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  1. #11
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    anyone get a chance to watch the video?

  2. #12
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    video

    I would like to see the video, I hear there is some interesting things on it.

  3. #13
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    Dash cam Video


  4. #14
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    Woah, what were you thinkin cramer? 45 second mark hes stumbling everywhere. Did you atleast ask him to buckle up before you let him go?

  5. #15
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    Pensacola Police Blunder

    and to think, I thought by the Cheif's reply they were going to take care of it......DOH

    Jeff Smith

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    WELLLL....after several days of phone tag and chasing
    down the correct City's Insurance CO. I finally found
    them, "Lexington INS Co. in Boston, MA 617-330-4062
    Susan Bard. 1/11/07 1:40 central Time I spoke with her
    and she is VERY fimiliar with the case/claim. She has
    mailed a letter to me(certified) stating that there is
    NO COVERAGE that the City has that can help me. I need
    to go after Thomas Fletcher(the drunk), yada, yada, I
    have heard it all before. The Officer has been
    punished and it was a judgement call, yada, yada.
    Thomas Fletcher has pleaded guilty and has to make
    restution(sp), My home owners has fixed the fence($500
    DED) 1 car has been fixed from INS($500 DED), My GMC
    truck has been fixed $3450 out of my POCKET, The 72
    Burb is still in my yard with no INS agreement on it
    as of yet. She says that I am left to hold the
    bag....on this one. She has gone through the policy
    and there is no coverage since it was a judgement call
    by Officer Cramer and The driver, Thomas Fletcher did
    the damage. WOW!!!! But if I find anymore info that
    may turn it in my favor, I can call her and let her
    know......RIGHT! I guess I can let CNN, FOX and Inside
    edition know its OK to go ahead with my story. "DUI
    Friendly Cities across the US" especially when the
    Cities and States tout ZERO Tolerance for DUI!

    Pass it on, THIS SUCKS!!!

    “ Welcome to Pensacola The DUI Friendly City on the
    Gulf Coast!”


    Here is the Chief of Police Reply that made me think
    they were taking care of this.....RIGHT!


    Dear Mr. Smith,
    In reference to your email below, I wanted to advise
    you I have talked
    with
    Tom Mulroy(850-435-1613) with the City of Pensacola's
    Risk Management Office and he
    said
    your claim has been forwarded to the city's insurance
    carrier.
    As you are aware, I suspended Officer Cramer for three
    weeks without
    pay and
    mandated he attend remedial training on DUI
    recognition as a result of
    this
    incident.
    You have been in contact with Lt. Randy Stull, who
    supervises our
    Professional Standards Unit, and he has supplied you
    with a copy of the
    in-car video since the defendant in this case plead
    nolo contendre to
    the DUI
    charge.
    If there is any additional information we can provide,
    please feel free
    to
    contact Lt. Stull at 850-435-1865.

    John W. Mathis
    Chief of Police
    Pensacola Police Department
    850.435.1855

  6. #16
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    Time to end the talk and sue

    You might as well bite the bullet and go ahead and file suit against the drunk for damagaing your property. He may not have a pot to hiss in at this time but who know some day he may hit the lottery and along the way evertime you learn he has something of any value you can attach it, repleve it, sell it piece by piece until he has paid you back all the damages he cused.

    You should also see if you can also sue the cops for negligence that contributed to your loss. I've heard that you cant see them for what they "dont do" but in this case you should be able to sue them for what they "did do",, allow an obviously drunken driver to damage your property. If you could get it to jury, odds are a jury would rule in your favor.

  7. #17
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    Mr. Smith, don't embarass the rest of the deparment because of Cramers actions. Sue the hell out of Cramer, the video is the best evidence. He should have been fired. Mathis is working under the direction of City Hall, they have him by the balls since he is contract. Cramers version to other officers did not even match the video, I guess he didn't think we would see it. There are officers that agree with you, but publicly humiliating our department for Cramers actions is not the way to gain our support. Go ahead with your threats with the media, but you'll just lose our support when we are embarrassed.

  8. #18
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    I agree with my fellow officer above. Cramer should be gone and he should be held liable.

  9. #19
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    PPD Blunder

    PPD Guy:


    thanks, I agree. I have calmed down. This is just amazing to me. I was a sleep and wow! You think this is a slam dunk case and find out I dont have a leg to stand on.

    Lawyers tell me I will have to put out more money(that I dont have) to file a suit that just may not go in my favor. So I will just settle with what I have and that is No one got hurt........


    Thanks all.

    Jeff Smith

  10. #20
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    Re: Pensacola Police Blunder in DUI Catch & release??

    I hope this officer has been able to recover from this incident. How has he been doing? Haven't heard. Hope he is moving forward. Be strong Officer Cramer.

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