Vote sensibly '08

BECAUSE UNDER THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION, WE DID NOT EXPERIENCE CIVIL RIGHT VIOLATIONS: TORTURE, EAVE DROPPING ON PRIVATE CITIZENS WITHOUT WARRANT, HOLDING INDIVIDUALS IN CELLS INDEFINITELY WITHOUT TRIAL TO NAME A FEW. :cop:[/quote]


No, because he is trained under a Chicago neo-marxist on how to exploit the middle class to gain power by making them believe things are hopeless and giving them the ultimate lie, that he will make it all better for them. And don't dare question him or subject yourself to attack. Just wait until he gets in power....socialism, and definately the road to communism. Good reading: http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/alinsky.htm
Now he is talking about having the gov't take over individuals 401K accounts and putting them into the social security fund. Funny, Argentina just made a socialist move like that, their gov't just seized pension funds because they needed the money.

And No, protecting us by eave dropping (whatever that is) on citizens of OTHER countries, holding war prisoners by standards better than required by the geneva convention, and not serving them hot chocolate with whipped cream, has saved a lot of lives over here. God bless George Bush, a great president. Just shouldn't have let the democrats destroy the mortgage market

Subject: Change America... to Obama's Illinois culture...
Chicago body count: In six months: 292 killed (murdered) in Chicago, 221
killed in Iraq
'Leadership' in Illinois:
U.S. Sens. Barack Obama & **** Durbin,
U.S. Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr.,
Gov. Rod Blogojevich,
House leader Mike Madigan,
Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike),
Mayor Richard M. Daley (son of Mayor Richard J. Daley).....
.....all Democrats.
Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago . Of course they're all
blaming each other.
Can't blame Republican leaders... there aren't any!
* State pension fund $44 Billion in debt... worst in country.
* Cook County ( Chicago ) sales tax 10.25%... highest in country.
* Chicago school system... one of the worst in country.
This is the political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois... and,
Obama is going to 'fix' Washington with his 'Change' politics?
Is this the 'Change' we can expect from Obama... for all Americans?
Obama wants a Democrat President... a Democrat Majority in the U.S.
Senate... and a Democrat Majority in The U.S. House of Representatives... just
like Illinois.
No checks and balances.
A rubber stamp government for Democrat totalitarian socialism... taxing the
'rich', redistribution of wealth, socialized health care, increased social
entitlements, restricting energy security and independence, dependent underclass
expansion, anti-church liberation theology, expansion of abortion and gay
rights...
Can America afford this...?
'If you want to know where someone is going... look where they have been.'
Remember... a leopard does not change its spots...
GOOD POINT
You couldn't get a job at McDonalds and become district manager after 143
days of experience.
You couldn't become chief of surgery after 143 days of experience of being
a surgeon.
You couldn't get a job as a teacher and be the superintendent
after 143 days of experience.
You couldn't join the military and become a colonel after a 143 days
of experience.
You couldn't get a job as a reporter and become the nightly news
anchor after 143 days of experience.
BUT....
From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United State Senator, to
the time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory committee,
he logged 143 days of experience in the Senate. That's how many days the Senate
was actually in session and working. After 143 days of work experience, Obama
believed he was ready to be Commander In Chief, Leader
of the Free World .... 143 days.
We all have to start somewhere. The senate is a good start, but after
143 days, that's all it is - a start.
AND, strangely, a large sector of the American public is okay with this and
campaigning for him. We wouldn't accept this in our own line of work,
yet some are okay with this for the President of the United States of
America?
Come on folks, we are not voting for the next American Idol!

To Barack Hussein Obama,

The New York Times carried a story on Saturday, October 4, 2008 that
proved you had a significantly closer relationship with Bill Ayers than
what you previously admitted. While the issue of your relationship is of
concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America about it.

The Chicago Sun reported on May 8, 2008 that FBI records showed that you
had a significantly closer relationship with Tony Rezko than what you
previously admitted. In the interview, you said that you only saw Mr.
Rezko a couple of times a year. The FBI files showed that you saw him
weekly. While the issue of your relationship is of concern, the greater
concern is that you lied to America about it.

Your speech in Philadelphia on March 18, 2008 about 'race'
contradicted your statement to Anderson Cooper on March 14 when you said
that you never heard Reverend Wright make his negative statements about
white America. While your attendance at Trinity Church for 20 years is
of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America on March 14.

In your 1st debate with John McCain, you said that you never said that
you would meet with the leaders of Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, and North
Korea without 'preparations' at lower levels ... Joe Biden repeated your
words in his debate with Sarah Palin ... while the video tape from your
debate last February clearly shows that you answered 'I would' to the
question of meeting with those leaders within 12 months without 'any'
preconditions. While your judgment about meeting with enemies of the
USA without pre-conditions is of concern, the greater concern is that
you lied to America in the debate with McCain.

On July 14, 2008, you said that you always knew that the surge would
work while the video tapes of you from more than a year ago show that
you stated that the surge would not work. While your judgment about
military strategy as a potential commander in chief is of concern, the
greater concern is that you lied to America on July 14.

You now claim that your reason for voting against funding for the troops
was because the bill did not include a time line for withdrawal while
the video tapes of you from more than a year ago show that you voted
against additional funding because you wanted our troops to be removed
immediately ... not in 16 months after the 2008 election as you now
claim. While your judgment about removing our troops unilaterally in
2007 is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America
about your previous position.

You claim to have a record of working with Republicans while the record
shows that the only bill that you sponsored with a Republican was with
Chuck Lugar ... and it failed. The record shows that you vote 97% in
concert with the Democrat party and that you have the most liberal
voting record in the Senate. You joined Republicans only 13% of the time
in your votes and those 13% were only after agreement from the Democrat
party. While it is of concern that you fail to include conservatives in
your actions and that you are such a liberal, the greater concern is
that you distorted the truth.

In the primary debates of last February, 2008, you claimed to have
talked with a 'Captain' of a platoon in Afghanistan 'the other day' when
in fact you had a discussion in 2003 with a Lieutenant who had just been
deployed to Afghanistan. You lied in that debate.

In your debates last spring, you claimed to have been a 'professor of
Constitutional law' when in fact you have never been a professor of
Constitutional law. In this last debate, you were careful to say that
you 'taught a law class' and never mentioned being a 'professor of
Constitutional law.' You lied last spring.

You and Joe Biden both claimed that John McCain voted against additional
funding for our troops when the actual records show the opposite. You
distorted the truth.

You and Joe Biden claim that John McCain voted against funding for
alternate energy sources 20 times when the record shows that John McCain
specifically voted against funding for bio fuels, especially corn ...
and he was right .... corn is too expensive at producing ethanol, and
using corn to make ethanol increased the price of corn from $2 a bushel
to $6 a bushel for food. You distorted the truth.

You and Joe Biden claim that John McCain voted like both of you for a
tax increase on those making as little as $42,000 per year while the
voting record clearly shows that John McCain did not vote as you and Joe
Biden. You lied to America.

You and Joe Biden claim that John McCain voted with George W. Bush 90%
of the time when you know that Democrats also vote 90% of the time with
the President (including Joe Biden) because the vast majority of the
votes are procedural. You are one of the few who has not voted 90% of
the time with the president because you have been missing from the
Senate since the day you got elected. While your absence from your job
in the Senate is of concern, the greater concern is that you spin the
facts.

You did not take an active roll in the rescue plan. You claimed that the
Senate did not need you while the real reason that you abstained was
because of your close relationships with the executives of Fannie Mae,
Freddie Mac, Countrywide, and Acorn ... who all helped cause the
financial problems of today ... and they all made major contributions to
your campaign. While your relationship with these executives and your
protection of them for your brief 3 years in the Senate (along with
Barney Frank, Chuck Schumer, Maxine Waters, and Chris Dodd) is of
concern, the greater concern is that you are being deceitful.

You forgot to mention that you personally represented Tony Rezko and
Acorn. Tony Rezko, an Arab and close friend to you, was convicted of
fraud in Chicago real estate transactions that bilked millions of tax
dollars from the Illinois government for renovation projects that you
sponsored as a state senator ... and Acorn has been convicted of voter
fraud, real estate sub prime loan intimidation, and illegal campaign
contributions. Tony Rezko has contributed hundreds of thousands of
dollars to your political campaigns. You personally used your political
positions to steer money to both Tony Rezko and Acorn and you used Acorn
to register thousands of phony voters for Democrats and you. While your
relationships with Rezko and Acorn are of concern, the greater concern
is that you omitted important facts about your relationships with them
to America.

During your campaign, you said: 'typical white person.' 'they cling to
their guns and religion.' 'they will say that I am black.'
You played the race card. You tried to label any criticism about you as
racist. You divide America.

You claim that you will reduce taxes for 95% of America, but you forgot
to tell America that those reductions are after you remove the Bush tax
reductions. You have requested close to $1 Billion in earmarks and
several million for Acorn. Your social programs will cost America $1
Trillion per year and you claim that a reduction in military spending
($100 billion for Iraq) can pay for it. While your economic plan of
adding 30% to the size of our federal government is of concern, the
greater concern is that you are deceiving America.

The drain to America's economy by foreign supplied oil is $700 Billion
per year (5% of GDP) while the war in Iraq is $100 Billion (less than 1%
of GDP). You voted against any increases to oil exploration for the last
3 years and any expansion of nuclear facilities. Yet today, you say that
you have always been for more oil and more nuclear. You are lying to
America.

Mr. Obama, you claimed that you 'changed' your mind about public
financing for your campaign because of the money spent by Republican
PACs in 2004. The truth is that the Democrat PACs in 2004, 2006, and
2008 spent twice as much as the Republican PACs (especially George Soros
and MoveOn.org). You are lying to America.

Mr. Obama, you have done nothing to stop the actions of the teachers
union and college professors in the USA. They eliminated religion from
our history. They teach pro gay agendas and discuss sex with students as
young as first grade. They bring their personal politics into the
classrooms. They disparage conservatives. They brainwash our children.
They are in it for themselves ..... not America. Are you reluctant to
condemn their actions because teachers/professors and the NEA contribute
25% of all money donated to Democrats and none to Republicans? You are
deceiving America.

Oh Mr. Obama, Teddy Roosevelt said about a hundred years ago that we
Americans should first look at the character of our leaders before
anything else.

Your character looks horrible. While you make good speeches, motivating
speeches, your character does not match your rhetoric.
You talk the talk but do not walk the walk.

1. You lied to America. You lied many times. You distorted facts.
You parsed your answers like a lawyer.

2. You distorted the record of John McCain in your words and in your
advertisements.

3. You had associations with some very bad people for your personal
political gains and then lied about those associations.

4. You divide America about race and about class.

Now let me compare your record of lies, distortions, race bating, and
associations to John McCain: War hero. Annapolis graduate with 'Country
first.' Operational leadership experience like all 43 previously elected
presidents of the USA as a Navy Officer for 22 years. 26 years in the
Senate. Straight talk. Maverick. 54% of the time participated on bills
with Democrats. Never asked for an earmark. The only blemish on his
record is his part in the Keating 5 debacle about 25 years ago.

Mr. Obama, at Harvard Law School, you learned that the end does not
justify the means. You learned that perjury, false witness, dishonesty,
distortion of truth are never tolerated. Yet, your dishonesty is
overwhelming. Your dishonesty is tremendously greater than the
dishonesty that caused the impeachment and disbarment of Bill Clinton.
Your dishonesty is tremendously greater than the dishonesty of Scooter
Libby. You should be ashamed.

Mr. Obama, it is time for us Americans to put aside our differences on
political issues and vote against you because of your dishonest
character. It is time for all of us Americans to put aside our political
issues and vote for America first. It is time for America to vote for
honesty.

Any people who vote for you after understanding that you are dishonest
should be ashamed of themselves for making their personal political
issues more important than character. Would these same people vote for
the anti-Christ if the anti-Christ promised them riches? Would they make
a golden calf while Moses was up the mountain? Would they hire someone
for a job if that someone lied in an interview? .... of course not. So
why do some of these people justify their votes for you even though they
know you are dishonest? Why do they excuse your dishonesty? because some
of these people are frightened about the future, the economy, and their
financial security .... and you are praying on their fears with empty
promises ... and because some (especially our young people) are consumed
by your wonderful style and promises for 'change' like the Germans who
voted for Ad olf Hitler in 1932. The greed/envy by Germans in 1932 kept
them from recognizing Hitler for who he was. They loved his style. Greed
and envy are keeping many Americans from recognizing you ... your style
has camouflaged your dishonesty .... but many of us see you for who you
really are ... and we will not stop exposing who you are every day,
forever if it is necessary.

Mr. Obama, you are dishonest. Anyone who votes for you is enabling
dishonesty.

Mr. Obama, America cannot trust that you will put America first in your
decisions about the future.

Mr. Obama, you are not the 'change' that America deserves. We cannot
trust you.

Mr. Obama, You are not ready and not fit to be commander in chief.

Mr. Obama, John McCain does not have as much money as your campaign to
refute all of your false statements. And for whatever reasons, the
mainstream media will not give adequate coverage or research about your
lies, distortions, word parsing, bad associations, race bating, lack of
operational leadership experience, and general dishonest character. The
media is diverting our attention to your relationships and ignoring the
fact that you lied about those relationships. The fact that you lied is
much more important than the relationships themselves .... just like
with Bill Clinton and Richard Nixon ...
Monica Lewinski and Watergate were not nearly as bad as the fact that
those gentlemen lied about the events ... false witness ... perjury ...
your relationships and bad judgments are bad on their own ....
but your lies are even worse.

Therefore, by copy of this memo, all who read this memo are asked to
send it to everyone else in America before it is too late. We need to do
the job that the media will not do. We need to expose your dishonesty so
that every person in America understands who you really are before
election day.

Mr. Obama, in a democracy, we get what we deserve. And God help America
if we deserve you.

Michael Master;
McLean, Virginia

Part of a letter I saw, it's pretty good;

This is what we, as a nation, have brought ourselves to. These are problems that no amount of social spending will cure, and any promise to do so is a lie, because no amount of money will change people's hearts. And yet, instead of reaching deep within ourselves to find the solutions, we now whine and mewl for someone to save us.
And here he comes, Barack Obama, on a "righteous wind."

As with anyone who would be king, Obama will take our money and our property in ever-larger amounts. Our children will be saddled with debt and beholden to a bloated government that will enslave the very people it promised to help. We will be at the mercy of our enemies. And no matter how bleak or desperate our own lives becomes, the leaders in Obama's government will always thrive; such people always do. Nor is any of this is unique to Obama; it is in the nature of every king, and every government, which is why our government was originally set up to be limited, both to protect us, and to ensure our own self-reliance.

John McCain will not be a perfect President. But it is not necessary for the leader of a free, righteous, and entrepreneurial people to be perfect. I can support John McCain because he asks only that I vote for him, not that I worship him. And I will vote for John McCain on November 4th, not because he would be a better king, but because he does not claim to be one at all.

This guy is great, and he gets better and better, it is a great clip.


www.viddler.com/explore/ATLAHWorldwide/videos/27/

If you wanna see the types of people that voted Obama, watch an episode or two of 'Divorce court'. You'll have a pretty good understanding of his voter's mentality. If you can't understand after that, than you probably voted Obama.
Also, listen to hip hop music. Obama lists this as one of his hobbies (according to Sun-Sentinel). These so called "artists" lack education, have no communication skills (unless its done with an agry face and evil intentions), and refuse to speak in a manner understood by us proper English speakers. These dime a dozen s-c-u-m-b-a-g-s steal real American classics, and put their own zing to it. This hip hop just lets kids know that an education or experience is not needed to make money or their way through life in a respectable manner. Although he may appear to have the education, Obama has absolutely no experience. You Obama supporters picked a real winner.
All I can say is, just wait. You'll see.
Oh, and before all of you "he's a racist", so-called baptist preachers, anti-caucasian nay sayers write it, I consider Obama half white, my t-shirt clebrates 01-12-13, I date black women, no one in my family has EVER had a slave, I have an all white cat and a half white/black cat, and I'm both against Mccain and Obama (anti-politician really).

I find it not only humorous, but very hypocritical of our current joke of a President when he says that the use of steroids by our major league atheletes presents a bad image for kids when he himself has openly said that he has used cocaine and marijuana throughout his college years.
What has this country become?
We flood our tax dollars into countries that dislike us.
We continue to keep people in this country that hate Americans and our way of life.
We allow Politicians to work less than a third of the year for six figures.
We accept former thug gang members as idols for our children.
The fast lifestyles of hip hop is revelled by the leftist media.
And a large majority of the people who run this country have either been arrested, have charges pending, or have bankrupted businesses (117 of them twice):
36 arrested for spousal abuse
7 for fraud
19 for writing bad checks
3 have done time for assault
71 can't even get a credit card
14 have been arrested for drugs
8 for shoplifting
21 are defendants in lawsuits
AND
84 have been arrested for d.u.i./d.w.i. within the last year
I hate to break it to ya folks, but our Country has become the laughing stock of the World.

You are right, it took 8 years of Bush to achieve that.


"I hate to break it to ya folks, but our Country has become the laughing stock of the World.[/quote]

You are right, it took 8 years of Bush to achieve that.


"I hate to break it to ya folks, but our Country has become the laughing stock of the World.

[/quote]

I hate to break another piece of bad news to ya twice in one day, but our financial problems right now are not the result of one. It's the result of greed amongst the rich. Every single one of them. And it's taken years to bring us where we're at now. It's kinda like when you're the 10th car waiting for a light to change green. You see the light turn, but it takes an eternity before you start to move. Republicans, Democrats, and every other greedy politician are to blame.
75-80% of all U.S. currency is in the possession of 3-5% of the population. It's been that way for quite some time, and under both Democratic and Republican Presidents. We don't need someone bragging that they'll bring change. What we need is truth, and results.

[quote="YOU ARE RIGHT"]You are right, it took 8 years of Bush to achieve that.

DID YOU EVER HEAR OF A GUY NAMED BARNEY FRANK? PROBABLY NOT MUCH BECAUSE THE MEDIA WONT EXPOSE A DEMOCRAT. ALWAYS SEEK THE TRUTH FOR YOURSELF. HERE'S AN INTERESTING ARTICLE FROM A BUSINESS MEDIA SITE, RESEARCH AND READ MORE, THE TRUTH IS THERE WAITING. IF YOU'D RATHER NOT DO THE RESEARCH, THEN YOU REALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE TRUTH. RESEARCH IT, WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF?


MSNBC’s Chris Matthews launched several vitriolic attacks on the Republican Party on his Sept. 17, 2008, show, suggesting blame for Wall Street problems should be focused in a partisan way. However, he and other media have failed to thoroughly examine the Democratic side of the blame game.

Prominent Democrats ran Fannie Mae, the same government-sponsored enterprise (GSE) that donated campaign cash to top Democrats. And one of Fannie Mae’s main defenders in the House – Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., a recipient of more than $40,000 in campaign donations from Fannie since 1989 – was once romantically involved with a Fannie Mae executive.

Frank was and remains a stalwart defender of Fannie Mae, which is now under FBI investigation along with its sister organization Freddie Mac, American International Group Inc. (NYSE:AIG) and Lehman Brothers (NYSE:LEH) – all recently participants in government bailouts. But Frank has derailed efforts to regulate the institution, as well as denying it posed any financial risk. Frank’s office has been unresponsive to efforts by the Business & Media Institute to comment on these potential conflicts of interest.

While the relationship reportedly ended 10 years ago, Frank was serving on the House Banking Committee the entire 10 years they were together. The committee is the primary House body which along with the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) has jurisdiction over the government-sponsored enterprises.

He has served on the committee since becoming a congressman in 1981 and became the ranking Democrat on the committee in 2003. He became chairman of the committee, now called the House Financial Services Committee, in 2007.

According to an article by Kathleen Day in the Oct. 8, 2003, Washington Post, Frank opposed giving the Bush administration the right to approve or disapprove business activities that “could pose risk to the taxpayers.” He told the Post he worried the Treasury Department “would sacrifice activities that are good for consumers in the name of lowering the companies’ market risks.”

Just a month before, Frank had aggressively thwarted reform efforts by the Bush administration. He told The New York Times on Sept. 11, 2003, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac’s problems were “exaggerated,” a gross miscalculation some five years later with costs estimated to be in the hundreds of billions.

“These two entities – Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac – are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” Frank said to the Times. “The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”

Frank is ranked 16th on a list that includes both houses of Congress and fifth among his colleagues in the House. According to data from the Center for Responsive Politics’ OpenSecrets.org, political action committees financed by both Freddie and Fannie have contributed $3,017,797 to members of Congress since 1989. And according to the July 16 issue of Politico, the two entities have spent a whopping $200 million to buy influence – including not only campaign donations to members of Congress, but also presidential campaigns and lobbying efforts.

In a July 23 op-ed, Wall Street Journal Editorial Page Editor Paul Gigot put the blame for the GSEs’ collapse firmly on the members of the liberal establishment who took money from Freddie and Fannie. “Fan and Fred also couldn't prosper for as long as they have without the support of the political left... This includes Mr. Frank and Sen. Chuck Schumer (D., N.Y.) on Capitol Hill, as well as Mr. [Paul] Krugman and the Washington Post's Steven Pearlstein in the press.”

Frank was asked by CNN’s John Roberts on the Sept. 22, 2008 “American Morning” about this and his opposition to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Originally, he claimed he didn’t think the two GSEs were facing any problems when the issue first surfaced in 2003. He instead blamed the Republican-controlled Congress for their ultimate fall, failing to mention his friendly relationship with Fannie Mae and the contributions it had made to his campaign over the years.