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12-27-2007, 06:21 PM #11
anyone get a chance to watch the video?
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12-27-2007, 09:10 PM #12
video
I would like to see the video, I hear there is some interesting things on it.
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01-07-2008, 09:17 AM #13
Dash cam Video
Here is the Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkpltWW5Wfo
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01-08-2008, 04:02 AM #14
Woah, what were you thinkin cramer? 45 second mark hes stumbling everywhere. Did you atleast ask him to buckle up before you let him go?
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01-12-2008, 02:46 AM #15
Pensacola Police Blunder
and to think, I thought by the Cheif's reply they were going to take care of it......DOH
Jeff Smith
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WELLLL....after several days of phone tag and chasing
down the correct City's Insurance CO. I finally found
them, "Lexington INS Co. in Boston, MA 617-330-4062
Susan Bard. 1/11/07 1:40 central Time I spoke with her
and she is VERY fimiliar with the case/claim. She has
mailed a letter to me(certified) stating that there is
NO COVERAGE that the City has that can help me. I need
to go after Thomas Fletcher(the drunk), yada, yada, I
have heard it all before. The Officer has been
punished and it was a judgement call, yada, yada.
Thomas Fletcher has pleaded guilty and has to make
restution(sp), My home owners has fixed the fence($500
DED) 1 car has been fixed from INS($500 DED), My GMC
truck has been fixed $3450 out of my POCKET, The 72
Burb is still in my yard with no INS agreement on it
as of yet. She says that I am left to hold the
bag....on this one. She has gone through the policy
and there is no coverage since it was a judgement call
by Officer Cramer and The driver, Thomas Fletcher did
the damage. WOW!!!! But if I find anymore info that
may turn it in my favor, I can call her and let her
know......RIGHT! I guess I can let CNN, FOX and Inside
edition know its OK to go ahead with my story. "DUI
Friendly Cities across the US" especially when the
Cities and States tout ZERO Tolerance for DUI!
Pass it on, THIS SUCKS!!!
“ Welcome to Pensacola The DUI Friendly City on the
Gulf Coast!”
Here is the Chief of Police Reply that made me think
they were taking care of this.....RIGHT!
Dear Mr. Smith,
In reference to your email below, I wanted to advise
you I have talked
with
Tom Mulroy(850-435-1613) with the City of Pensacola's
Risk Management Office and he
said
your claim has been forwarded to the city's insurance
carrier.
As you are aware, I suspended Officer Cramer for three
weeks without
pay and
mandated he attend remedial training on DUI
recognition as a result of
this
incident.
You have been in contact with Lt. Randy Stull, who
supervises our
Professional Standards Unit, and he has supplied you
with a copy of the
in-car video since the defendant in this case plead
nolo contendre to
the DUI
charge.
If there is any additional information we can provide,
please feel free
to
contact Lt. Stull at 850-435-1865.
John W. Mathis
Chief of Police
Pensacola Police Department
850.435.1855
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01-12-2008, 04:13 AM #16
Time to end the talk and sue
You might as well bite the bullet and go ahead and file suit against the drunk for damagaing your property. He may not have a pot to hiss in at this time but who know some day he may hit the lottery and along the way evertime you learn he has something of any value you can attach it, repleve it, sell it piece by piece until he has paid you back all the damages he cused.
You should also see if you can also sue the cops for negligence that contributed to your loss. I've heard that you cant see them for what they "dont do" but in this case you should be able to sue them for what they "did do",, allow an obviously drunken driver to damage your property. If you could get it to jury, odds are a jury would rule in your favor.
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01-16-2008, 12:05 AM #17
Mr. Smith, don't embarass the rest of the deparment because of Cramers actions. Sue the hell out of Cramer, the video is the best evidence. He should have been fired. Mathis is working under the direction of City Hall, they have him by the balls since he is contract. Cramers version to other officers did not even match the video, I guess he didn't think we would see it. There are officers that agree with you, but publicly humiliating our department for Cramers actions is not the way to gain our support. Go ahead with your threats with the media, but you'll just lose our support when we are embarrassed.
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01-16-2008, 04:16 AM #18
I agree with my fellow officer above. Cramer should be gone and he should be held liable.
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01-31-2008, 02:50 AM #19
PPD Blunder
PPD Guy:
thanks, I agree. I have calmed down. This is just amazing to me. I was a sleep and wow! You think this is a slam dunk case and find out I dont have a leg to stand on.
Lawyers tell me I will have to put out more money(that I dont have) to file a suit that just may not go in my favor. So I will just settle with what I have and that is No one got hurt........
Thanks all.
Jeff Smith
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11-16-2008, 10:23 PM #20
Re: Pensacola Police Blunder in DUI Catch & release??
I hope this officer has been able to recover from this incident. How has he been doing? Haven't heard. Hope he is moving forward. Be strong Officer Cramer.
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