Vote no for Randall

DDG

I know what world I live in and trust me it is not perfect. A four point restraint is hog tying your suspect. Do you know how to do that. And yes I've dealt with an unruly prisoner on several occassions. Back up didn't come from the beach. You along with everyone else just don't seem to get the picture.
OK so a deputy in town had an unruly suspect. Sounds like a everyday thing now adays. Seems like everyone wants to fight the Police. So you are telling me the only back up for this deputy was the two responding from the beach. I find that very hard to believe. So what he was trying to kick out a window. You have closer backup and also just about every deputy I know carries a Taser. Nothing wrong with a little zap to get someone under control. 100 mph to a unruly prisoner does not justify. Seriously put everything else aside. You are telling me it is ok to drive that fast for a bullshit call like that?
Also I haven't seen a training announcement for high speed driving. Can you tell me where this course is offered.
I to live by the rules of the land and Professional courtsey is upmost important to me as well. I have never written any LEO or family member a ticket.
But you are still not understanding the importance of this incident. It has nothing to do with politics or Sheriff's race or anything. It has to do with common sense.
Rule number one for every Officers out there is go home safe at the end of your shift. Speeds like that are only asking for trouble.

[flyer]

Am I reading this right? I do not work for GBPD or ESCO, but I am in LE and live in Gulf Breeze. Two deputies left the beach to assist another deputy in Pensacola. They pass through TWO different police jurisdictions (an estimated 7 miles) to assist a deputy with an unruly 10-15. They travel "triple digits (100+)" in a 35 and 45 mph zones with no lights. That is crazy! Call PPD, that’s where you’re at! I am passed by Escambia deputies in my POV all the time! The fly out to the beach and fly back; never anywhere near the speed limit. Granted...I know there are times to speed or "step it up", but you can't use this excuse every time. I'm all for agencies being professional with each other, but asking Randle to turn a "blind-eye" for something like this is pushing it! Trust me! If a deputy, running 100 mph with no light, killed my family there would be a large lawsuit against the deputy and the ECSO and if I found out that GBPD was condoning this activity, I would sue them! Hey DDG…what is the ECSO policy on driving 100 mph in a 35 mph zone?

Hey Jeff "Lord Humongous" Van Camp and his do-boy Bain "not sure what eye to look at"... Get a grip... you find one thing you THINK you can zing Randle on and you run with it. The fact is, if either of you had ANY supervisory experience whatsoever, you'd be thinking twice about slamming him. But oh, wait, neither of you 20+ year deputies has ever made any kind of rank, ever. Well, Jeff tried, but that landed him in IA for cheating. I wonder what it's like to call guys who are 15+ years younger than you, sir because they all out rank you... McNesby just promoted some guys yesterday, where were you?

The fact is two deputies were going in excess of 100mph through gulf breeze, WITHOUT any emergency equipment activated. If it was such a big emergency for them to be flying through town, why not just turn on their lights and siren? Your policy says its officer discretion, right? Well it sounds like they used poor judgment. The deputies got a slap on the hand and that's okay. Next time they'll think differently about using their emergency equipment, won't they?

Anyone with any common sense whatsoever (Jeff and Bain, you can obviously stop reading right now) would know you simply cannot go screaming through gulf breeze at 100 and 101 MPH without any kind of warning equipment activated. I don't care if it was 4am in the morning or rush hour traffic... its just a BAD idea to do it.

As number 2 guy at gulf breeze i think Randle did what he had to do with the information he had. Escambia looked at it and handled it. Case closed. You beach boys wanna get your panties in a wad, so be it. But stop being crybabies. You messed up, you got caught... Learn a lesson and move on.

DDGO.K! Respect,if your going to keep on slamming the deputies at least get your facts straight, the incident with the prisoner began on top of the three mile bridge! The deputy called for assistance and stopped on the northside of the bridge so quit making it sound as though it was all the way "in town" as you have been! And it's time to put this thing to rest, cops are supposed to look out for each other so let it go! Had it been GBPD SRSO,FHP or any other agency calling for help I grant you the deputies would have responded with just as much concern for the officer calling. Let it go!

I know what world I live in and trust me it is not perfect. A four point restraint is hog tying your suspect. Do you know how to do that. And yes I've dealt with an unruly prisoner on several occassions. Back up didn't come from the beach. You along with everyone else just don't seem to get the picture.
OK so a deputy in town had an unruly suspect. Sounds like a everyday thing now adays. Seems like everyone wants to fight the Police. So you are telling me the only back up for this deputy was the two responding from the beach. I find that very hard to believe. So what he was trying to kick out a window. You have closer backup and also just about every deputy I know carries a Taser. Nothing wrong with a little zap to get someone under control. 100 mph to a unruly prisoner does not justify. Seriously put everything else aside. You are telling me it is ok to drive that fast for a bullshit call like that?
Also I haven't seen a training announcement for high speed driving. Can you tell me where this course is offered.
I to live by the rules of the land and Professional courtsey is upmost important to me as well. I have never written any LEO or family member a ticket.
But you are still not understanding the importance of this incident. It has nothing to do with politics or Sheriff's race or anything. It has to do with common sense.
Rule number one for every Officers out there is go home safe at the end of your shift. Speeds like that are only asking for trouble.

Respect,

Obviously you aren't a member of any local law enforcement community or you would know that using a taser on a handcuffed person is a no no. Though it sounds like a good thing, politically speaking you would lose your job. Can a person in handcuffs hurt you, hell, they've killed officers. If you are a trooper you shouldn't even be on this site, it's for law enforcement.

Hey respect, the prisoner trying to kick out the windows may have been a large fellow and maybe they were on the northside of the bay bridge. guess if you would of asked instead of complained you could have assisted in resolving the problem instead of creating one.

PPD Guy,

Get a life!!!!! You are probaly still wet behind the ears. You know damn well what I meant....No shit Sherlock of course a handcuff person can hurt you....Anyone with common sense knows that. If this incident happened on the bridge then why wasn't PPD or GBPD or SRSO called as well.....Probaly because this was a bullshit story and there are trying to cover their tracks.

It doesn't really matter.....Triple digits for an unruly prisoner is no excuse. This wasn't an Officer in trouble call. The prison is secured in the back seat right? Well there is no excuse not to call someone for help. And if they stopped on top of the 3 mile bridge then the deputy is an idiot as well. So you are going to stop in the middle of the roadway because your dumb ass prisoner wants to kick out your window. Sounds to me like more prisoner transport and officer safety training needs to be conducted.
Oh by the way I'm not a trooper....
Also just wondering.......

if he was a large fellow guess he wasn't going to fit out the window and hurt anyone now was he? And the only problem is the officer did not correctly handle the situation and the two triple digits deputies did not respond correctly.

[DDG]

PPD guy is right,....

Respect- the reason that other unit are not called, is due to the FACT that we are all on different radio frequencys and cant talk to each other.... by the time you call for help to dispatch, they call the other agency and then they dispacth a unit, and there is NO COMMUNICATION.

It boils down to OFFICER SAFETY.... its really that simple. when i needed back up for a situation and i was in PPD jusidiction, my 3rd pct. units would be enroute and dipatch would notify PPD. Because of the lage time in communication it was the only SAFE thing to do.

As far as the two deputies, i agree with them, running with blue lights most of the times is more dangerous to the public. it cause more wreaks because most people FREAK out and dont know what to do,... do i pull over??? do i just stop in the middle of the road??? do i pull onto the median??? do i swerve over into the next lane????

Bottom line is , sometimes its safer to travel with no blues on.. depends on traffic conditions.. and their immediate supervisor was notified, and he gave a verbal repremand... that just wasnt good enough for someone..... so Mr. Randle called cheif smith, and let the witch hunt begin. Nothing against cheif smith, but he has never been a real cop, he has never had to run code to a call... he doesnt even know how to run code... bottom line is that, Randle should stick to Harassing law abiding citizens that pass through Gulf Breeze, and supervise his army of senor citizens that drive market police cruisers.... now that is really a progressive agency... just what Santa Rosa needs.... Next Topic Please.

There are certain GBPD officers that listen to ECSO channels cause they like to go to the beach to watch the beach deputies work their calls. I guess thinks ECSO supervisors dont know what they are doing. There are ways to check the story ( in car video, dispatch tapes. )

The deputies involved were dispatched to a fight at the Sandshaker bar. A suspect was arrested for battery for allegedly striking the victim numerous times, with a closed fist, in the head and face. As a result the victim suffered lacerations that needed medical attention. The suspect was a member of a bike gang from the Mid West and was wearing his colors at the time of his arrest. He also had a criminal history including violent offenses. Now I'm not sure what knowledge, if any, "Respect" or the officers with the Gulf Breeze police department have concerning bikers but they can be dangerous. Those of us actually experienced in real police work use due caution when dealing with these individuals.

While being transported to the county jail the suspect was able to maneuver his handcuffs from behind his back to his front. He then began kicking the window in an attempt to escape. At this time the transporting deputy called dispatch and requested assistance at the north end of the Three Mile Bridge. Let's recap for those that are mentally slower than the rest of us. Bikers can often be dangerous. The transporting deputy, and the two deputies that responded to assist him, could not be sure as to what this particular biker (suspect) was capable of. Bad things might just happen if the situation was not brought under control quickly. More often than not these bad things would be suffered by the suspect, but the deputies safety is paramount. The transporting deputy does not have a taser, pepper spray has been proven ineffective on intoxicated persons, and the only other option this deputy has is to go hands on if an escape occurs. The rapid response from the two other deputies prevented injury to the suspect or the transporting deputy.

Let's talk about the response. This incident occured on a Sunday evening at approx. 2200 hrs (That's 10 P.M. for the idiots out there that post silly crap on here.) Traffic was minimal on Hwy. 98 through the Town of Gulf Breeze and emergency (blue) lights were not activated for this reason. That, admittingly, may have been a mistake. The deputies agree that lights could have been used regardless of the traffic and have been reprimanded for not activating them. However, the responding deputies did not reach triple digit speeds (100 mph and 101 mph, respectively) until they were near the Three Mile Bridge. If you weren't there, "Respect", how would you know otherwise? Bottom line, if a deputy, or any law enforcement officer, calls for help you better be passing me or get the hell out of the way.

I would like to take this time to thank the Gulf Breeze Sgt. for his diligent enforcement of the traffic laws through his little hamlet. While others in your proffession arrest battery suspects and respond to officers needing assistance, you're more concerned with the speed in which they respond. When the traffic is minimal in the Breeze, and you're not busy writing a seat belt ticket, you're clocking fellow law enforcement officers with radar and reporting those speeds to the Asst. Chief. Do they give out newer Dodge Chargers for such acts of heroism? You're not sure but it's worth the try. This Bud's for you.

Respect, If you're not willing to put a name to your post then you're nothing more than a yellow, lilly livered coward hiding behind a computer. If you want to second guess deputies on here then nut up, put a name to your post or shut the hell up. Until then your opinion means nothing. If you've got a problem with that, you know who I am. Come talk to me.