handle the CJ if..............oh, never mind.

Dear WONDERING,

I do appreciate the feedback, both good and bad. I apologize about the typos or the 2 or 3 misspelled words. I fat fingered the keys or missed it as I was going through it. I know it’s of extreme importance to be a good typist as Sheriff.

The support that is in place comes from various places and no names will be used at this time. The signatures for the petition are not a problem. I have a great supporting cast that is ready to get their hands dirty.

The values I listed of a good leader are the ones I personally possess, as mention in my post. I was not explaining what a good leader is, but who I am. You choose to look at my explanation of myself in your own way, because you’re taking this adversarial position with me. That’s ok. Like I said, your perception is your reality. When you meet me and speak to me face to face, you’re opinion will change.

I do have a high level of moral fiber and integrity. This site and post do nothing to take away from that, nor does your opinion. It does not get diminished, because I chose to stand up for myself and what’s right.

I disagree that my FIRST TERM will the opportunity for me to do the most good. Everyday should be viewed as an opportunity to get better, do better and be better. Some of the things that I put in place will take a while to be fruitful and have 100% adoption. Those results and ROI will be revealed over the course of my tenure. I have a lot of experience at the highest level of the business world, which by the way is much more cut throat than the government sector.

I never said one word about kicking anyone’s a$$. I said I would be tough on crime! I specifically said a tough, but fair and balance approach with no hidden political agenda. There is a big difference! That was a real nasty shot and clearly uncalled for, based on what I specifically wrote. I simply said that I would not bend to the criminal element or allow the media to push me around. Should you be concerned? I guess you should if you’re doing the wrong thing.

I love kickball speech, classic! Thanks…. I clearly gave some examples of changes that would bring the team closer, foster camaraderie and feelings of appreciation. It’s not only about physically working together, but changing attitudes, perceptions and breaking down walls amongst the troops. These are something’s, but I have others as well. I’m not given you my entire plan just yet.

Yes, civilians handling wrecks. Other agencies in the state already do it…FHP, Clearwater PD etc. These are wonderful programs that work and generate revenue. They are given the proper training and given the authority to write non criminal citations that are the result of accident investigations ONLY, ie “Improper backing”. They are considered Officers of the court and provide testimony if their citations area contested. Check out FHP’s and Clearwater PD’s model. The insurance company’s backing this is not a requirement. As a whole, accident investigations are non criminal, civil matters. We the Police are criminal investigators. We do accidents reports as a courtesy. Obviously if the wreck has a criminal event attached to it, then that’s different (DUI).

A non criminal wreck is any accident that has no criminal event attached to it like DUI, Hit & Run or a fatality. These types of accident have to be investigated by a sworn cop. However, all accidents that have just vehicle damage, property damage and injuries (Other fatal) can be investigated by civilians as outlined above. Based on the civilian investigators investigation of the wreck if they find fault, they can issue non criminal uniform citations. Any criminal citations will be and have to be issued by LEO’s only. These programs are already at work in the state and have been for years. Clearwater PD has been doing it for many years. Look at these programs if you’re unfamiliar.

I really do know about the issues and complaints in the county. They’re very easily researched.
I’m not mentioning any Deputies names here and putting them on Front Street with regard to their reputation. They will have the opportunity to right their wrongs and make a change. This information comes from other criminal Justice professionals. Going through employee files will be on an “On need bases”, should a situation arise or it’s needed.
There will be no good old boy system with me!

You are obviously very passionate about the comm center issues. If elected, I love to speak to you one on one and get clarity on what you seem frustrated with. Maybe changes are in order and needed. I’m all about better, faster, safer service for the citizens….and Deputies.

The EOC question remains mute. Most newly elected Chief’s and Sheriff’s need to brought up to speed on the EOC stuff in their particular county, because each one is different, have different needs and different resources available. I have a good grasp on its intension, use and the resources involved.

The CEU’s stuff is nice, but I actually have real college credits and degrees.

FYI, I don’t drink or smoke. So drinking buddies is out.

Again petition signatures, not problem.

After 15 years of being a cop in various roles, I think I have a good grasp of law enforcement and all requirements.

If I had to take over the jail and I would like too, it would be handled like every other merger, acquisition or transition. Managing change is not a problem. That is way too long to type out here. I think the jail is poorly run there and could be a whole lot more efficient, user friendly for criminal justice professionals and more professional as a whole.

Be safe.

The EOC question remains mute. Most newly elected Chief’s and Sheriff’s need to brought up to speed on the EOC stuff in their particular county, because each one is different, have different needs and different resources available. I have a good grasp on its intension, use and the resources involved.

Guest 2012,

I did not want to get into this but:

Have you ever heard of lesson's learned? Do you know what it is?

I don't think that you do..........so I will explain it in an understandable form.

It is when there is a near miss incident or an actual incident happens. Based on that type incident, an investigation is launched to determine the cause, corrective measures and precautions on how to prevent it in the future (i.e. lower outdated speed limits in certain areas).

Most things can be corrected to never happen again when applied properly.

An act of God cannot be stopped but in certain situations, things can be implemented to help diminish the negative effects.

Do you live in Hernando County?

Do you remember back in early 2007 when three tornadoes ripped through Sumter, Seminole, Lake and Volusia Counties killing 20 people?

They also caused about 70 million dollars in damage.

The first tornado was spotted by radar over Homosassa (with, I believe a confirmed touch down) heading east at 15-20 MPH.

We in Hernando County are very sorry for the losses from back then.

In REALITY, we dodged a bullet as a community. The path ran from the west coast to east in pretty much a straight line. It could have very easily been us that got hit.

True leader, Public Safety Professionals like yourself should already know to look at major situations and call meetings about what has happened.

Sumter county's (and I am not bad mouthing them) comms center seemed to be unaware of any tornado touchdowns.

I believe that FOX 13 was the only station with a ticker on the bottom of the screen stating that a tornado was spotted in Homosassa and was heading eastbound.

I listened as Sumter County got hit. Their comms center began receiving calls and that was how they found out about it (at the time, I thought that they were already aware that a tornado was coming their way). After they started getting flooded with calls, they began to realize that something was wrong. The fire department in certain areas started saying that the area looked like it got hit by a tornado (there was an actual spotting of one tornado from one of their fire stations).

Streets were blocked with trees and etc. I believe that it was the fire chief that ordered that the EOC be called and activated. Their community came together quickly with someone volunteering a school bus and citizens volunteering to do SAR very early in the morning.

* My weather radio did not go off that night until later and we share the same tower with Sumter and Citrus.

Lesson learned?

Figure it out.

1. Weather radios are only as good as you set them up AND only alert when the NWS Tower activates the tone. If the tower is down, damaged or they are too late with an alert, what is plan B?

2. This is why I mentioned on page one about using the reverse 911 calling capabilities that we have at OUR comms center to notify our residents of incoming tornado danger.

3. Everyone was sleeping when the tornadoes hit between ? 2 and 4 A.M. so no televisions were on.

4. Not everyone has (or can afford) a weather radio. Reverse 911 would be a perfect solution to the best of the comm center's ability.

5.The EOC is an AFTERMATH in most cases. It is the COMMS CENTER'S responsibility to be in tune because they ARE public safety and are the ONLY ones operating 24/7. Communications means information for the operations going in and out to include up do date weather.

6. We want something implented and we don't want miracles just a good solid effort.

7.Refer to number 1. above and then see number 5. again.

I'm not a newly elected "Chief or Sheriff" and look how much I know.

Are you understanding or are you still focused on just LE work. You seem to keep forgetting that the Hernando County Sheriff has a whole lot more responsibility on his plate.

Do you still get tunnel vision when your adrenaline is pumping?

I ask because it appears that you have it now and it would be worse in a crisis.


Off the record: Is English your second language? That would explain your typo's and you being hard headed.

Just an observation.

p.s.

I've been at the highest levels of corporate America (way above what you tried to describe) for over 15 years. I never had to answer to the presidents or owners. We would pass info as needed and say hello in passing because I did my job well. I've never heard of a "company board" but I have heard of a Board of Directors.

I began LE with a 38 special, 4" vent ribbed barrel and two speed loaders filled with 38 sp + P ammo (tech 9's and street sweepers came later).

I have worked as an EMS provider,

as a fire fighter in the fire service

and I have a military background as an NCO WITH leadership schools, involved in small unit tactics.

If only you could expand your thinking and look at the whole picture of responsibility to our community.

Of course we want our LEO's to have the best to include paychecks that will pay their bills and let them begin a savings account with no morale problems if that is the case. Some may have gone a little haywire during a pursuit a while back but that had to be addressed. They may not realize how much the insurance costs are. I would have been upset too.

Of course there should be no double standards on the moderate to big things (i.e. a recent DUI case regarding a female employee). LE should be mature and reasonable but not fearful of retaliation. They have Families and bills.

Absolutely, get rid of the bad apples..........immediately. They are the problem and are dead weight but only after you OBSERVE them for a standard period of time (this is where your "qualified leadership" comes into play. You should only go in with a handful of people at the MOST (one is the minimum).

Keep IAD at it's strictest. Make them accountable and the elite. Working public safety gets you all kinds of complaints. All investigations must not be biased (i.e. my wife is upset due to a traffic stop and I am the sheriff...........I should be able to trust my IA people enough to tell my wife that it's between them and her and be able to know that it's unbiased and stay out of it.

Of course we want violent crime down.

Of course we want non violent crime down.

Hernando County has everything. Bank robberies, murders, explosive devices (past bank robbery), gangs, illegal narcotics/grow houses, an airport, large forests, beaches, water patrols, hurricanes, tornadoes, former military sites................everything. Don't forget that you will have to work with FDLE, DEA, FBI, Customs and a few others. You must be diplomatic and a great PR person to coordinate.

I believe that the current sheriff is trying to better things in the comms center and expand on helping our community. I'm just not sure if he is aware of all of the things that I pointed out (page 1 and 2....and now this)........but if you do get elected, I will come see you and shake your hand with a congratulations.

Now that I have picked you up, dusted you off and pointed you to victory, read and absorb what I have written on page one and remember the biggest concerns that can be addressed with minimum effort now.

Open your mind and educate yourself more.

Lastly, I would have fired you in corporate America pretty quickly based on your communication skills and lack of experience. I've never seen you in the streets but most people can do a pretty good job most of the time. It's not hard to be a LEO.

You want to be sheriff, right?

Clean it from top to bottom (NOT in reverse) and going through EACH personnel file will be part of putting things in line properly, not "as needed" like you stated. Do the job right. Who knows, maybe everything is already in line and good.............

Also, I see that you are now saying that petition signatures will not be a problem for you............why did you change what you said earlier?
You said that you had the financial backing of "judges, lawyers and citizens". Did you not know what you were talking about to become an official candidate or are you exaggerating the truth?

If you change one more statement which contradicts itself, you will have committed "public board perjury". If you stated these under oath, Florida state statute states that two or more contradictions is perjury. Would that be a criminal offense or could a civilian handle that?

In closing, I am NOT in the game and again, I know a whole lot more than you. Think about that.

I am going to sign this now,

A registered voter who lives in Hernando County.

Good luck.

Dear WONDERING,

“Public Board Perjury”? LOL! That must have been a FSS back when you were on the job with your handy 38 special. I have not changed one single statement or backed away from one. You are simply twisting and chopping my comments and statements to illustrate your point. It’s convenient and I think that everyone sees that. I am well aware of all the FSS and actually, one contradictory statement under oath is or can be perjury.

The mere fact that you did not know that civilians can handle minor wrecks etc, shows your lack of LE knowledge and the application of it.

English is my first language, but I do speak Spanish and I am of Hispanic descent. I really don’t appreciate the RACIAL comment.

I am hard headed, you got it. I am relentless when I want something and I don’t lay down when someone tries to brow beat me.

You seem very knowledgeable with the comm center issues and challenges. This does not qualify you to know anything other than the issues you keep harping on, the comm center and EOC. Tornados, lions, tigers and bears…oh my! I am officially turning my cable service off and subscribing to the WONDERING WEATHER NETWORK!

I’m extremely strong with my LE knowledge and experience. I realize and understand the totality of the position and what it encompasses, meaning much more that LE responsibilities. I just don’t think you understand that I am well aware of it, because you keep beating the same drum.

I have learned to manage the adrenaline rush and remain alert to all my surroundings, just like all experienced cops. You don’t get on ERT without being 10-8 and squared away! I realize you’re trying to call me a rookie, but I have the documented career to prove you wrong. I have locked bad guys up for homicide in this state and got convictions of life in prison, without the chance of parole. Have you?

No, I don’t live in Hernando County. As I said, I’m not part of the good old boy network there. I never said I lived in the State anymore. Maybe I do……and maybe I don’t.

The Board of Directors is commonly referred to as the “Company Board”. Maybe you never heard that term during your wonderful private sector career…in the mail room.

It seems like you have had quite the many careers. Military Officer, Cop, Fire Fighter, EMS provider and now the Weather man. How about dog catcher and candle stick maker? I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m ready to put the “S” on your chest right now. I have got to meet you fine sir!

The people that back me will also speak out when the time is right. Then you’ll see, step back and realize that I’m everything I said I was. Time will tell… Faith is believing in something you can’t see.

You would have never fired me in the private sector, because I am the go to guy. The guy that gets it done and makes it happen! Just the way it is.

You don’t know squat about POLICE WORK, so don’t pat yourself on the back and tell me about what you think you know!

And in closing, I’d like to visit the comment you made, “It’s not hard to be a LEO”.

I hope that all the troops come on here and respond to your ignorant statement. They just don’t handout badges and guns. The screening process is extremely rigorous and thorough. The Academy is 6 months of intense physical and academic stress, FTO for new folks is rough, complex and detailed investigations, being a target your whole career and spending the rest of your career trying not to get killed or put in jail for the rest of your life. These are just a few issues that surround the job.

Wow, that’s not hard at all. If it was easy, everyone would do it….But they don’t!

I really think you have no respect for LEO’s. I hope the troops respond appropriately to you.

This is Guest2012……Out!

Be safe

Sounds like a couple guys have a lot of time on their hands. I hope one of them gets elected as neither must have a job now with all the time they have to play here.

This forum seems like just the place to kick off a political campaign.

There are so many intelligent blogs.

The mere fact that you did not know that civilians can handle minor wrecks etc, shows your lack of LE knowledge and the application of it.

Actually I do know that I can pass papers and split (and people do it every day without calling 911) but people call 911 when they don't know how to judge a motor vehicle accident to tell if there are injuries right off the bat. Most people can't stop driving and call out of concern. In that case, how are you going to assess more info? People are quick to dial 911 and I want that to continue. I don't agree with civilians handling non criminal wrecks. More questions will slow down the medical calls even further.

How many civilians are you going to hire and who is going to tell them to move the wrecked cars off the road because it's rush hour and then somebody realizes that a driver is "impaired" or worse, somebody was injured but nobody realized it at first. It happens all of the time.

In theory, you may be letting a whole lot more DUI's get away.

English is my first language, but I do speak Spanish and I am of Hispanic descent. I really don’t appreciate the RACIAL comment.

Right here and now you have showed me more of what kind of character you really have. We are finally down to your TRUE COLORS.

I RESENT that. My wife is from Hispanic descent.

Show me where you have written that you speak spanish and that you are of Hispanic descent.

What I wrote was:

Off the record: Is English your second language? That would explain your typo's and you being hard headed.

There was no "RACIAL comment" It's called profiling. It's a specialized LE tool.

Dumba$$.

You seem very knowledgeable with the comm center issues and challenges. This does not qualify you to know anything other than the issues you keep harping on, the comm center and EOC. Tornados, lions, tigers and bears…oh my! I am officially turning my cable service off and subscribing to the WONDERING WEATHER NETWORK!

If you opened your mind,they need to be addressed. You are the one who first told me that they were fine. The medical calls keep going out every day.......

The EOC question shows your experience level in public safety and the example of lessons learned educates you in fixing problems. Two things you lack.

If you just understood the first time, they would not have to be hammered out for you.

I’m extremely strong with my LE knowledge and experience. I realize and understand the totality of the position and what it encompasses, meaning much more that LE responsibilities. I just don’t think you understand that I am well aware of it, because you keep beating the same drum.

I pointed out legitimate items that you could not address. Being a good cop had nothing to do with it. Your responses show that you have never been on that level.

Are you running for sheriff or not?

You don’t get on ERT without being 10-8 and squared away! I realize you’re trying to call me a rookie, but I have the documented career to prove you wrong. I have locked bad guys up for homicide in this state and got convictions of life in prison, without the chance of parole. Have you?

Thousands of LEO's are ERT. Get over yourself. You have no military experience either (calling me a military officer). We support our Troops and Veterans in this community and serving your Country Honorably helps with the job your applying for.

I never called you a rookie nor have I implied anything detrimental to your LE career. What you keep missing is the level of R-E-S-P-O-N-S-A-B-I-L-I-T-Y. Answer the questions and present yourself accordingly.

I already thanked you for your service as a LEO and while I and others appreciate your hard work to get your convictions, we also understand that it is team work from the beginning to end...............just like the kickball example earlier........remember?

You don’t know squat about POLICE WORK, so don’t pat yourself on the back and tell me about what you think you know!

I'm not patting. I'm presenting and you have failed miserably.

Military Officer

I never said that.

All you have to do is look at what was written. EVERYTHING that I have said is on this board. How can you screw that up?

Do you miss clues that easy too? We don't need that kind of experience here.

I hope that all the troops come on here and respond to your ignorant statement. They just don’t handout badges and guns. The screening process is extremely rigorous and thorough. The Academy is 6 months of intense physical and academic stress, FTO for new folks is rough, complex and detailed investigations, being a target your whole career and spending the rest of your career trying not to get killed or put in jail for the rest of your life. These are just a few issues that surround the job.

No Sh!T. It's what you chose to do. No sympathies. You don't think that I have had death threats, "apparent contracts on me", angry people pouring out of houses while I'm making an arrest alone and wondering if the crap is going to blow while sitting in McDonalds while off duty with a few friends who are not LEO's and have no clue what group just walked in? Please...................lol. Most if not all cops who work where they live have to stick together and watch over their shoulder. Your always a target, sitting in your radio car doing a report or while off duty. Tell me something that I don't know.

If the screening process, academy and FTO phases were tough for you, then you don't belong here. I don't want to hear your BS.

I really think you have no respect for LEO’s. I hope the troops respond appropriately to you.

First a "RACIAL comment" and now this?

You know diplomacy and great PR skills are just what we need.

Welcome aboard!

Please thank whoever it was who typed your last message for you. They did a nice job and it was easier to read.

I'm through trying to educate you.

Be Safe.

You have nothing to offer me, except your verbal jousting and rhetoric.

I appreciate it.

Please vote for Guest21012 in 2012!

Be Safe

Your always a target, sitting in your radio car doing a report or while off duty.

psstttt....it's YOU'RE. Before you complain that the potential candidate has grammer or spelling problems, look in the mirror.
Guest 20112 don't let a suck up or a retired suck up discourage you. There are too many people out here who would gladly help get someone from outside elected.

Thanks for the support!

I will not let anyone hold me down.

Change is coming......

Be Safe

Thanks for the support!

I will not let anyone hold me down.

Change is coming......

Be Safe

You're a wise one!!
Change is needed and very welcome.